this isn't about epa or department of homeland security. these are the american people who didn't realize because they didn't have access to information what they were living next to, where their children were going to school. there's two things the industry does. first, they piece around regulation so no one sees the full picture. that's clearly part of what happened here. epa had some information and homeland security had some, i'm sure the state had some amount. not enough resources. they also keep information from the public. you know, they say, while we can't give this information out because then terrorists will use it, and right after this accident, the industry started to make sure epa didn't release information on what kind of chemicals were at this plant and they hid it behind homeland security. when people have information, they protect themselves. >> lisa jackson, former epa administrator, who did an incredible job, if you don't mind my saying, at the epa. great to have you with us tonight. >>> that is "all in" for this evening.

people forget that the epa administration, this is the president speaking, this is not the epa. >> was supposed to happen the state department say, this is in the national interest of the united states at this pipeline and we want to get this thing moving. we have heard it over and over from folks. we want to make sure again this is our best trading partners, the canadians, many going to the west coast and canada. gerri: there all sorts of strategic issues, job issues, economic issues here, there is also just good judgment and an architecture of values that will set the stage for the countries destiny for at least a century. we are the world's richest nation in terms of energy reserves. for this kind of a decision to be taken by the administration, this will be a pivotal issue in the 2014 election. don't you think? >> you have the senate races out there to be hotly contested, they will be asking the members would've a stand on this pipeline. this is a private line. it will create those jobs in this country, and that will be a big issue. lou: turning to a very important thing today, rul

to an epa web site. and they have been maintained and discoverable. there was one exception, and it was not a document. i did find when i went back and searched that in my husband's email there was an unsolicited in-coming e-mail that was sent for me, and as soon as i saw it, i should get it into the epa site. >> great, so your answer includes not using your personal account to correspond with any one else about epa official business? >> that is correct. >> ok. i had the same question regarding something that has come up in the p.m. and the administrator has expressed concern about. had he ever used instant messaging accounts to conduct epa business? >> one good thing about being 58 is i did not know how to use than that. i have never used them and i do not know how. sorry. you got to admit it. >> we're moving to senator sanders. >> thank you, senator boxer. state, wehy, and my take environmental issues quite seriously. where are proud of our record. last month we had a town meeting on global warming. we

i don't want people to forget, richard nixon created the epa. if the republicans were so hell-bent and determined to get rid of it, then pass a bill to get rid of it. they're trying to shut down federal agencies all day long and we know it's stupid. my point is it does matter to the family of four. gas prices are low, they would be lower if we did other things to increase expanded types of energy. but you've got to look out for the senators in these states. >> this would benefit some states economically. they do have an incentive they've got to push for it. >> they have passed bills to fund the epa. >> not this year they haven't zwlxt not in the last couple of weeks. i think republicans think that first of all, republicans believe that the president will aprove the keystone pipeline and also at the same time recognize it will be tied up in litigation for the foreseeable future. when the president tried to pass cap and trade legislation, they dubbed it a national energy tax. everything is about raising taxes on people who are consumers of energy.

the epa finally decided to assess twenty chemicals under the toxic substances control ac specifically flame retardants. arlene blum is a scientist who has spent her entire career blazing a trail toward a ban on flame retardants in furniture. her science shows they create serious health hazards. i sat down with her to find out what makes flame retardants such a matter of concern. >> we found a little girl whose mom bought her pajamas in england. so she'd never worn flame retardant pajamas treated with tris we put her in tris pajamas, we collected her urine, and it contained tris breakdown products. so then we tested tris to see if it affected dna, to see if it was a mutative, and it was one of the strongest .. we had ever seen. so then we wrote a scientific paper saying the main flame retardant in children's pajamas was a mutagen and could cause cancer, possibly. and three months later tris was banned from children's pajamas >> arlene has been a pioneer in the field of flame retardant research. without her, tris might still be widely used. >> arlene blume is really a force of nature. a

