tonight richard engel reports on america's complicated role in these conflicts. >> reporter: a deadlyight with the taliban in afghanistan, a stability operation in iraq, and a support mission in libya. american troops are at war on three fronts, 150,000 in harm's way. especially in the longest war in u.s. history, afghanistan. last thursday, eight americans were killed while on a foot patrol in kandahar in a roadside bomb attack. >> we love the troops. why do we love the troops because we don't have to be the troops. we have a small number of americans defending 310 million people. it's easy to forget them. but we shouldn't forget them. today's a good day to remember that we have troops in combat. >> reporter: u.s. troops are supposed to start gradually drawing down from afghanistan this july. >> the united states is conducting an operation that killed osama bin laden. >> reporter: after the killing of osama bin laden, there's increasing pressure to leave more quickly. in iraq, the combat mission ended last year, but nearly 50,000 american troops remain as advisers who are supposed to

richard engel in libya for us tonight, thank you. >>> next up here tonight, medical news.otentially life threatening problem for children much bigger than anyone thought. >>> important health news. a new study to be published in the journal pediatrics will show a big increase in the number of children who suffer from food allergies. some of them can be life threatening, including severe peanut allergies. nbc's kerry sanders has more. >> reporter: in the shadows of colorado's pike's peak, 6-year-old lily martin learns math with her first grade classmates. but lily is different from her friends. she carries a life saving syringe with her everywhere she goes. what is that? >> epi pen. >> epinephrine to protect lily from peanuts. she among an estimated 5.9 million children who have food allergies. what could happen if you had a peanut? >> i would swell up. >> reporter: her throat would swell up and possibly choke her to death, says her doctor. like 9-year-old nathan walters from spokane who died after a peanut exposure while on a field trip. or 14-year-old anna of arizona, in

richard engel is nbc's chief foreign correspondent, and he's in benghazi.s unlikely apparently to us and john brennan that you could have the compound within 4,000 feet of a top pakistani military school and they wouldn't know it. what is your experience in pakistan inform you about that concept? >> reporter: first it was amazing to say that was the same phrase they used when they got saddam hussein. i can't imagine that parallel is a coins den. the pakistani government controls the situation on the ground very tightly. it knows who comes and goes and who lives where, particularly in military communities this goes a community like westpoint, a top training facility. you can imagine if a wanted terrorist were living in the united states and suddenly he were discovered living in westpoint next to a bunch of retired generals, i think the u.s. would be very sheepish in trying to explain how that happened. >> there was a story i think i heard from you you living in pakistan and the government checking on you. can you tell us about that? >> reporter: i rented a h

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. >> nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in benghazi tonight.where is this conflict headed? >> reporter: well, there seems to be a growing consensus that gadhafi himself is a target. and the question is, will nato continue this process of targeting gadhafi directly or at least his compound? many people here feel that gadhafi should be targeted. he's been taking a series of steps to escalate this conflict, particularly over the last several days. he's mined the port of misratah, making it very difficult for humanitarian ships to bring aid to that besieged city. he's also encouraged his own supporters in tripoli to carry out those vigilante attacks against the embassies of the uk and italy. also the compound of the united nations. the u.n. said today it is evacuating its foreign staff, and people here believe that as gadhafi gets more and more desperate, he will become more dangerous. and they hope that gadhafi will be targeted directly. >> and if he is being targeted directly and this is, in effect, regime change, a tentative regime change we're

richard engel, who again, has spent way too much of his life covering the dual wars overseas. richard, thanks. >>> when we come back here tonight, we'll turn a little bit toward news in this country. the awful choice forced by flooding in the midwest, to blow up a levee to save a town while causing another flood to take place. >>> we continue to cover the flooding in the midwest. it remains a huge story. and there's been a drama playing out there. officials were faced with the choice of blowing up a levee intentionally to flood some farmland to save the town of cairo, illinois from floodwaters. weather channel meteorologist mike seidel is there. he's in nearby metropolis, illinois. hey, mike. >> reporter: hey, brian. good evening. yes, the situation got worse today as finally the corps of engineers did what they said they were going to do. they blew a two-mile hole in a levee on the missouri side of the mississippi river. this to ease the pressure on the levee on the ohio river side and save the town of cairo, illinois. and this decision went all the way to the supreme court o

