these same employers are legally able to reclaim the ma jart amount of funds intended for employee health care, thus, increasing their profits even more. the jury feels that the blatant capture of funds is at the expense of employees who are not receiving money earmarked for health care, nor are the customer who is are paying the surcharge for what they honestly believe is for employee health care. in reviewing the armorial intent of the health care program, we reminded ourselves repeatedly that this program is about providing health care for employees, not creating additional profits for businessess, the jury has no issue with restaurant eurs raising their surcharge, a significant number of restaurant owners are benefiting from the addition of surcharges which are represented to their customers as being for employee health care. this is a clear violation of public trust, despite the koe and chew legislation passed in 2011 which did not close the loophole ins the security ordinance but merely requires employers to wait two years instead of one to retain hra funds. it goes on to say that any ex

what does it mean to designate funds that were intended for the health care of employees? designate, was that identify? well, what happens to it? what is the resolution -- how does the city respond if these monies are not paid for health care and what do you mean by the benefit of employees, there's terms in there that discuss, well, it has to go to the benefit of employees, it doesn't say medical benefit of employees which is one of the points we brought up, so those were the things we felt were -- there's also another issue and that is there are part time workers that work for more than one employer and this also is a confusing and complicated issue that could be resolved, this is what we mean by eliminating the hra's and requiring the money to be deposited directly with the city under the sf option which we feel would be a better way of providing these services and delivering these services to employees in the city. i don't know to what extent that -- >> thank you, president chu. >> i have one comment, first of all, i want to echo what supervisor compos said, i want to t

of the 66 million dollars that were set aside for health care under reimbursement, under hrh, only 11 of 66 million was actually reimbursed to employees for medical expenses, that means that only 17% of the amount that was supposed to go to health care actually went to health care which is in star contract to what happens under healthy san francisco where the city's reimbursement rate is 60%. the report also shows that over half of employers using hra's actually placed some restrictions on the use of those accounts. when we first introduced the legislation, one of the things we heard from folks who were oppose today legislation was the problem is not so much, you know, the accounts themselves but simply the fact that people don't know that they exist, and we recognize that that was an issue, but we always said that that's not the only issue, that it wasn't just that workers didn't know but even workers who knew they had access to these accounts, even if they had the knowledge, they could not exercise their rights because restrictions were placed on how the money could be used, and these are some of the restrictions that were identifie

collections and expenditures for employee health benefits in 2011, effective 2012 in january as per an amendment to the schonf the amount of surcharges collected for employee health care exceeds the amount spent on employee health care tha, employer must irrevocably pay and designate that amount equal to that amount. finding number 6, partially disagree, the board of supervisors defers to the response of olse, and it is as follows, the ordinance regulates surcharges imposed on customers to cover in whole or in part the cost of the health care, it is difficult in some circumstances which of any portion of a surcharge is imposed for customers for this specific purpose, however, the olse will ensure that employers understand this provision of the ordinance for and are in compliance of it and for members of the public, we have many, many findings, departments gave us their recommendation and is we are incorporating the recommendations we see make sense. with regards to finding number 7, i would agree with that statement and incorporate the city attorney's spops to finding number 7 which states that a business commits consumer fraud if it assesses a surcharge for a stated

collections and expenditures for employee health benefits in 2011, effective 2012 in january as per an amendment to the schonf the amount of surcharges collected for employee health care exceeds the amount spent on employee health care tha, employer must irrevocably pay and designate that amount equal to that amount. finding number 6, partially disagree, the board of supervisors defers to the response of olse, and it is as

and olive garden parent darden restaurants along with sears are changing their approach to employee health care. both companies will soon give employees a fixed sum and allow them to choose their own medical coverage and insurer. >>> finally, one small town has really gone to the dogs. the police chief of vaughn, new mexico, resigned yesterday. the problem with that, vaughn's only certified police force member is now a drug sniffing german shepherd named mika. he's really scary. doesn't get all rowdy. coming up, the yanks ace dominates, a slug fest in baltimore and the tigers play top cat. plus, how to really use your head in hockey. your early morning sports headlines are straight ahead. >>> i've heard reports celebrations of the rainfall and drought to come. there's more to come. you're watching "early today." >>> good morning. if you're just waking up, this is "early today." >>> and in sports, as we mentioned earlier, the nfl announced it has reached a tentative deal with its referees. this all happened last night. for more on that and all your sports headlines, here's fred roggin. >>> good

surcharges to determine whether employees are generating [inaudible] that we did disagree with that finding, the mayor supported and signed legislation amending the health care security ordinance and looked specifically at this issue, we are going to put a fine point to in the next year's report. so, finding 11, employees with would or more employers would have two or more hra's for what constitutes medical expenses and with differing time limits, so we said partially disagree because there wasn't a partially agree answer, while there could be two or more hra's which is absolutely true, time limits are now standardized as per the 2011 amendment. finding 12, hra's may not be an allowable option in reading the requirements, partially disagree, just in that we simply don't know what the affordable care act will bring and we are watching very closely for when the rules and regulations are issued, and i think at that point as a city, we'll need to sit down and quickly address what this means fwr the health care security ordinance. finding 13, financial incentive to retain hra funds could be a motivating force for employers to access employee funds to those funds.