there's only been 13 cases in the history of the epa were they use the 404 c. it's very hard can make them stop. so we have to change the 1872 law act to change how things are done in our yard or this country and we should change it. if i asked how much you think they're charged to run a mine on the united states federal land, do you know the answer? five dollars an acre. so they're using our federal land for $5 an acre in 1872. gas and oil pay 12% and we have no real superbomb that really holds them. they can go bankrupt, walk away with after the $200 billion fund will pay for. so it needs to be addressed in a big way. so that's the law that needs to be addressed. >> i would say with respect to rocky flats coming up to look at the law in the beginning as well. if they mention in my presentation, companies that produce nuclear weapons are identified from any damage to the surrounding area. for the secrecy surrounding rocky flats in the beginning was the cold war and cold war secrecy, but then it became a complicated as time went on. it's a beautiful part of the

we all have been concerned that in some cases epa and him and. him the group and even are the only two parties in the lawsuit and him up with a settlement and the truly impacted parties never have a seat at the table. never get input, never say. him ask you to change that practice. and so far you haven't agreed to the request. him him him did group like to stay for instance, shouldn't they have a seat at him in any proposed him that? >> what i can speak to is how we practice it under the clean air act. the cleaner act actually does require public comment on him and does for him and. him and him and for him him him him him him him. >> him and those agreement out for public comment. >> have you ever changed agreements based on comments? >> i don't know the full history of the agency's him him in bed by now, we are supposed him and the statute speak with him we close with state-owned reasonable pace issues to the extent we can. >> have you responded to the foia request? >> i'm not sure what specific you are talking unconservative back to you and fin

>> big oil companies made predictions about the last time that the epa tried to clean us out. those predictions are wrong. even if they are right, let's say they are right. the average american uses 10 gallons of galine a week, which means that it would be a 90-cent per week increase. gerri: let's give him a chance to get back in here. you know, i have read that we have already reduced sulfur emissions by 90%. how far do we want to go? are we going to make it go away? i don't understand where is the end of this. >> i saw the same statistics. it has been reduced cost of $10 billion since 1994. that is great, we should try to project the environment. i don't know why we have to direct the spirit we were all supposed to be driving electric cars in 10 or 20 years. but that is not working out too well for the crowd. as we are back to talking about big oil and how the evil big oil is killing the senior citizens most with respiratory problems. problems. the problem isn't people die from air pollution. people cannot afford to pay for the price of gas. once again, the green agenda is f

we have an epa certified contractor sitting here today to respond to that. we are fully aware of what is required with respect to reimmediating this solution. >> thank you. >> that's been the case for 15 years. >> i understand. what's in front of us here today we want to get to the bottom of this. we understand there is obviously some bad tension about this. and we with respect that, but the focus for us now is to figure out a solution here. >> the solution is for the department to cite miss sang also for the violation and to enforce the violation on her as well so they can get onto the property with the powers granted to it by the administrative code and to get this problem reimmediated. dr. engelberg is willing to pay any reasonable expenses. as long as the charges are reasonable he's willing to pay them. that's not the issue. as far as being reasonable, i would like to, the most recent tempt to revolve this issue outside of the compulsion of the government, is contained in exhibits 23 and 4 of our reply. a fellow named joe butler called me and e-mailed me

had epa made any kind of calculation on that? the clean air act, we were not allowed to take that into account in announcing a transportation or a land use control that would achieve the standard. removing that number of cars would have just devastated it -- economically. the air would have been cleaner, but there wouldn't have been -- people wouldn't have been able to get to the hospitals and other things. what was the philosophy behind the law that said, "we don't want to count cost"? the philosophy is just as i stated at the outset, that we thought we knew what the bad pollutants were, that we knew how to measure them, we knew the level at which the health and environmental effects occurred, we could get them below that level with a margin of safety, and we had the technology that could achieve that at a reasonable cost. all those assumptions are wrong. and if those assumptions are wrong, then the law that embodies those assumptions is bound to drive us to an irrational result. and it's just particularly obvious in a case like