richard engel in benghazi, libya for us tonight. richard, thanks. >>> let's turn now to politics in this country. and the question to the republican field, who wants the job of president? yes, it's early yet, but consider politics and our recent history. at this stage of the game there are usually a lot more big names already in the race. our chief white house correspondent, chuck todd, with us tonight with more on this story. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. so much for this idea that presidential elections are neverending campaigns. the summer is approaching, and the republican field is still taking shape. one of the few announced candidates for president was out campaigning and raising money today. >> wonderful to be back with all of you in the lone star state. >> reporter: but despite a sputtering economy and the incumbent's tepid job ratings, republicans aren't stampeding to join the president on the trail. take mitt romney, the candidate many view as the front-runner for 2012. by this time four years ago

. >>> and we want to go back as well to our chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, who's learning tonight that bin laden's death is raising some hopes in the arab world for perhaps improved relations. and richard, this is an interesting bit of reporting. >> reporter: it certainly is. and hopeful, one would think. osama bin laden's presence, his figure has dominated the way so many americans think about the middle east for the past decade. the people in this region know that. they don't like it. and now they're happy he's gone. osama bin laden died hated by most muslims he claimed he was defending with terrorism. >> i said to mr. obama, thank you. thank you so much. >> reporter: in cairo today there's hope the u.s. military will stop occupying muslim countries now that bin laden is dead. >> part of me was relieved. i don't know why i was relieved, but maybe i thought that that would soon lead to the end of the war in afghanistan and iraq, which would bring a little more -- you know, a little bit more stability to the region. >> reporter: even the muslim brotherhood, the world's big

joining us now live from benghazi in labia is nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard, thanks very much for joining us. i appreciate it. >> reporter: it's my pleasure, of course. it's a very windy evening. so, you'll excuse the wind, but it is an incredible development that has been happening. i think you're right. it has always been about pakistan. and yet u.s. troops went and fought in iraq. and that in it be end of the day had nothing to do with bringing osama bin laden to justice. >> richard, what do you think happens next with pakistan in people are describing pakistan as having explaining to do as being embarrassed, as having finally been called out for the lies they have perhaps knowingly been telling all of these years about osama bin laden. we can't look into a crystal ball about what happens next. based on your understanding of the players here, what do you think happens next between us and that country? >> reporter: i think in the short-term the u.s. military wants to maintain as civil relations as possible with pakistan. of course, osama bin laden i

representative elliott engel from new york.ank you. >>> the agency will brief the media at noon eastern. evan coleman is an nbc news terrorism analyst. he joins us now. good morning to you, evan. >> good morning. >> we've heard from nbc's jim miklaszewski earlier that bin laden may not have left this compound for maybe like a five-year period. what does that say? >> well, number one, it tells us that there are not that many places where bin laden could go that he would be safe, clearly even in pakistan bin laden had to be careful that he wasn't seen by the wrong people. he was sequestered in this one location that apparently al qaeda viewed as being beyond the reach of the united states. it was nowhere near where the drones were flying over. in al qaeda's estimation he was perfectly safe chilling out at this one location. but you also have to wonder how pless and that the was for bin laden and his family to be stuck, literally inside your own prison, even a quote, unquote, mansion, it doesn't sound terribly fun or scintillating

richard engel, benghazi. >>> ayman al zawahiri is not a shoo-in. the official said za what hiry is not popular within the organization and is not charismatic and has a reputation for arrogance. >>> senate majority leader harry reid has dislocated his right shoulder. harry reid is 71 years old now. he was taking a break outside while it was still wet. he twowent to lean on a car and slipped. he was taken to a hospital where he was treated and released. he was later seen wearing a sling. an aide says reid received a bump the side of a golf ball lo above his left eye from the fall, but he'll be just fine. >>> coming up, a virginia couple tell us police where y they kept their chooipt child caged in a crib. >> flooding could go food worse. >> flooding could go food worse. >> it wiwhat do we have here? oh, it's scotts naturescapes advanced mulch. advanced huh? ehh...mulch is mulch. oh, not so, pops. ordinary mulch can fade after a few months. that's mulch! naturescapes holds its color for a full year. a whole year? guaranteed. plus, it's water smart. wa

