i'm send the fbi but why the energy department? guest: looking back my have explained completely in the article. the energy department back in 1960's established that the division -- z division. laboratory studies weapon programs in foreign countries. they do the same with china and iran and over the years have developed specialties not just in nuclear but chemical bio up is as well. have expertise out there. the fbi energy have expertise. host: how many different agencies are looking in the origin of covid? guest: nine. there are 18 members of the u.s. intelligence community, the latest being space force, of the 18 a lot of them do not have expertise. it is really nine. host: how many of those nights do we know the conclusion so far? guest: the intelligence committee as a whole does not have final conclusions or assessments. anyone who tells you i know where this came from is wrong or making it up. you have four agencies who lean with low confidence towards this came from nature. you have two fbi and imagery who lean -- you have t

house subcommittee on covid-19 is holding first hearing on origins ever the virus since fbi and energy departmentonclude it emerged from the lab. >> it was elaborate cover-up. this wouldn't be good for science. >> federal reserve chairman says interest rates could go higher than previously.

energy and decarbonization technologies. that is why, today, two announcements that i want to bring to you. one, the department of energy is soft lodging, if you will, our pathways to commercial lift off. what that means, over the past few years, we've engaged businesses, many in this room, on conversation on what it's going to take four key technologies to reach commercial lift off. some of your companies contributed to those conversations. we synthesized the views alongside market analysis to lay out the technological, the commercial, the regulatory barriers holding back large-scale deployment of four key technologies to start. one, clean hydrogen, advanced nuclear, parable management, and long duration storage. as these reports -- [applause] thank you, yeah, these reports are going to make clear there is a path to lift off for these essential technologies which, of course, will lead to a generational, economic opportunity. we're going to start releasing these lift off paths next week at lift dot energy dot gov. we are eager to hear your feedback on what we got right, what we got wrong, it will be living lif

. >> the energy department reigniting the debate over the origin of covid.s it leaked from a lab in china? >> this new report suggests it did come from a lab in wuhan, china, that so-called lab leak theory. >> the fallout after that bombshell report. >> the u.s. energy department differing from other agencies. >> did the coronavirus pandemic start in a lab, is that what you believe now? >> well, dana, there is a variety of views in the intelligence community. >> the president wants to get to the bottom of this. >> does it get any clearer than that? we hope so. the energy department tates with low confidence, an intelligence term, that it came from the lab. it doesn't end there, the u.s. has all these different intelligence agencies. some people think that's a good thing, but it's certainly a frustrating thing when they all throw up different answers and we don't have any conclusion. there are, count them up, four other u.s. government intelligence agencies that disagree. china, which has been secretive through all this long denied it was a lab leak, but they

here is proposal from the energy department.said this proposal builds on 110 actions the biden-harris administration took to save the family $100 a year. the industry is pushing back on this. whirlpool, ge, lg, top three washer manufacturers say the savings in energy would be minimal and clothes might just not be all that clean. in addition, the energy department admits it will cost the companies $700 million to switch over to the new machines. we talked to head of the association of home apliance manufacturers who told us the machines will be more expensive. >> estimates of $150 per unit, our biggest concern. consumers will pay more for the washing machine and some features they desire and love will be impacted, they may be paying more for a product that is performing less well for them and has less features they are accustomed to. >> and so it goes, as i said, i thought this was pretty efficient. i use high-efficiency detergent, this is what my wife purchased. this is more expensive, they say it does more loads, not sure if it

the head of the fda was on face the nation and talked about the information from the energy department that covid-19 may have come from a lab leak in china. >> there is a likelihood that this came out of a lab we may never be able to prove it with certainty. we should start behaving like it did and start taking steps to make sure that could not happen again. there are a lot of things that happened around the labs. created sloppy conditions. they were doing high-risk research in low-level security labs. risky research. >> there are conflicting reports about whether the energy department said they had low or high confidence that it came from a lab four other agencies said covid spread by natural transmission. >>> scientists are working to find treatments for covid. a new shot is showing promise in warding off covid post hospitalizations. this time it is not a vaccine. >>> is covered continues to adapt and evolve, scientists continue to try to develop new ways to combat the virus. >> we have seen a variety of drugs that have become available, but we have also seen many of those drugs beco