you expect epa to be against the pipeline.s not surprising, and at the same time, people are making a big deal out of it. does it stop you in your tracks? >> well, that's what we're trying to fin out from the administration. the project's been delayed four and a half years. all of these things have been studied and studied again, and they are found to be nonissues. as a matter of fact, less environmental impact with the pipeline than without it. less greenhouse gas. studying pipeline safety, like i say, in an exhaustive way, so we're asking the white house when are you going to make a decision? they are saying this summer. we want verification of that, and we're trying to get the project approved congressionally. melissa: back in court? congress is moving ahead saying they didn't need a permit from the president any longer, that they were going to be able to crge forward. has that changed as a result of this? >> well, congress -- the house is working on approving a bill that would provide approval for the passing of the -- pro

>> the epa has approved it it for use in the u.s. in a couple of other cadillac models. most others decided not to use it due you to safe at the concerns. there is issues with the coolant exploding and turning into poisonous fumes when it is burned. mercedes did a number of tests on this before implimenting it. and decided that it wasn't worth the risk. it was too dangerous to use. >> we are looking at the video that daimler benz did with the new refridge rant. >> they simulated head on collisions and two thirds resulted in fires like what you are seeing. the coolant burns. it turned into hydrogen florine gas which actually etched the windows of the vehicles. >> means it burns at extremely high temperature. >> high temperature. it's dangerous. it is so toxic that even a small amount of it if it got in contact with sea a portion of your hand could be deadly in certain circumstances. >> and this is what the gi. in mccarthy is proposing for refridge rant in our cars. >> they approved it because they believe it contributes less to global

you know, the epa, in my opinion, is failing america. need to do is take a look at this last week's abysmal jobs record, and what we know is that if the president really wanted to get people back to work, he would really rein in the epa. the regulations that continue to come out are burdensome, they're expensive and time consuming, and that's what i'm going to be boring in on during the hearing. rick: i'm just wondering about a balance. you're a medical doctor, you know the importance of clean air and clean water. how do we strike a balance, and how confident are you that this administration is dedicated to finding a balance between putting in place policies that make sure that our water and air are clean and at the same time are not so overly burdensome on farmers, for example, on businesses, for example? >> well, that's exactly right. we have -- the epa has done remarkable things in the past, but they now are proceeding trying to improve things that are very, very expensive to make maybe minimal improvements with the costs surreal. and

but the epa hasn't responded. they haven't provided that information.is looking at right now taking steps to say we need that information to find out how we were affected adversely in light of agreement you were making. >> when you had no voice in the process at all. >> the e.p.a. has come under heat because it's a powerful agency. how does it work and how can it handle the regulations to impact you. what chance do states have to fight back? >> what we take seriously is what congress said. the clean air act is an example. has something called the regional haze rule. aesthetics or visibility rule. states will give the primary authority to develop the state plans to meet the obligations of that law. oklahoma did that in 2010, as an example. and the epa came in, in 2011 and said we don't like what you did. we'll kick it out. the only thing wrong with, that it was inconsistent with law. their plan would cost $2-2 $2-2.5 billion for utility companies to cause the utility rate for consumers to go up 20% in three years, annually. so we thought back. and said y

this issue of california state certification as opposed to epa certification just came up last week. there is nothing to prevent that from continuing. so what it is that she's requesting cannot be left nebulous. there has to be some guideline issued by this commission that makes sense and reasonable and legal. >> we don't have that jurisdiction. >> i would just, we can only go as far as we can go within our administrative purview in what we can do. we can also just not grant the continuance. so that's sort of our leverage. so from where i'm sitting i would advise that you be more flexible. you could do what's legally required what is the bare minimum which seems like it's what you are doing. sometimes when we are emotionally invested in something and there is a conflict it's difficult to take that next step. it seems that's required. perhaps you should step back. i have never listened to you before but it seems that you have done a lot of attack that doesn't need to be. i'm wondering if you are going back to miss sang and come up with something that she can live with. it seems to me

