serina was dis enginueos, i was sitting at the restaurant and after the dot com bust that was not a business model that was going to work and then home took over and they were there until 2011 and after the second dot com bust and the rate recession they went out of business which is kind of obvious, it was hard and a lot of restaurants went out of business and so those two restaurants were there 13 years total. it was not like they were open and closed in six months. >> if you look at the letters of opposition, all of the neighborhood businesses would house the fish, and inspiration, all voiced their opposition and all have jamba juice, two starbucks and the gnc. that is what this will do, thank you. >> good afternoon, maybe good evening, commissioners, my name is david troop. and i am lived in the triangle for 13 years and i am on the board. there are more reasons to disapprove this project than i have time to talk about and many of them have been covered, the existing mexican restaurants within a block of this location, the dramatic impact that formula retail has on neighborhood character