i'm send the fbi but why the energy department?: looking back my have explained completely in the article. the energy department back in 1960's established that the division -- z division. laboratory studies weapon programs in foreign countries. they do the same with china and iran and over the years have developed specialties not just in nuclear but chemical bio up is as well. have expertise out there. the fbi energy have expertise. host: how many different agencies are looking in the origin of covid? guest: nine. there are 18 members of the u.s. intelligence community, the latest being space force, of the 18 a lot of them do not have expertise. it is really nine. host: how many of those nights do we know the conclusion so far? guest: the intelligence committee as a whole does not have final conclusions or assessments. anyone who tells you i know where this came from is wrong or making it up. you have four agencies who lean with low confidence towards this came from nature. you have two fbi and imagery who lean -- you have two, fb

. >>> after that energy department assessment that covid likely originated from a lab leak in china, the director of the fbi speaking about it for the first time today peter alexander is following this and, peter, fbi director christopher wray detailed the bureau's own assessment >> reporter: lester, it's a stunning new statement from the fbi director who for the first time is speaking out on camera about the fbi's assessment, saying the source of covid was a lab leak in china >> the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan. you're talking about a potential leak from a chinese government-controlled lab that killed millions of americans. >> reporter: the fbi first made that assessment with moderate confidence more than a year ago, and director wray's comments come just 24 hours after nbc news reported the energy department, whose experts run the u.s.'s national labs, also assess covid began with a chinese lab leak, though with low confidence the white house has said there is no consensus right now in th

energy departmt. that cited a classified intelligence report, this is the crucial bit "u.s. departmentthey can only reach that conclion with low confidence." the white hou says there is no consensus. >> work is still ongoing. there hasn't been a final conclusion arrived at here. not everyone in the intelligence community or across the government has a consensus view on how it started. >> u.s. government agencies have different conclusions. we are not hearing much detail on why the fbi and the u.s. energy department made those assertions. cbs news explains. >> they are not really giving clear or definitive language. the fbi director saying things like most likely a potential lab incident. department of energy says they have low confidence in misinformation. they are2-9 u.s. organizations looking into this reaching this conclusion. it is a question on this side of the ocean to figure out what happened. >> it is important to say there is no evidence this virus leaked from a lab. let's take a look at why this theory emerged. this place, wuhan's seafood and wildlife market, was at the cente

and energy department who say it likely came from the wuhan lab in china. republicans demanding declassification of all that information. some democrats want to keep it under wraps. why can't we all see it? arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders in "focus" next. (vo) if you've had thyroid eye disease for years and you go through artificial tears in the blink of an eye, it's not too late for another treatment option. to learn more visit treatted.com. that's treatt-e-d.com. all across the country, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work helping them achieve financial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. veteran homeowners: making a big car payment every month? car loans can be expensive, and the payments high. consolidate that car loan into a newday home loan and save hundreds every month. >> harris: the senate unanimously passed a bill last night requiring the decla

an issue that we should all agree on, we want to get to the bottom of how covid originated department of energy fbi now said covid 1 leaked interest wuhan lab but white house is saying that, you know -- there is no conclusive evidence pushing back on assessment saying they won't go there yet congressman, why not? >> i don't know the white house only integrity in the world trying to imply the laptop is russian diss information everyone knows it is slit has not been compromised we know o covid originated in wuhan lab this white house has spread, a narrative, that has been false so long i think starting to believer it we are getting answers for american people i don't think the department of energy would have come out admitted that covid originated in the lab had we not sent out letters to 40 individuals within our federal government that had inside knowledge what was going on in that flab wuhan bringing them in to talk to us, i think the more we pressure people the more troops come out very optimistic about the direction of our investigation. maria: this is so extraordinary. do you think joe bide