here, the epa says more review is needed. >> i can't wait for a scientist to prove something works orsn't work. i can't wait for the regulators to take their time. we need these bees now. >> lost a half million dollars last year, layed off five of seven workers. he says he can't survive another year like that. bill whitticker, cbs news, california. >> according to the epa, their review of the pesticides linked to bee decline should be finished in about five years. >> another bee in the news tonight, of the spelling variety. the notoriously tough national spelling bee is redefining the rules. for the first time, contestants will have to answer the age-old question, what does it all mean? >> 17-year-old, linbrook high school senior heard the buzz about the national spelling bee. >> i was definitely really surprised. >> placed fifth in the annual contest four years ago. she says she still would have entered had a vocabulary test been added then. >> i'm a work person. i wouldn't mind learning the meanings of the words as well. it would have been tough to enter. >> she would have studied d

licensing board i have all the qualifications necessary to do this work and the training logs as the epa requires and all the circumstances will be done. >> i believe this and i do know about the laws about lead. if you are certified. >> i'm certified as personally as a supervisor and my company is certified. >> you told me that your workers have been trained. >> they are trained as as supervisor i log their training but they don't personally need to go to the certification class. >> but not your certification bus there is a training for them. >> no. there is an 8 hour rrp certification that is given to one qualified employee of the company. that's me. >> not your workers in >> they are not legally required to be through that training. >> they have not done it? >> they have not done it because i am legally allowed to train them and as their supervisor i have to maintain all the best practices. >> okay. thank you. >> one quick question. the photo that miss sang had of that worker was he one of your workers? >> no. just a guy. not one of my workers. >> thank you. any other questions. any o

the epa administrator said 40 years after the first earth day, the planet is still hurting, but he saidre is still much to celebrate, including better water and air quality. >>> workers are putting the final touches on the george w. bush library. organizers expect all four living former presidents to be there. president obama also plans to attend. >>> only on 2 tonight, video that could be the key to catching a killer. if two minutes, the much-loved grocery store clerk who police say was randomly shot at by someone in a vehicle. >>> and it's being called a one- stop shop for emergencies and disasters at your fingertips. the proactive step one bay area city is taking to make sure lost loved ones can be found and the public is kept safe. >>> this is ktvu channel 2 news at 6. >>> good evening, everyone. i'm frank somerville. >> and i'm julie haener. the unsolved killing of a grocery store clerk who was just walking down the street when he was gunned down took a poignant turn today. david stevenson joins us now from san francisco with new evidence police released today and the tribute from

narrator: epa standards did not safeguard against cryptosporidium, because it was an unknown threat. once it contaminated the water supply, the treatment plant had no capability to kill the pathogen. so it spread throughout the system. biedrzycki: we saw an expenditure of $90 million to upgrade both water treatment plants. kaminski: cryptosporidium was a wake-up call. it was a wake-up call for us. it's a wake-up call for the nation. take care of your infrastructure before you have the kind of problem we had. biedrzycki: by no stretch of the imagination do i think we're out of the woods. recent cdc statistics indicate that up to 32 million cases of waterborne disease occur each year in this country. roy: but the vast majority of waterborne outbreaks go undetected. when people first get ill, they think, "oh, it's something i ate last night." they don't think, "oh, it's something i drank last night." narrator: the milwaukee incident pointed out the potential vulnerability of our drinking water infrastructure in controlling the spread of illness. biedrzycki: it's incumbent upon us to try

