the first one, under the leadership of an rico fermi, -- en rico fermi -- an rico -- enrico fermi, was finished in 1942. the second, revolving around the plutonium discovered 1940 at berkeley was to develop a separations process that could be scaled and used for kilogram quantities separation of plutonium. o has been accomplished by 1943. -- had been a congress by 1943. when i finished -- had been accomplished by 1943. when i finished my studies, the met labs were not there anymore. so, i went to oak ridge to work on the uranium project. so, i did that. i got on a train and went from bus to and then took a oak ridge. in september of 1944. that is how i got on the manhattan project. so, did any of your colleagues also get swept up in the manhattan project? or were you just singled out among your colleagues to go? at northwestern, as far as i know, i was the only one to go on the manhattan project. irving, wasrofessor a consultant to the manhattan project. he did important work on biological materials at northwestern. onlyr as i know, i am the actually went to work on the manhattan proje