it is really about getting those people enenergized. there is only about 3% to 5% who are actually indendent vots. >> i would say one thing to pay attention to is we arere goi to hahave four debates. we saw a tremendous amount of volatility on opinions ababoutt the candidate between debate. if that patrn holds, that could be a major drdriver for what is ahead. >> i think the economy is e main issue that people are voting on. state unemployment rates are up in every key swing state except ohio which p preses a chahallenge for the president athis point. now adding paul ryan to the tick they do have a specific an they are running on. as much as mitt romy migight try to disistanchimself fromom that plan, it is something the obama campaign is going to be hammering on. >> all we would talk aut is policy and medicare. the reality is we wou rather see "danci with the stars." the one place with the presidential camign has been an economic stimulus is in campaign spending. they passed the $500 million mark most of that going to advertising. do t