and certainly they have. >> and enrico tarrio to me is a fascinating sort of terrifying character. is afro cuban from miami, you know, presents visually as a black man. but he's ripping down black lives matter signs. that's why he was arrested, why he wasn't actually free to be in d.c. on january 6th. but as you said, he's pushed forward as the frontman. he's probably going to do time and get convicted because the case against him is no different than the case against elmer stewart rhodes. these are people like him that are going to go to jail and for what? for donald trump. >> right, and they see donald trump as the main reason for being. they are out there fighting for gop grievances. part of what makes this trial so interesting is it's almost a mob-like trial. you have proud boys who have already pleaded guilty ready to testify against their own. and you have enrico tarrio's connections to people like roger stone and donald trump's inner circle. so if the prosecution wants to fry some big fish here, they could use that testimony to try to get more information about extremist con