for information on the latest reports provided by the department of energy, as well as others, we have also forwarded these requests to the u. s. department of health and human services. at the moment, we do not have access to these reports or to the data that we're used and the preparation of these reports. now this information that us officials claim to have and have been using to stir up anti china hostility, which has not been seen by other countries. and it's worth noting that the f b, i said it had only moderate confidence in the conclusion. and on top of that, the department of energy said it had low confidence that there was at this point, the proof that china was responsible for the pandemic that hasn't stopped us. leaders and officials from drumming up anti join. our facility now basing is pushing back and saying that this is the united states politicizing, a world health issue to the detriment of the global community. now, u. s. media has gone into overdrive pushing anti chinese hysteria in response to the claims from the department of energy and the f. b i. china has respon

than the department of energy and they are not letting on.iden does his usual, i'm concerned there's another cover-up because they don't want relations with china to get worse so they are appeasing communist china. what you make of it? >> i agree everything you are laying out here. i read the classified report, i'm not going to get into the specifics of the report. the last year i believe it was and when you read through the report even the intelligence community, it was split on covid origins one of the things is to clear going to the report is there was not enough information available essentially to rule out lab leak which basically in my view, reading it, all pointed to a lab leak theory. everything pointing to this, we know doctor fauci lied to the senate when rand paul russian him about nih funding gain of function research through a third-party ngo or another group going on up there, it's a serious problem because joe biden, his entire first two years as president has been predicated on his disastrous covid response policies but they r

secretary of energy once again with us here and so much has changed since she was here a year both internationally and certainly at home in terms of legislation and indeed what the department of energy is reading right now so please join me in welcoming sec. jennifer granholm. thank you. a lot of people doubted their chances. today, we know that their guts, their heart, to resolve has forced russia to be on their heels. a year ago, fears abounded that putin's weaponization of energy would plunge the global economy and leave european citizen suffering in the middle of winter and today, today, the world is moving quickly to shift away from russian energy sources as they should. europe is poised to reach the spring without major outages or shortages thanks in no small part to many in this room who have been producing and exporting and working with the u.s. and with allies. the u.s. has become in this year and indispensable energy partner to our allies and the global energy powerhouse. you've ago, there was an open question as to what this conflict would actually do to energy markets, whether the resulting supply disruption would actually push countries away from clean energy.

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it comes after the energy department and the fbi both concluded the once dismissed lab leak theory is most likely what caused the pandemic. we'll speak with kentucky senator rand paul on what he hopes to learn from the declassified documents. but first, to jacqui heinrich live on the north lawn for us. now that the president has signed the bill, what comes next? >> sandra, the big question is when we might, excuse me, actually get something out of this. the director of national intelligence was also directed to declassify relevant information related to the trump and biden classified documents. we have not seen anything come of that yet. members of congress generally say they don't really have a timeline on when they might see something here and the last line of the president's statement yesterday said that if it violates somehow or jeopardizes u.s. national security it would not be released in the first place. but this is, of course, a start, especially after the department of energy sided with the fbi in their assessment that the pandemic most likely sparked from a lab leak. >> we n

biden's energy department and the head of the fbi all say the pandemic likely started from a chinese election. >> todd: one guy, dr. fauci, did not get that memo yet. >> do you think we will ever know how the pandemic originated? >> might not, we may never know, it is unfortunate, that is possibility we would never know. >> todd: that was not from 2021, that was from monday. we'll hear from joe concha. our ancestors had power, our ancestors had hope and our ancestors had ambition. k ee p i t r ight was in t of rfes. frien d s idn't know our famil" par okay, seriously. finding out this family history, these things become anchors for your soul. ♪ ♪ to all the chevy silverado owners out there. the adventurers and the doers. to everyone that works hard and plays hard. whether it's your first silverado or your tenth. thank you for making chevy silverado the #1 best-selling retail full-size pickup. >> ashley: washington, d.c. next lawmakers can be decided by noncitizens, thanks to the city council which just passed bill giving illegal immigrants and foreign diplomats the right to vote in l