thank you, richard engel. up next, reaction from family members who lost loved ones in those 9/11 attacks. let's go back to the scene of the crime. this is "hardball" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] capri sun 100% juice, with a full serving of fruit in every pouch, is a choice you can respect. [ creaking ] other choices... launch me fellas. [ male announcer ] nope. capri sun 100% juice. >>> before speaking to the country late last night president obama called his predecessor, former president george w. bush to tell him of the news u.s. forces killed bin laden. bush released a statement congratulating president obama and calling the news a mementos achievement and a victory for america. and former vice president dick cheney generally a vocal critic of obama's foreign policy had this to say. >> it's also a good day for the administration. president obama, his national security team, acted on the intelligence when it came in and they deserve a lot of credit, too. >> good for him. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] doctors

chuck todd and richard engel are here. chuck, extraordinary tee tails, the fact this was under way, the secret was kept. and what we now is how they pursued this trail. >> reporter: well, i mean, we could -- there is -- it started seven years ago in, as far as this particular mission, though, the first tip started eight months ago, last august. and from there, and that's when they felt as if they identified this compound, identified this courier to bin laden that they believed that they were finally on the trail to where bin laden was. and then it really ramped up in the last six weeks. the president himself heading up five meetings in the last six weeks to decide on this plan of action. he had multiple plans to decide from. could have just sent over some fighter planes to bomb the complex. he decided not to do that. and instead approved this raid, which, by the way, andrea, i'm told by a number of senior officials, he was not getting unanimous advice that this was the way to go. there were a lot of officials warning him o

richard engel, who again, has spent way too much of his life covering the dual wars overseas. richard, thanks. >>> when we come back here tonight, we'll turn a little bit toward news in this country. the awful choice forced by flooding in the midwest, to blow up a levee to save a town, while causing another flood to take place. [ male announcer ] gout's root cause is high uric acid. ♪ if you have gout, high uric acid can lead to more attacks. ♪ to help reduce attacks, lower your uric acid. uloric lowers uric acid levels in adults with gout. it's not for the treatment of high uric acid without a history of gout. uloric reduces uric acid to help you reach a healthy level. [ female announcer ] don't take uloric if you are taking azathioprine, mercaptopurine, or theophylline. gout may flare when starting uloric. don't stop taking it. your doctor may give you other medicines to help prevent flares. a small number of heart attacks, strokes, and heart-related deaths were seen in studies. it's not certain uloric caused them. certain tests to check liver function may be required. tell

engel: thank you. i thank the members on t other side of the aisle if you repeat it over and over again the people will believe it. the hyde amendment already prohibits federal funds from being used f abortion. this is not about federal funds. the other thing i don't understand is my republican friends always claim that they want smaller government they don't want the government to intrude on people's lives. so here we are about to pass a measure that expands government, intrudes on people's lives and penalize small businesses and impeds them from creating jobs. i don't believe the government should be in the business of preventing people from accessing legal medical treatment. it surprises me and worries me that this congress keeps proposing legislation that diminishes the right to access health care. abortion is legal in this country. i understand how peoe feel on both sides of the aisle. it's a very personal decision. yet, republicans seem intent on interfering with a woman's right to make her own d

with me from cairo, chief foreign correspondent richard engel. and i go first to cairo, give me a sense of how you think they will react to this speech in the arab world that you know and especially cairo. >> we've been speaking to people in cairo and across the world already and the reacti has been overwhelmingly one of disappointment. people thought there would be many more spifics. that there would be a restart of the arab/israeli peace process or at least the palestinian peace process. right now there's a feeling of momentum and people have started to expect things to haen quickly. they're watchingeaders like mubarak and biali fall. therare demonstrations out in the streets and they were hoping to see the same kind of urgency coming out of the white house and they didn't see it. >> rose: and so what do you think the reaction will be with your friend benjamin netanyahu? >> well, i think there will be a great deal of dismay in israel over what he said. in particular the most... there were several issues but the most important one is his prefere

richard engel is live with us in benghazi.t is the latest you are hearing, and any confirmation about the. >> it's coming from the libyan government itself. nato is not confirming that it killed. nato is confirming it carried out an air strike over a command and control site. that is what nato is calling almost all of the targets it's striking in downtown tripoli. after this attack took place, people on the streets apparently inspired by the government, started attacking the british embassy, and that is what led the british government to take this move, quite a severe move, of expelling the libyan ambassador to the united kingdom. witnesses intropy will have reported smoke from the italian embassy. anytime this happens, and this is not the first time embassy grounds have gone under attack, the government says it cannot control the people, they're expressing their love, loyalty and dedication to moammar gadhafi, but if you listen to the speeches given by the libyan leadership, it is clear they are inciting people to go out and

