whites were different from blacks, blacks were different from colored, they were different from endians, indians and chinese was different, it was this complicated system that pitted everybody against each other, and here nelson mandela has to come out and be a leader of all of these people, and he really went a long way down that road. he told everybody they were beautiful, it wasn't just about black pride, it was about white pride, in a country where these whites had been there for 400 years. it wasn't a signing of a constitution, you had people thinking of certain way and behaving a certain way to keep 95% of the population poor, and unable to be upwardley mobile. and he had to try to modernize this place. >> clearly those people have color understood, but when was it that other -- that white people understood that? >> the interesting thing people forget in the history of the revolution is is in the end it was a referendum, that only white people participated in, that led to the end of apartheid. that was pressure from around the world, it was sanctions. but in the end they voted the

verdict of the two man supreme court bench led by justice as they deliberated on the objections to the endianennal codal code, that had been removed by the deli high court in july 2009. they were very clear in their judgements that they were not making any judgement about gay and lesbian lifestyles or the law, as it stands in india, but it was the procedure aspect of how penal code had been removed by the delly high court. and they dealed that illegal. and what they are saying now is the decision to remove the code is not up to the high court, it is up to parliament. so the supreme court is now throwing the ball already back into parliament's side, and saying you need to debate this. is removed from the statute, which would then allow gay relationships and gay sex not to be illegal. it is a blow for gay and lesbian rights at the moment, but the bigger question for those activists and their supporters will be will this issue be debated in parliament at the moment. we have seen state elections and everybody talking about the potential gender election in 2014. perhaps the question is how high th