and, actually, ben segal, my colleague from the employment and training administration, a couple weeksago organized a round table with the secretary with about 15 long-term unemployed individuals who came in and told really heartbreaking stories. and i know the long-term unemployed is a subject of ongoing conversations that we are definitely having. but i think certainly at the american job centers there are certainly programs that are there to serve or individuals -- to serve individuals at all stages of their careers whether they're in the work force or transitioning. and certainly, we are thinking hard across the government about what more we can do. if either of you want to add anything, marlena or ben. >> well -- [inaudible] you know, we've historically had a program for -- [inaudible] so that's part of it. and then, certainly, you know, through our american jobs ventures -- [inaudible] fore or closure, financial -- foreclosure -- [inaudible] >> you hearing stories about people alleging age discrimination because it's cheaper to hire people who are younger as opposed to someone wh