richard engel is following that part of the story for us in libya. >> reporter: reaction to osama bin's death has been pouring in from world leaders. >> bin laden -- >> reporter: germany and france welcoming the news, but cautioning that this will not mark the end of international terrorism. yemen said that it hopes there will be more targeted attacks on al qaeda leaders, even the vatican weighed in saying that while christians don't welcome the death of any individual, osama bin laden used religion to create divisions and hatred among people. >> what this shows is no matter how challenging and difficult and how long it takes, people who commit these acts of terrorism, who kill deliberately, large numbers of civilians, totally innocent people and we are going to carry on until the job is done. >> reporter: but here in the middle east osama bin laden's passing has a particular significance. for the last decade sooosama bi laden has been a source of shame to the region. he's brought shame to the muslim people and brought shame to the muslim religion. many people hope that now that he's

let's go richard engel. tell us more about what you're reporting, this incredible tale a year long hunt for bin laden. >> reporter: it seems that it came down to finding a courser that many people expected that osama bin laden would be in pakistan. that he would be and i big city. a lot of people thought perhaps he was in karachi, a very large place, an urban area that's easy to hide. instead he was in this compound, a very large home for lack of a better word, about 35 miles outside of islamabad. a town that is green, leafy, has a golf course nearby. also has a military training facility. several army regiments based there. an elite part of the country, not somewhere where you would expect someone to be hiding. if anything hiding in plain sight. this clearly puts pakistan and i difficult position. people are going to ask how did pakistan not know that osama bin laden was inside this giant compound very close to its military bases? evidently the way the u.s. found out, they tracked a courier. it was an old f

nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is live in benghazi, libya.y to take the reins of that organization? >> logically it would go to his deputy. his second in command, ayman al zawahiri. but the fact that fact that osama bin laden has been killed creates a power struggle within the organization, does create a leadership vacuum. ayman al zawahiri has tremendous experience, he has credibility within the organization, but he's not popular within the organization. he's been described as arrogant. he's alienated a younger generation. and there is this question which many organizations face, companies, even states face when they lose their leader, will they stay within the command structure, the existing power structure, or will they skip to a younger generation, try and bring in new blood. and even al qaeda is facing that question right now. that new rising star within al qaeda would be the american and he is charismatic, he's popular, he's very savvy on the internet, grew up in new mexico, has been linked to almost all of the attacks recently that hav

richard engel joins us now.out him is that he's not very popular. he isn't going to be a unifying figure. and this is stuff that intel folks have picked up via phone call eavesdropping. >> they're saying he's not charismatic. >> reporter: he's certainly not charismatic. he's not the ideological or spiritual leader of al qaeda. he was much more of an operations chief. he was very close personally to osama bin laden. ayman al zawahiri, 59 years old, an egyptian, described as abrasive, arrogant but also very experienced. he has more history working with islamist militant groups than even bin laden did. he was arrested in egypt in 1982 in connection with the assassination of the late president anwar saddat. he was not directly implicated, and he was released from prison in 1984. the alliance he made with bin laden, however, in 1998 really expanded the operations and the capabilities for both zawahiri and bin laden. because in this alliance, bin laden brought money. he brought charisma. and ayman al zawahiri brought

for more on who this man is live go live to richard engel. how much of a threat to the world is al zawahiri? >> he is dlet. before we get to that i want to follow up on something, the conversation you were just having with mik. when we have been gatt thriheri reaction about the killing of bin laden, the people -- the thing that people were most upset about was that burial at sea. it is not common in the i ma'am lick wor islamic world and is not how people are to be buried and cared for in this part of the region. no matter what the u.s. military says it is not common here to have people slipped off aircraft carriers in weighted body bags by american forces. so releasing that particular image while the u.s. is trying to show that it's -- it carried it out respectfully could be the one image that backfires. very few people in this part of the world would be terribly offended by a bloody photograph, but one that is a sort of a pseudo-islamic ceremony. back to iman al zawahiri, the number two considered by almost everyone who knew him to be dange