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it is now good to see that the department of energy has come to the same conclusion that i did. my state department did years ago that this leak came from a laboratory in china. but other intelligence agencies say they believe also with low confidence that the pandemic began because of natural transmission from animals to humans at a market in wuhan, ohio congressman mike turner says the investigation is complicated by the fact that china has been less than helpful is no direct evidence. we don't have china admitting it. we don't have wuhan lab handing these things are. >> now today on capitol hill, lawmakers will continue to work on a bill that asked the biden administration to declassify any information linked to the origin of the pandemic. reyna. as mentioned that. but is it likely that they're going to be willing to declassify the information? well, that remains to be seen first. congress would have to actually pass this bill. and if they do, it would head to the president's desk. and at this point, it does remain unclear whether he would actually sign that. this might answer

nor energy department's classified assessments. many lawmakers want to see an invoice sent to china for wrecking the u.s. economy. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: want to bring in the republican governor out of virginia, a busy man. he lives his life in a hurry. >> thank you for having me. >> bill: we have to recognize two things. the competition is here and the consensus in washington is here. republicans and democrats participating in the hearing last night. with that being said, what should in your view be the relationship between beijing and washington. >> we first have to identify the fact that what chinese government's goal is to dominate the world and do it at the expense of the united states. we're seeing bipartisan support for that view but unfortunately the democrats the end to pull up short, right? when it gets difficult they compromise and we have to have unity on this point. even chuck schumer said it the other day. big stop number one. it's not a friendly rivalry. this is, in fact, a race to win the future of the globe a

energy department lastu week confirmed it was first reported to you on this program back in february19 most likely originated from a laboratory at lake and china not from a wet market. which, as china continues to climb. this fault fy samebi conclusion reached by the fbi. arkansasubli republican tom cotn was first to break the news on the origins of covid-19 right here on this program. >> this virus did not originate in the wuhan, epidemiologists are widely respected from china published a study in the international journal have demonstrated several oncetf the original cases did not have any contact with that food market the virus went into that food t market before it camhae out. we also know if you mouse with the food market is china's only biosafety level for super laboratory that researches humas infectiouses diseases. >> following cotton's appearance of pushback from the mainstream media to the labmia leak theorys immediat ae major newssh publications such as the "new york times" anind the "washingtn post" were quick to dismiss it. and attack senator cotton. instead of standing

todd: the house committee holding first hearing on the origins of the virus since the fbi and energy departmentcluded a lab here the house committee to divvy up more information moving forward on an information with the administration to declassify any and all information related to links between wuhan institute of virology and covid-19. dr. anthony fauci though still insisting that it could have emerged natural. >> i don't think there is a correct and verifiable answer to your question. it still remains unknown at this particular point. >> todd: senator rand paul say the claims is a cover up what fauci has known all along. >> it was an elaborate cover-up that began in january 2020. those emails between dr. collins and dr. fauci which dr. cullen said this would not be good for china are good for science. >> todd: several witnesses expected to testify with former director of the cdc. >> ashley: new york city crime and bartenders are still banding together and using a group chat to alert each other about criminals threatening customers. >> todd: one is to explain how they are taking time this cri

that was wrong, and in fact, all the intelligence agencies, including fbi and energy department haveey do not believe there was intention behind it. i think that's part of the problem that the lab leak, we are saying it could be an accidental lab leak versus animal spillover. i also think part of the issue is, of course, china has been totally wrong in not allowing independent investigations, but to this point, i really don't see what level of evidence will have to be produced in order to convince both sides of this that they are wrong. i don't know if we will ever come to a definitive answer, because people are so doug in and how they think about the origin of covid . so what i'm proposing, i just wrote a "washington post" column about this, we can think both are possible grade don't stop investigating, move forward. we need to prevent the next pandemic. he ready for next time, exactly. >> dr. wen, stay with me. i love to respond to social media in real time . i am ill- equipped on what might come in on covid, and i have the expert in you. give me something, and i can involve dr. we

the energy department said we think there is evidence on the table but we think it's a credible explanationeral agencies are divided on this there's no set agreement as to where covid-19 started but it will p.m. interesting to see how they make their arguments, what information they're looking for, are they were interested in holding the biden administration's feet to the fire and how they approach profit -- covid. host: how to republicans view kevin mccarthy now? guest: i think republicans realize they don't have another option. he was able to keep everyone together and so far things have run relatively smooth. so far no one's really great being. mccarthy as taking this strategy have bringing as many people to the table as he can. mccarthy has given each of them a collective leadership council and that's something where he brought back this counsel he major he's got these different groups there. things like the debt limit its several months don't the road that they're starting conversations now trying to get a sense of the numbers. we talk a lot about the six and the carrots mccarthy likes