exxon owns the epa. ask this gentleman what they pay in fines every year and ask them what they pay and profits. this is a small piece of doing business. it is really sad because a lot of people in the states don't understand that. that stuff coming to the pipeline does not really consider oil. they don't have to pay on that. it is considered another name because it is this oil sand stuff so they don't have to pay into the fund that helps clean up these oil spills. guest: the oil we saw on television there was stopped. exxonmobil and its contractors have cleaned it up working with the e.t. -- epa. the light did not ever see any crude oil. the heavy crude oil mostly fled. some part of it evaporate and some part of that sinks and that can happen with any heavy crude oil. there will be since oil in the soil that will be rid mediated. they have a cash advance to governments and first responders to respond quickly after words to respond to a clean up. companies pay into this oil trust fund and a company that

exxon owns the epa. ask this gentleman what they pay in fines every year and ask them what they pay and profits. this is a small piece of doing business. it is really sad because a lot of people in the states don't understand that. that stuff coming to the pipeline does not really consider oil.-- isn't considered oil. they don't have to pay on that. it is considered another name because it is this oil sand stuff so they don't have to pay into the fund that helps clean up these oil spills. guest: the oil we saw on --levision there was stopped. stopped before it enterted lake conway. exxonmobil and its contractors have cleaned it up working with the e.t. -- epa. the light did not ever see any-- lake did not ever see any crude oil. the heavy crude oil mostly fled. -- floats. some part of it evaporate and some part of that sinks and that can happen with any heavy crude oil. there will be since oil in the soil that will be rid mediated. -- remediated. they have a cash advance to governments and first responde

>> the epa is pro fossil fuel? you went to college to get stupid? come on, it's the epa, they're against these guys, they're never going to take their foot off the jugular because these are fossil fuels we're talking about. we've got to find other ways to make money. economists, you are not welcome here, stay away from our zone. don't come into our zone or we will tackle you and take you down! you're just a fan running from the field on -- running in the field! we're going to go down there and give you the business. stay away from them, stay with us. "mad money" will be right back. >>> coming up -- apple aftermath. if the maker of all things "i"continues to underperform the market, could it mean trouble for the rest of tech? or is apple's pain everyone else's gain? cramer is seeing signals you need to know about and he reveals them in a new edition of "off the charts." and later -- wonder drugs? all this week cramer's checking up on the strongest trends in medical science, and tonight, he's focusing in on companies with powerful treatments that coul

let's remember, epa did not have the legal authority to force bp not to use this. jackson wrote them a letter. this is in the story on may 19. asking them to stop using the toxic dispursant but she did not have the opportunity to force them to stop and bp wrote back the next day and essentially said, sorry, we are going to continue. >> the people made sick by exposure to correxit, and again the ways this he were made sick, are the ways you point out were predicted or described by the company that makes it which is why they should they should be used in such careful ways. are the people who made sick by this chemical seeking redress? what are they doing to get their medical expenses covered? are they settled with the residents that covered the rest of the oil spill? >> they are trying, rachel. but it'll be an uphill path because, now, you know, bp set aside last year, roughly $8 billion for medical claims. but unfortunately moestd of the illnesses that these people are suffering from are not covered under that settlement and that's partly because they were not well

as epa said, they are writing the book as they go along.f the spill, the first thing -- the unified command did was put boom. as we're learning about tar sand, and i know i'm not expert, i'm just a mom that's been impacted, the tar sand either evaporated, which we all breathed the chemicals in the air, became sick, the remainder of that oil, which is so heavy, it sank. it went right underneath the boom, it went underneath and continued to flow downstream, so, that is a severe difference from your conventional or mom's good-old type of crude. >> mom's kind of oil spill. this is not your father's oil spill. let me ask -- >> exactly. >> deb, thinking about this and thinking about what seems evident, which is that nobody really seems to know anything about exactly how to deal with this kind of spill, do you have any advice, do you have anything that you've learned from this experience that you might share with the people in arkansas who are dealing with this in their town right now? >> unfortunately, we do. the communication between enbridge an

we've had two successes against the epa involving the cross state air pollution rule and the regional hayes case that we have in the 10th circuit. we are seeing tremendous success responding to the federal government exceeding its authority. >> all right. if this new bill passes, your state senate i believe still hasn't voted on it. do you expect that the governor will sign it so that people in oklahoma can do a check on their refunds so you'll have a little bigger budget for that? >> i think both the governor and the legislature are dedicated to making sure that the attorneys general office is equipped to respond to this administration, who seems intent on making sure that federalism is not respected in certain instances. yes, i think the governor would sign that in a quick fashion. >> attorney general, thank you. we'll be watching to see what happens in your state. thank you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >>> now tonight's issue -- would you give part of your state tax refund back to your state to help fight the federal government? yes or no? vote in our poll. >>> and straight ahead, more