>> richard engel in benghazi, libya, tonight, richard, thanks for all of that. >>> and now to an awful story that was revealed today about the tragic cost of good intentions. it's about young american women who followed the call of john f. kennedy and many others since and join the peace corps to make the world better. today, they testified about being brutally attacked while on assignment and what happened when they spoke out about it. the story from nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. >> reporter: their faces, once filled with wide-eyed optimism about changing the world. today before congress -- >> i'm a former peace corps volunteer and a peace corps rape survivor. >> reporter: -- their hearts were heavy. chilling accounts of rape, beating, and mistreatment while overseas in the peace corps. jessica smochik volunteered in bangladesh in 2004. she says she reported to peace corps officials there and in washington that local men terrorized her. they were not prosecuted. >> the men dragged me into an abandoned courtyard, and the violence began. they started by raping me,

jasoc reported last night by richard engel, that's a name we're going to be hearing in the coming daysnt operations, means all services, the army ranger regiment, s.e.a.l.s, the commandos, all combined into one special operations unit. and it's different from special forces, army special forces. it's probably a lot smaller force than people think. they were, they went in most likely in mh 53 j helicopters, large helicopters and it's interesting that today how large these helicopters are. and how small a force was. the force came in on two helicopters. and went out on one, because one of the helicopters had a problem mechanical problem and had to be destroyed in place by the attacking force. >> destroyed intentionally so that any information in there couldn't be used by opposing forces. >> destroyed in place. so no equipment could be retrieved. and everybody left on one helicopter. you always have backup, so there was yet another argt and support aircraft. but the size of the force involved would be, is much, much smaller than people think. >> it's interesting, this compound is fascinat

richard engel, nbc news. >>> the code name used by navy s.e.a.l.s in the osama bin laden raid has angeredamericans. the ford s.e.a.l. apachi tribe is asking for an apology using the name geronimo as a code name. they say it represents american tribes as being savages. >>> president obama will be at ground zero tomorrow and tour the site. it will be his first visit to ground zero as president. there will be a special as soon as he arrives at ground zero. you can watch it here at 4:00 tomorrow afternoon. >>> a group of women was arrested. the group was protesting a bill that cut funding for women. they said d.c. should decide how to spend its own tax money. >>> police went door to door in a neighborhood in fairfax county for the second time in less than a month. they're trying to find the man who sexually assaulted a woman as she took out the trash. jackie bensen is in tranconi, virginia for this story. jackie? >> they said he fled to a nearby neighborhood. fairfax county police detectives went door to door along forest lane, looking for information, people who may have seen something odd o

nbc's richard engel reports that the youngest son of colonel moammar gadhafi has been killed in a nato strike. the son is identified as saif al arab. three of moammar gadhafi's grandchildren were also killed. the libyan leader was also in the house but was not hurt. >>> these high gasoline prices we've been seeing here at home for some time show no signs of easing. aaa reported today that the average price of a gallon of regular is now at $3.93, up eight cents from one week ago. and gas prices are becoming a growing political issue. nbc's mike viqueira reports. >> you had enough of barack obama? >> reporter: from the campaign trail in new hampshire, tough talk from republican presidential hopefuls. seeking political gain from voter pain at the pump. >> we're going to have to hang the obama misery index around his neck. we're going to hang him with that -- so to speak, metaphorically, with -- you have to be careful these days. i learned that. >> reporter: today in his weekly address the president called for repeal of the $4 billion in subsidies oil companies get each year. >> these tax

richard engel, our nbc news chief foreign correspondent with us from benghazi, libya. >> the united states has spent over a trillion dollars fighting terrorism and, of course, terrorism will continue but it does feel that the event that started this off, this entire march into the middle east which was, of course, the attacks of 9/11, are now coming to a close with the death of osama bin laden. so it feels like a real possible turning point and i think in this part of the world it will certainly be welcome. >> williams: for perspective and reflection we talk with presidential historian and author dorr rinse kearns goodwin adam gopnik, essayist for the "new yorker" magazine. >> osama's left in our minds a certain uncertainty. what do we know about what he's doing in only a year ago you had folks in washington saying we haven't had any intelligence about him for years. so that uncertainty is now gone. we now can say for ourselves that people like him can be got no matter how safe and we are transfering that uncertainty to ayman al-zawahiri and everybody around him. we're now looking out of t

