you're talking about literally the number one source of employmen for men in the united states.ut college degrees, it is far and away number one. there's going to be tricking us. emily: how could this happen? some people say driverless cars are happening soon. some say not for decades. >> this is a process. let's take driverless cars out of it. think about in general the combination of artificial intelligence and robotics. we are at the beginning of the next wave of automation. the last wave largely replaced the labor of men with strong shoulders working in ports, factories, mills, and mines. we are looking at labor being replaced is cognitive and nonroutine. people who go to work wearing white shirts and suits, that is already happening. we are going to lose upfield million jobs over the next -- a few million jobs over the next couple of years. the question is in america are we the headquarter cities for ai? do we export robots to the rest of the world? is this a source of growth here and tension elsewhere. emily: what do you think of this idea of universal basic income where e