[laughs] >> they were encaged. and then we spent months on and off. if you find cheaper they will give you the difference or something. i remember once i was at the couch and he's gotten that said crush the pilot state of israel. [laughs] >> very sensitive moment. and then i let you in my life, i would like something in return. i said, what, and he said could you drag my to this meeting. i -- i drove him to what was basically -- i was going to say like a secret terrorist radical islam meeting, country house in birmingham. they wouldn't let us in. i got into trouble. so we had to wait in the parking lot. and then after he had training camp. he said -- he certainly said look at me with the infidel look at me, who is a jew. [laughs] >> and i said fully expected a jew thannia -- athiest. they surrounded me and one of them said -- they were treating me like rare. i remember the time the jewish -- he said, you know, britain, i think hement -- he meant me hasn't won't up to what terrorist mean. and then, you know, four years later ever since 2001 omar's peop

. >> that assertion of inequality this is not a moment where even the critic of ota benga encagement will usher in a moment. >> right. >> we are onlynl in 1906 at this moment. the very idea on the basis of proving that people looked like otasc benga -- >> right. >> on the face of things inferior to white people. >> of course while he was being exhibited in the cage, king who own it had -- owned the congo. he was given the>> congo. it is been plundered by the civilized people. >> yeah. >> who were killing -- >> for the purpose of profit and progress. >> exactly. in the name of civilization the congo were being plundered many were tortured, slaved and killed. ota benga one of the victims. >> could you describe this caption? >> yes that's ota benga. this is himhe and some of the young that were brought in the united states. they were exhibited supposedly of evidence of least civilized people on the planet. cannibals, savages none of it is true. he's the second one on my left. they said he was in this picture 21-year-old. if you believe that i have a bridge to tell you. [laughs] >> clear

i mean here we are, as working class people, arguing over how to best surveil, coerce, and encage eachher, while the financial elites and the political elites who are really, frankly, the cause of many of these vast inequalities and social problems, go completely unobserved. so, very quickly, if you're called to somewhere here in silicon valley, and you might have the impression, or your officers, that the company or that corporation would not want that camera on. are you saying that you will still do what you have to do? yes, depending on what the circumstances are our policy will dictate. if it's an enforcement-type action where the officer's initiating activity, then our policy requires us to have the camera on. but if we're going there to answer a call for service because maybe they had an internal theft or something like that, discretion then comes in at that point. if you're reporting the crime, i may not record that conversation. but if you have an individual responsible for that theft detained, and i go in to talk to that person, then i'm going to put the camera on that person

this is not a moment where even the critique of ota bengas encagement or imprisonment will usher in a reformist moment. we are only in 1906 at this moment. so, the very idea that jim crow itself could be legitimatated on the basis of proving that people who looked like an ota benga or descend from an ota benga were in fact, ipso facto, prime ma fay she, on the face of things evidently inferior. >> guest: and while ota benga was being exhibit net a cage, the belgian king leopold who owned the congo -- he was given the congo -- >> host: jo show the first slide. >> guest: he was the congo was being plundered by these civilized people. right? who were killing -- >> to the purpose of profit and progress. >> guest: exactly. and in the name of civilization, you know, the congo was being plundered. millions of congoese were being tortured, maimed, killed, and ota beginning back, one of its millions of victims, was being exhibited as a sign of savagery. >> host: could you describe this caption. >> guest: yes. that's ota benga. this is him in some of the other young congress la -- congoese who