nbc richard engel joins us from cairo with that reaction. good morning, richard. >>> the syrian government is reacting to president obama's speech by cracking down on protesters. yesterday was one of the deadliest days, according to human rights groups. there were demonstrations all across the country and the crackdown was equally wide spread according to activists, the security forces didn't focus on one particular city, but, instead, fired on demonstrators when ever they tried to go out and oppose the president. >> nbc's richard engel. thanks so much. and now lester. >>> we want to talk more about the middle east and the reports of the israeli prime minister netanyahu. i'm sorry, let me move over here. more in the middle east, we're going to talk to richard wolffe, seep your political analyst for msnbc. sorry about the confusion. things are a bit out of order. but first the photo-op we saw between the president and mr. netanyahu. no air conditioning needed in that room. chilly there. could this not as been anticipated, could it have not be

richard engel, nbc news, cairo. >>> and that arab spring has taken another deadly turn in syria, where government security forces opened fire today on a funeral procession for 8 of the 44 anti-government protestors killed yesterday. at least three more were killed today and a human rights group says that brings the total number of people killed to more than 900. >>> in a sign that the taliban is following through on the threat to increase attacks following the death of osama bin laden, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a tent at the main military hospital in kabul. it was filled with afghan medical students eating lunch. at least six were killed and 23 others were hurt. >>> all over spain today people defied a ban on demonstrations aimed at tomorrow's local elections. protests against high unemployment and the government measures are now a week old. people are angry at both major parties for not bringing spain ouft of the prolonged crisis. >>> amanda knox was back in an appeals court today insisting she says nnts of murder and does not want to spend the rest of her life in prison. we

most of das kapital and i read the communist manifesto which was more of a rant you know marx and engels. but it seems to me that marx is analysis of raw capitalism of uninhibited capitalism of what we might today call libertarian or even bigger our republic and capitalism was fairly accurate that the small fish would get eaten by the middle fish the little fish getting by the big fish and you'd end up basically with monopolies or oligopolies. is prescription for it at least as it's been played out in several governments around the world doesn't seem to have worked your thoughts on all of that and how even the word marxism causes americans to kind of voluntarily jolt. well it might have made sense to understand that jolt factor during the cold war when our enemy the soviet union represented itself all the time as a marxist country or inspired by marxist theory but it's becoming very strange and and worn thin now that we've been over with the cold war for over twenty years one would think you could develop a little more sophisticated notion marxian theory is hundred fifty years old it was

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richard engel is in ben gasesist tonight, and robert cresse.i always go to you first because of your service to this -- i have to ask you this is an inside to their isi. >> reporter: we were told that no senior ranks officials knew. we heard that from washington sources. by that implications, it seems that some junior members did now that osama bin laden was in this military or compound. how could he exist in a walled compound, they didn't take out the trash, they burned it. just down the street from westpoint in an area full of retired gens, so somebody new, and according to sources, no one senior, but certainly injure members of the military. >> you're looking for someone hiding from somebody, a walked mansion doesn't that look like a guy that's on the run? >> or could be a guy who's very important. in a country where you're not conditioned, not trained to ask questions, it could be the different of an hvt. it may not have been known that it was bin laden. >> wouldn't the local prefect now, the local official that runs the achieve chase polic

engel: thank you. i thank the members on the other side of the aisle if you repeat it over and over again the people will believe it. the hyde amendment already prohibits federal funds from being used for abortion. this is not about federal funds. the other thing i don't understand is my republican friends always claim that they want smaller government. they don't want the government to intrude on people's lives. so here we are about to pass a measure that expands government, intrudes on people's lives and penalize small businesses and impeds them from creating jobs. i don't believe the government should be in the business of preventing people from accessing legal medical treatment. it surprises me and worries me that this congress keeps proposing legislation that diminishes the right to access health care. abortion is legal in this country. i understand how people feel on both sides of the aisle. it's a very personal decision. yet, republicans seem intent on interfering with a woman's right to make he

. >> richard engel, thank you. >>> and then backing away from an exit deal.using to sign an agreement to give up immunity. demonstrators rejected one deal because it would prevent him from standing trial. >>> and then mahmoud ahmadinejad is boycotting his duties in what is seen with a power struggle with the country's spy chief. he has not been seen at his office for eight days, missing two cabinet meetings and canceling a trip to a holy city. >>> and then in the juarez area, they found grenades and bullet proof vests, all found at a home in a residential neighborhood. >>> in poe lupd, thousands of jimi hendrix fans came together in hopes of breaking a record. and one group won the title two years ago, and this year on the record, more than 700 players short. >>> and then a live look at vatican city where the crowds of the faithful continue to lineup. the late pope was beatified before many this morning. father robert barron is the founder of "word on fire," and george waggle, nbc analysts. father, tell me the name where you are because i know i just misspoke

i'd like to say for the record that will representative meeks and engel, minority members of the committee, would have been here, but they're with the president at ground zero, so they extend their apologies and thanks for being here. we stand adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] ..

