have the message for upward mobility, economic opportunity, pulling people out of poverty, entrepreneurialship, if we truly believe that, the guys i serve with do, then it isn't the burden or the challenge to take that to new communities, to new generations. we're doing so you have to be careful using what i call tired or worn out rhetoric. it takes energy to go into different places. sometimes you're outnumbered. sometimes you are in the minority as far as being a conservative in thought. but that's the real, i guess, the real thing i enjoy about all this is you get to go to new places and talk about these things. but it has to start with the relationships. i talked about this hopefully it will be getting some traction but from day one one of the reasons i ran is because over the years as a pastor for over two decades we have been worked in places like cleveland and baltimore and new york. not just those communities but different generations and college-aged students and say where do you see yourself in 20, 25 years? is it the entitlement mind set of a federal government to make your decision

. >> well, the backbone of this country, i think we should support entrepreneurialship.e should support small business, but i am not supportive of large multinational corporations that make billions a year in profit and don't pay a nickel in taxes. >> first of all, i know how the headlines played this, but that was a good exchange. a lot of people like you who are trying to find a way to get ahead and the system you feel is set up against you. what were you taking from what senator sanders was telling you. >> he never answered my question. the question is he's comparing me with a billionaire. i read something this morning. if you converted that to seconds, it would take 12 days to be a millionaire. it would take 32 years to be a billionaire. he doesn't get it and this is what -- a lot of business owners, republicans, this is what we understand. i mean, my son wanted to buy -- he said i want this free app, free, okay. he wants a free app from the iphone store or whatever it is. i said okay. well, guess what, my credit card bounced because for a supplier, i had it maxed, p

. >> well, the backbone of this country, i think we should support entrepreneurialship.should support small business. but i am not supportive of large multi-national corporations that make millions and don't pay a nickle in taxes, nor am i supportive of those corporations who throw american workers out on the street and move to china or mexico. >> do you think there's space to work with trump? he's talked about getting rid of regulations. >> should a small business or large business be able to pollute the water or the air or the food? no, i hope you don't believe that. >> i don't pollute air, water or food. however, when these rules and regulations come in to cover all of business and you're start beistarting, trying to start a business, it's tough enough -- >> i think we should take a look at it, but the devil is in the details. some of them may not -- it's very easy to blame barack obama for everything, by the way. some of those regulations may be state, maybe they're local. i don't know exactly the federal regulations. >> but you're open to looking. >> sure, if there'

. >> well, the back bbone of this country, i think we should support entrepreneurialship and small businessm not supportive of large multi-national corporations that make billios a year in profit and don't pay a nickel in taxes, nor am i supportive of those corporations who throw american workers out on the street and move to china or mexico. >> what about the small businesses? do you think there's space to work with trump on that? he's talked a lot about getting rid of regulations. >> should a small business or large business be able to pollute the water or air or food? >> i don't pollute air, water or food. however, when these rules and regulations come in to cover all of business, and you're starting, trying to start a business, it's tough enough -- >> i think we should take a look at it, but it's, you know, the devil is in the details. we've got to see what those regulations are. some of them, by the way. it's very easy to blame barack obama for everything, by the way. some of those regulations may be state, maybe local. i don't know the exact regulations. >> but you say you're open. >>

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