. >> lupe: to be honest, chi-raq, is englewood. >> anthony: it's a pretty staggering body count. >> lupeen like this, right and the only reason the story now is white people looking at it. oh, that's terrible, that's been like this for 30 years. how come it wasn't terrible 30 years ago when you probably could have actually did something about it? >> anthony: does a hip-hop artist, have any obligation really to, to speak about anything positive or even smarter than cars, girls or where's my money? >> lupe: um, i guess it depends on where you come from, and do you feel the obligation to where you came from. a lot of people in the hood won't take me serious. they won't take chuck d serious, because at least you take somebody who's rapping about crack, rapping about dope, that is actual thing that they can go get and sell and make money that day if they wanted to. you can't preach to them black panther party or, or, you know, marcus garvey or this because they can't go out and get it and actually sell it and monetize it and make some money off it. >> anthony: despite an appalling murder rate