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or low-cost health care to residents who can't afford private health insurance and do not qualify for coverage from the state or federal government? do you agree with funding this for employees who spend less for their employees health care than what the city believes is adequate? >> yes. i think it's important that we continue in this direction. i was one of those persons who grew up -- i mean my grandmother raised me and my brothers and she worked as a maid and couldn't afford health care. and luckily we had medicare and we were able to go to the doctor and the dentist.

ways the county might make up for the shortfall is by not filling vacant positions cutting employee health-care workers share county vehicles preckwinkle will present her budget next month. still ahead the battle for key swing states as both presidential candidates set their sights on the buckeye state and the president gets a not so warm reception during his last speech at the united nations and how men's facial hair becomes the not so secret ingredient in a beer. you won't run into kenmore appliances just anywhere. only sears is celebrating the 100th anniversary of america's number one appliance brand with up to 25% off all kenmore appliances plus an extra 15% off all appliance brands with your sears card. this is worth running into. this is sears. 4g lte has the fastest speeds. so let's talk about coverage. based on this chart, who would you choose ? wow. you guys take a minute. verizon, hands down. i'm going to show you guys another chart. pretty obvious. i don't think color matters. pretty obvious. what's pretty obvious about it ? that verizon has the coverage. verizon. verizon. we're goin

reimbursement rates, he also decked olse to employ on which employers allow employees to draw down hra funds to cover health care. he asked our department specifically olse the office of small business and dph to conduct employee outreach around their rights and obligations under the health care security ordinance. and he called for a qualitative research effort to better understand employee barriers, real or perceived to accessing hra funds sparkly, that's something that we are working on doing that, i'm work -- working with many of the departments, privacy may be one that we would look at, but looking at it, i think ideally within those employers that are doing a real ri good job of drawing down and doing those reimbursements, what are the best practices and also looking at likely would be within the pool of employers that olse has investigated, what are the barrierser because olse will be doing direct files of those employees regardless, so we'll have more findings in the coming months and i will share that with the board. >> he wanted to get a sense of and members of the board wanted to work from the foundat

and they were very clear they said we feel that if you get rid of the employer deduction of employee health care premiums the employers are going to look around numb stunt thing and how to take this burden and they're just going to take all those employers into medicare obamacare whatever you call it doesn't matter what you call it it can't exist it can't sustain itself it hadn't got any cost containment in it and tell down the road and nobody would touch it down the road because the seniors would tear your head off in the medical profession in the lawyers i mean you know it's called reality for me i think that's a fair point they think they had a good reason to not sign on to this plan it was a good one for me i accept as i said that's an honest explanation that the employers will will in their panic get unstuck heavy load will go drift all their employers and it will be obamacare and bloat it they said they would just bloated further well so how does that impact your opinion of the the plan. is that is one of the elements of it is to get rid of tax expenditures or these deductions in one of th

it went into effect a lot of these big companies with a lot of workers were going to drop employee health care plans is that happening? >> what has happened in lieu of that is now instead of the employer paying 100% of your health care they've moved it to where you are responsible for 50% and they are responsible for 50%. >> rick: open enrollment, people can make a decision for themselves and families. give me the number one or two top two questions you have to ask as you are deciding what is best for . >> how is your current health look at your genetics whether or not you have big diseases within in your family, history of high blood pressure, diabetes, heart problems and then a make decision whether or not you want to use one of these two plans. >> rick: you can have your health and walk out of your house and get height -- get hit by a car if you have a deductible in the thousands you are looking at out-of-pocket expenses that would have been covered if you chose a different plan. >> true. >> rick: kyle harrington, thank you. good to see you. >> arthel: based in san diego. thanks kyle. presi

