what do they call it, the regulatory agencies that are supposed to regulate the energy people, like entergy is the big one down here. so they said well, we are going to give them a break for the big corporations, but all the little people and small companies are going to get 13% increase next year. host: congressman, i'm sure you are familiar with that. guest: i actually began my work career, my work life, as a member working as an engineer within the construct of the public service commission in new york. which was all about fighting for the people's needs and these regulatory outcomes. -- in these regulatory outcomes. there is a strong need to make sure that in these changing times, we had the professionalism underscored in how these areas are addressed. there needs to be a balance or so as we transition, we are not saturating one element of the ratepayer base and relieving others unnecessarily. hurting other categories. i don't know the specifics on your cases in arkansas, but certainly, as i mentioned earlier, people pay bills, not rates. and it is important to make sure that people hav