. >> that from allen engel, a locksmith in san francisco. on the back of his truck. >> i don't want the government making that decision for me. let me make that decision. >> the government said that it decided that releasing the pictures would have traded terror for proof. others monitor the arab press, and that makes sense. >> more prominence, especially with people trying to -- >> there were going to be some folks who deny it. and the fact of the matter is, you will not see is bin laden walking on this earth again. >> in san francisco, muslims releasing or not releasing the pictures was a political matter more than a religious one. for marco, it came down to good taste. >> do you show death row inmates when executed? no, you don't. >> inside and outside. >> we find out whether the pakistanis had knowledge of osama bin laden being located where he was. >> as the government sees it, more important knowledge will come from a treasure trove found inside of the compound. it includes ten computer hard drives, 100 hard drives, and ten cellular ph

engel: thank you. thank the members on the other side of the aisle if you repeat it over and over again the people will believe it. the hyde amendment already prohibits federal funds from being used for abortion. this is not about federal funds. the other thing i don't understand is my republican friends always claim that they want smaller government. they don't want the government to intrude on people's lives. so here we are about to pass a measure that expands government, intrudes on people's lives and penalize small businesses and impeds them from creating jobs. i don't believe the government should be in the business of preventing people from accessing legal medical treatment. it surprises me and worries me that this congress keeps proposing legislation that diminishes the right to access health care. abortion is legal in this country. i understand how people feel on both sides of the aisle. it's a very personal decision. yet, republicans seem intent on interfering with a woman's right to make her

engel. the chair: the gentleman from new york. mr. engel: i thank my friend for yielding to me. i rise in strong opposition to this bill. as ronald reagan used to say, there you go again. and then my republican colleagues go again. we sat through days and days of this in the health subcommittee and the energy and commerce full committee. this is, i don't know, the third or fourth or fifth or sixth bill on the floor trying to destroy the health care bill. i proudly support the health care bill and i think it's time to stop scaring the american people. this is political theater. the senate's not going to pass this. the president certainly would veto it if it passes. all we are having is once again another debate about health care on the house floor again and again and again. i think my friends on the other side of the aisle have made their point, they oppose health care reform. fine. how many times do we have to vote on it? this bill, the affordable health care act, this would repeal it, puts the american people back in charge of their health care by requiring insurance companies

nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in benghazi, libya. getting in the muslim world to bin laden's death? >> reporter: thankfully nothing like the comments by what appear to be militant bin laden supporters on the internet, hiding from the anonymity of wherever they're posting those blog sites. the reaction across the arab world, while considerably more muted than the one in the united states, for obvious reasons, the united states was the target of bin laden's first attack, 9/11, first major attack, the reaction in this part of the world has been also to celebrate it. people here feel that bin laden brought a bad reputation to the muslim world. it was because of al qaeda that when people from not libya, they didn't travel much, but people from egypt and even the gulf states went abroad, they got extra support. they were looked at when they travelled to europe and the united states with a great deal of suspicion. that's the first reaction. the second reaction we get from people here and we were just out on the streets of benghazi talking t

here's how richard engel reported on that question for "nbc news nightly news" when the photos were released. one quick word of warning here, richard's report does contain shots of the fairly graphic photos in question. >> no way i'm convinced says this man. i'm 100% unconvinced. we asked others in the store to raise their hands if they were equally doubtful. these men thought the pictures especially the one of saddam's older son shot in the mouth just don't look right. he was known to be thin with a beard. this picture shows him with a swollen face and long beard. people thought the photo of his brother was a closer match. why didn't they take the photographs right away, asked this man, before they got all bloated? >> if releasing gruesome photographs of dead bodies was accepted as indisputable proof that the pple in those pictures are in fact dead, that could be a good argument for releasing the bin laden photos now. even eight years ago in that shop in baghdad people had enough awareness of photo shopping technology to dispute a photo. then the good you can accomplish by releasing one of