. >> the epa records actually describe this facility as a pesticide producer. i asked him if there were any previous dpierz that he was aware of at this facility. he said as far as he knew, no. although we heard from another person out there in town earlier who said that they recall that there may be some sort of history there. again, this is something we'll have to sort out in the morning when we're able to look more closely at the records and talk to officials out there. i asked him if he had any other ideas as to what would have caused this and he said there's really nothing i can say right now, i don't have anything more to add to that. brian and amanda? >> scott, what kinds of records are kept on facilities like this? >> well, the epa typically, you know, tracks the kinds of chemicals that are there. the state also has a program through the department of health that chemicals that are kept on a property like that. and also in local areas the local fire department, the fire marshal's office will go through and inspect a facility like that. so there are a nu

did an incredible job, if you don't mind my saying, at the epa. great to have you with us tonight. >>> that is "all in" for this evening. rachel maddow starts now. >> everybody within the sound of our voices, i want to say, if you missed what chris just said about the chemical plants and how that went haywire during the bush administration, stay up and wrap the rerun. >> thank you. >> thank you for staying with us the next hour. there is a lot going on in the news tonight, even if you're only talking about the news tonight from texas. there is a lot to get to. we're going to start tonight right here, in san diego, california, in the fancy, rancho santa fe neighborhood in san diego, california, where in march 1997, the local sheriff's office got a tip something was very wrong inside one specific mansion in rancho, santa fe. inside that mansion, they found 39 cult members all dressed identically and tucked away neatly in beds, a mass suicide. their cult was called the heaven's gate. as best anybody could figure, they killed themselves because they t

some say the epa doesn't have the authority to do that.ew rain tax will cost an $50 to $200 a year and no escaping it the state would use satellite imeragery to determine your rain tax. >> what about a parking lot and shopping center. the rain tax will actually be more than the property taxes and that leaves them with only the option of passing the costs along to the tenants and all of the goods and services will go up in costs. the epa said it will have benefits far beyond the bay itself and help support the local economies. >> shepard: thank you, doug. >> when you add up what we are paying him and his book sales. president obama made a lot of money . he gave a lot of that away. tax returns showed that the president and his wife reported adjusted gross income of $600,000. that is down a couple of grand from the year before. they donated $150,000 to charit yepaid more than $100,000 in taxings. >> a man with a knife attacked a passenger on the bus. that tops the news around the world in 80 seconds . >> chin ayou can see the guy walk toward

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this happening just days after the epa blasted the plan saying the risks to the environment are just too high. supporters are still rallying behind the project saying construction of the pipeline will help give america energy independence and create thousands and thousands of jobs. wendell goler is live the a the white house with more on this. what exactly is happening inside the house? what is the strategy by house republicans? >> reporter: well, jenna they are trying to push through legislation that would take the decision on building the keystone xl pipeline out of the hands of the state department and the environmental protection agency. their goal is to pass it before memorial day. the bill has a hundred republican cosponsors. the chair of the natural resources committee says keystone is the victim of obama administration road blocks and delays. >> president obama has held up this project for years even though he has gone through extensive reviews. the state department has repeatedly determined that this project will have no significant environmental impacts. yet, still, this ad