calls to adoption of next generation clean energy and decarbonation technologies that's why today two announcements i want to bring to you oneo is that the departmentf energy is -- soft launching if you will. our pathways to commercial liftoff and over the past few years we've engaged businesses many in this room on conversations on what it will take for key technologies to reach commercial liftoff and some of your companies contributed to those conversations we've the views alongg side market analysis to lay out the technological the commercial, the regulatory barriers that are holding back large scale deployment of four key technologies to start one is clean hydrogen, advance nuclear carbon management, and long duration storage. and as these reports -- [applause] thank you. yeah these reports are going to make clear there's a path to liftoff for these essential technologies. which, of course, will lead to a generational economic opportunity and we're going to start releasing these liftoff tasks next week at liftoff.energy.org and eager to hear your feedback on what we've got right and wrong and these are living -- liftoffee pathways and in which

not according to the energy department.y cars on the road, that's a percentage of that, not sales. sales have been pretty good lately. if you look at january, last january, in 2022 the, it was about 4% on average. 2023, this year, 7% of the sales were evs. but, you know, real questions about the program to spur the sales of evs. dan turner, who runs the group power the future support ising u.s. energy producers, says, you know, we're spending a lot of money to sell what he said expensive electric cars to rich white people. that is not good policy. listen. >> government is trying to force this faster than the free markets are allowing, is and anytime that happens the result is always a disaster. and this is going to be another disaster, it just hasn't hit us yet. >> reporter: well, maybe it has. look at ford. this is what they lost on evs over the last three years. in 2021 they lost almost a billion collars. in 2022, $2 billion. in 2023 they say they're going to lose $3 billion. now, in fairness, folks at tesla lost a lot of

the issues the president's team has been dealing with this week the determination by his own energy departmentnd the scientists there that the covid pandemic likely began with a leak in a chinese laboratory. last night, fbi director chris wray told me in the most straightforward way of any public official so far that the bureau has reached the same conclusion. the biden administration are still not on board. white house correspondent jacqui heinrich is with the president tonight in baltimore with the latest, good evening, jacqui. >> good evening, bret. white house sources say they are not fully embracing any single agency's findings because there isn't consensus yet about origin. leaving questions unanswered about when or even if that will happen and what it will mean for china. >> with two federal agencies declaring its most likely covid originated in a wuhan lab, the white house is facing questions about why there haven't yet been consequences. >> the president is not -- this is a president that is not afraid to go to a war zone. he is not aggrade to go there when there is no military presen

then you have the department of energy saying they think it is a lab leak. they believe that both are plausible but there is not enough evidence to figure it out definitively. i think the ic pretty much concluded here that without more on the ground information, it is probably just going to be impossible to say how this began. there is only so much you can do from afar, right? analyzing the data without that kind of on the ground investigation, kaitlan. >> we know we'll hear from other officials when they testify in the next week or so. natasha, thank you. in our next half hour, john avalon is going to take a closer look at the origins of the lab leak theory, how approached previously, the way people talk about it now and what that looks like. >> look forward to that. >>> meantime, the faa is investigating a really close call, a near collision two of aircraft in boston on monday. this is in the middle of a number of alarming close calls at u.s. airports. the agency says jetblue, a flight by jetblue coming in to land when a private jet took out without cleara

it is now good to see that the department of energy has come to the same conclusion that i did. ent did years ago that this leak came from a laboratory in china. but other intelligence agencies say they believe also with low confidence that the pandemic began because of natural transmission from animals to humans at a market in wuhan, ohio congressman mike turner says the investigation is complicated by the fact that china has been less than helpful is no direct evidence. we don't have china admitting it. we don't have wuhan lab handing these things are. >> now today on capitol hill, lawmakers will continue to work on a bill that if passed as the biden administration to declassify any information linked to the origin of the pandemic. live in washington, alexandra limon, thank you, alex. >> time now 6.23. we're going to take a break. but coming up on the kron, 4 morning news, the department of transportation now making it a little bit easier for families to sit together on flights with the help of a new tool >> the department of justice is expected to file a lawsuit against jetblu