third we have agreed to continue the pension pickup of employee contribution. health care...eat forrates for singles and couples will not change. proposed a wellness program... they did not want that based on conversations today. all other unions accepted this program on sick days, we have said employees will retain unused sick day banks. offered a free short term disability program layoff/recall... proposed teachers follow students to consolidated schools if position is available... school talkedclosings, teachers who lose postions they can go in a reassigned teachers pool ... they will get preference for interviewing respect to the calendar... agreed to some modifications... going to a single calendar for the system next year instead of our 2 calendar system. we want them to become a part of that committe to design that for next year teacher evaluations... in 1st year... it will not be used for tenured tacheachers proposed a committe to analyze the outcome of the 1st year and give them the right to work on the design elemts for future years the full proposal is available to

was saying that they always looked at their their health care business as a hedge because whatever they spent on employee cost for health care would kind of come back. and it just shows how big. it was right very very horizontal multinational corporations almost an economy and to themselves absolutely yeah. i'm going on that deep note i'm going to i'm going to switch gears because this is a great story would you believe me dimitri the new movie if i told you that harvard graduates are making less out of school then graduates out of a school in south dakota here's a look. but an average harvard grad just graduate two thousand and twelve is being out earned by a graduate that's all paid almost four times less from a school because most famous state is known for mt rushmore go figure. that is a pretty good return on your investment if you went to the south dakota school of mining and technology would you be feel jilted if you graduated from harvard and were even making as much as some of the paid far less for a school and with a less prestigious degree no good this just shows you got a bunch of people are g

over half of employees, employers to 0 to 19 employees are not required to submit data to our office. in total, there was 1.2 billion dollars in health care spending on behalf of 220 thousand san francisco employees. we break that down into three general categories and these numbers were similar in percentages to what we've seen in prior years, 89% of the money goes to health insurance, 4% to have money to the city option, sort of also referred to as the healthy san francisco program x and 7% of the money went to reimbursement programs as a general category, the vast majority of that specifically to health reimbursement accounts or hra's, i think that# indicates and shows that the vast majority of employers who provide health insurance to their workers provides the vast majority to have spending are complying with the spirit and intent of the ordinance. looking just specifically at reimbursement programs as a general category, we did see the reimbursement rate increase sleekly from 2010 to 2011, that number went from 20% to 26%, and we found slightly more employers were utilizing reimbursement programs, that was a point that's been mentio

doesn't, i do look forward to further conversations in what we can do to ensure that employees have the health care they deserve. >> okay, thank you. then perhaps we could entertain a motion to file items 1 and 2 and to forward item 3 to the full board with a positive recommendation? >> i'll make that motion. er >> we can take that without objection. >> item number 4. >> item number 4 is a motion revising the priorities of the budget and analyst 2012 audit skej july. -- schedule. >> and i would like to recommend that we -- subject to public comment continue this to the next goa meeting, i think that would be appropriate because two out of the three regular members of the meeting are not here. is october 9th the next meeting? >> october 2 -- 11. >> okay, i entertain a motion to continue this to october 11? >> we have to take public comment. >> is there any public comment on item 4 at all? great, public comment is closed. >> moved to continue this item to the 11th of october. >> we can take that without objection as to item number 4. okay, item number 5. >> item number 35 is authorizing the fire depa

deductions that will be closed and we know where the big money is, charitable deductions, employee-provided health careof those, you either, hit only the rich, or you hit the middle class. >> during the great depression, we raised taxes five years in a row, it was disaster, it expended the depression. what does president obama want to do, raise taxes. take it out of the productive economy and give it to the nonproductive economy. >> the percentage of gdp has gone way up. this is the thinking that got us in the problem in the. first place. >> we got to take a break. lots more to come for our powerhouse roundtable. ♪ [ construction sounds ] ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confid

>> among other things, the health care act that he passed will help us as a business be able to afford, through tax credits to small businesses that have employees and that provide health care insurance for them, that's one of the things that would benefit our bottom line. it would allow us to offer a benefit that would be of value to our employees when we get to have employees again. and that would also save us some money. i am looking forward to the health care exchanges where as a small business, we'll be able to make purchases that are in line with the costs that very large businesses have. >> brian, you speak to so many businesses across political lines. do you feel like there is a movement towards one side or the other, or no? are small businesses voting as a bloc? >> i don't think so. i really don't. i think it's going to be largely -- not completely -- there's going to be people in the question, no question, but it's largely going to go along political lines philosophy. one thing on gene's point as well, i think it's really outstanding on the uncertainty issue. until we get a handle on the deficit and our debt, we are a debtor nation rig

base reimbursement for health care services including use of the medical reimbursement account to pay for health insurance premiums, we provide quarterly statements to employees so that they're aware of the funds that are in their account and we try to encourage them on a regular basis to use that account for health care expenditures. now, turn tog the civil grand jury's report, there were 9 requests for responses from the department of public health, 7 related to findings and two related to recommendations, the department affirmatively responded to three of those and i'll go through them. one had to do with just giving some perspective of the different participation rates of the medical reimbursement account and the health reimbursement account. we partially disagreed with the finding in part because it was based on the unbacker understanding of the dem ragpickers of both population, those with hra's and mra's and the sdpt of public health has no information with respect to the demographics of those individuals in hra's, we did however indicate as i just mentioned the range of provisions that we had in our mra's to facilitate high utilization, the second fin

