it has been enlitenning as we spoke with reverend stein weber. we left off at the resurrection. >> yes. >> a week from now it will happen. >> right. >> what are some of the stories you thing are so important to remember about the resurrection story. >> the resurrection story we tell sunday morning the tomb is empty and that it appears jesus body has been stolen and then jesus appears to mary in the garden and then peter and john come and they don't know what to do about it. to them it is a mystery at first, surprise to us, 2000 years later it is not a surprise. >> i read recently, mary is the apostle to the apostle. it is difficult not to name any denomination why women are not ordained when she has such a powerful witness. >> in my mind, evangelical lutheran church in america, ordaining women since 1970, not as long as other denominations, my wife is a pastor too. >> i didn't know that does she pastor with you at the which are. >> no, she was the pastor before i was, she passed it to me as she took on full time councilling. >> where are people t