gerry: it seemed like there was a possibility with the energy department fbi we know some intelligence officials include kobe did leak from a lot of other to be sure subscribe to the bat from a market or the market origin for the covid spread but widely knowledged a lab leak is highly possible so we can learn from congressional investigations why u.s. officials chose to accept the chinese communist party's account why were so many people in the media willing to cover for them this week the main journalist circle journalist to denounce the lab leak idea tried to excuse themselves of all kinds of explanations. >> trump unleashed the xenophobia he stopped allowing chinese people to come to the country he kept on saying china, china. >> alaska before biden said anything about this, he made it about asian people. if you know who had not started with that had he said this might not come out of the lab it probably would've been listen to a lot differently. >> this makes no sense at all everyone agrees the virus started in china what is more racist the idea that it slipped out of a world-class

and energy department's assessment that the american people want the truth.ve always wanted the truth and we are not going to be bullied anymore by fauci's smug arrogance telling us to all shut up. >> julie: op-eds why did scientists deceive everyone about covid-19 and the fact that they knew what they know and have known it for three years when all of us were wondering especially those who lost loved ones how did this happen? they knew how it happened and deceived the american public. why believe him now? >> that's it. legitimacy of government and how we trust the government. if we do or don't. something much larger going on. he has another book coming out. they have legacies they are worried about. individuals are getting filthy rich. very powerful and they like that. the way to maintain that requires, i think, this kind of misleading of the american public. how you get to become a multi-millionaire in public service is always been a question for the american people as our lives have declined. their lives continue to move up. we want fairness and transparen

reach that assessment, but with moderate confidence back in 2021 following that report from the energy department, the chinese ministry of foreign affairs issued a response saying relevant sides should, quote, stop hyping up the lab leak theory and stop smearing china now fbi director chris wray is speaking out about this theory for the first time in an interview with fox news. >> as you note, brett, the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan. i should add that our work related to this continues. i will just make the observation that the chinese government seems to me has been doing its best to try to thwart and obfuscate the work here, the work that we're doing, the work that our u.s. government and close foreign partners are doing. >> reporter: the war of words between the two super powers has only continued since the report was issued u.s. ambassador to china, nick has burns said china must be more honest about the origins of covid. beijing issued its own response saying that the u.s. was politicizing the issu

. >> bret: the energy department determined with low confidence the virus likely spread from a mishapnd dr. fauci have not changed their view on the origins. >> their work is still ongoing. there hasn't been a final conclusion arrived at here. >> we may not ever know. that's unfortunate but that's the possibility that we might not ever know. >> bret: the energy department joins the fbi in supporting the lab leak theory. fbi director christopher wray spoke for the first time about that assessment on "special report." >> the fbi has for quite some time now assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident in wuhan. let me step back for a second. you know, the fbi has folks, agents, professionals, analysts, virvirologists, microbiologists focus on the dangers focus on things like novel viruses like covid and the concerns that in the wrong hands some bad guys, hostile nation state, a terrorist, a criminal, the threats that those could pose. so here you are talking about a potential leak from a chinese government controlled lab that killed millions of ameri

, i believe was it the energy department?s with the fbi on the origins. here's what joe biden said. [inaudible conversations] pete: or what he didn't say. rachel: wow. what disdain for information that our citizens deserve after a million of them were killed by a virus that so clearly leaked out of that lab are because, you know, they're going to release this, hopefully, all this classified information. we'll find out who knew. pretty obvious fauci kid. but the has so many implications for how we cohealth in our country and who we decide to have relations with and china policy that he just thinks it's not even worthy of thinking about. will: wonder where you get that nickname, walk-away joe. that image right there. we had senator mike braun on earlier, he said it's not only about holding china accountable, but people, institutions here in the united states as well. >> i think not only what happens to china, but also if any of our officials were involved with it, it's got a lot of consequences. i think it'll just verify what w