we are just asking them to help us pace that health care and have morin vestment in the use of their health care and that would be $50 a month for one employee>> reporter: the union said that management has given themselves races and has paid more than $200,000 on lawyers. >>> family and friends of neil armstrong held a private funeral today for him. armstrong pass away saturday at the age of 82. he made history with his famous first steps on the moon back in 1969 but today people said he shied away from the spotlight. >> he was a reluctant hero. this was never act him. the reward that he got was from his service. >> i wish i were half the humble man that he is. he has been a role method schedule a hen for. he has been a dear friend. >> ten former astronaut as tended the funeral including john glenn, and buzz aldrin and michael collins. >> the president today ordered flags lowered for the funeral of neil armstrong. he was the first person to set foot on the moon. the c aps ule that carried him to the moon is on display at the air and space museum in washington dc and a museum official said that a lot of people who tour the museum weren't ali

department, last year nearly a third of all health-care workers in the bay area failed to get flu shots. county health officer as issued an order. >> employeesave to either get the flu vaccine, beginning november 1st, or else they need to wear a mask during the time when they're working in a patient care area. >> get the shot or where the mask, that is the order from the top doctor in the county but not everyone likes the idea. the california nurses association opposes the mandate calling it " demeaning and insulting to people's intelligence ". and they say the mask has not proven effective as a prevention method. hundreds of doses are being delivered from hospital, and no one wants to wear a mask all day. >> i have not heard anyone say that they're not going to get a flu shot this year. >> historical floozies and begins in three or four weeks and it takes two weeks for the flu vaccine to reach its full potential, which is why there's a big push on now to have everyone vaccinated. in san jose, don ford, cbs 5. >> the flu shot great for health employees varies greatly but to find out the rate for the hospital in your area go to cbs sf .com. >

health care bill passed, people defending the old system -- let me tell you something. most people have no idea about health care economics because if your employer carries you on an employeey, you do not pay the whole cost to your health care. because of the tax deductions, the employers do not pay the holocaust. -- the holocaust. -- the whole cost. here is the bottom line -- your country spends almost 80% of national income on health care. no other rich country in the world spends more than 11.8%. it is $1 trillion a year. to ensure a smaller percentage of our people in a way that does not make us healthier. if you want to compete, you should want us to spend more less the same perspective -- percentage of the rich countries that have the best health care systems. like germany, france, and others. [applause] we have good health care if you can afford it. do not misunderstand me. i am exhibit a. [applause] i have more scars on our body then dies in a fight. -- i have more scars and our body than someone who has been in a fight. i know about this. but if you look at the overall health of the american population, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that we're not spend

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. >> this is the real agenda, the real agenda by these unions, the government employee unions was to unionize health care. they only have about a million and a half health care workers unionized. but as government starts paying more and more to our health care services, they're going to start unionizing them. already ten states have unionized these independent contractors. . you'll see nurses, doctors, as you so wellpointed out, every million members is a billion dollars in dues. that's a stunning number. >> stunning. >> lou: and what union principally tends to benefit from this effort, this initiative of the-- >> the sciu, the president was a part of, organizers, ask me-- by the way, president obama is our first union labor party president. and not to impinge only the food stamp president, but he's a historic figure in many ways, but interestingly there's a lot of history coming into collision now. one of those is the right to work and the unions, the power. and at times when most people think of unions as being something of, if you will, almost a relegated to the dust bin of history, well, under 7%, un

. >> i know you are worried about your employees, why do you think the health care program is so poor? >> any bill that is 2700 pages a citizen, looking at this television program, i'm going to make an intemperate statement f a piece of legislation is 2700 pages, the public is getting screwed. nothing is that 2700 pages. >> no one can read t. >> outrageous example of bad government. if we take a break -- >> the prices are increasing for employees? >> tony, when they take a break at cnn, most likely, you will see an argument between pro-guess sive, allstate and geico how to get cheaper auto insurance or argument between vonage, at&t and verizon on cheap her cell phone service. >> yes. >> you will never see an ad how to get cheaper health care insurance because that's locked into little monopolies state by state. one of the things we got do is get health care, national -- borders taken away so we can have ads on television for private insurance that will cause the price to go down just like it does with auto insurance, like it does for your cell phone. >> did you this with your own comp