the epa has classified it as a major spill. exxonmobil has not announced how much has spilled yet as of this evening they have cleaned up 12 million barrels. it was common to hear the residents say they didn't know they lived essentially on top of a 60-year-old oil pipeline. and in the cable news business, the degree of an oil spill is determined by the pictures. these come from arkansas. most of these birds are been bathed at least once before the pictures were taken. just two days before the big suburban spill in arkansas, a train derailed in minnesota spilling 15,000 gallons of crude into a rural minnesota field. we don't know for sure whether that was also tar sands oil, but we do know it came from alberta. as for the pipeline that ruptured in arkansas, that pipeline used to carry crude oil from texas up north to illinois, but in 2006 because there were so much heavy crude oil coming out of canada, exxon reversed it so now it flows north to south. as america is projected to become the western hemisphere's hub for oil produc

the epa sent them a no and said, you are being fined $75,000. they said it was the wet lands. going back to the clean water act. we took something that was well-intentioned to stop companies from dumping chemicals into the water and wear using it to abuse middle-class families to put some gravel on a lot that does not have any water on it. they had the audacity to tell them, you have no recourse in court. the supreme court said, this is america for goodness sakes. they cannot take your property. my answer to you would be, we need to do a better job of saying we believe in a free environment. we believe in rules, but the balance has shifted too far. we are abusing property rights and small property owners. we need to shift the balance back. if you shift the balance of regulations too strongly, you lose jobs. that is where we are. >> good morning, senator. my name is jeffrey. i'm a foreign business student here. i'm from washington, d.c. how are you? >> very good. >> when i was at the school of business, i went to one of my teachers office. said to me, we malcolm x. >> your teac

they have 6 hup people on the ground, we've heard and the epa has six. again, it just goes to show our federal regulators aren't prepared to deal with this oil. exxon mobile, on the other hand, is a company that made $45 billion last year, almost breaking world records for corporate profits, yet they can't be bothered to inspect their pipelines like the pegasus pipeline that they were fined for not inspecting in 2010. then they're left to police themselves in arkansas? it's outrageous. >> michael: it is outrageous with a capital outrageous. lena moffitt. thank you for joining us on "the young turks." it's an amazing thing that is happening. maybe it will come to some good. when we come back we'll look at the legacy of our 40th president ronald reagan, how he's still relevant today and whether or not that's a good thing or bad thing for republicans. >> 32 years ago this week. armed service secret agents could not protect ronald reagan from a man with a gun. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> michael: former british prime minister margaret thatcher passed away. >> her polit

the epa may not have the authority to do that, maryland is trying to push to meet the new standards. obama administration did not provide any federal funding so maryland taxpayers will have to foot the bill. new rain tax will cost the average homeowner a $50-200 a year. >> it's a large shopping center where you have a big parking lot the impervious surface tax, it will be more than the property tax is. so the only option is to pass the costs along to tenants and all goods and services in the state of maryland will go up in cost. >> molly: when it passed a new pollution standards for chesapeake bay, epa said, quote, it will have significant benefits far beyond the chesapeake itself, helping to clean rivers and other waterways that help support local economies and things like fishing and swimming and server as drinking water sources. how will the state determine how many surfaces it's citizens have? satellite imagery from all the eyes in the sky. >> bret: thank you. still ahead, they followed all the rules to come to america and home-schooled their children. so why does the government

the epa said it was concerned that transporting crude oil via pipeline could lead to spills like onen arkansas last month and concern about the social cost of higher greenhouse gas emissions, not only from burning the oil sands crude but from extracting it. at the state department they noted the review process is not done yet. >> we continue to review the keystone xl pipeline in a transparent and efficient manner. >> reporter: at the white house they shrugged off the house republicans attempt to deal them a hand. >> i understand the house republicans have a political interest in this. they have demonstrated it in the past. >> reporter: a year ago they tried to speed up the approval by tying the decision to a payroll tax cut. mr. obama called their bluff by saying his decision was no. on this day some of his natural allies in organized labor were pressuring him to let construction begin. >> we're tired of waiting and we believe the time has come to make the final decision on one of the most important projects to unlock the energy future for this country, the keystone xl pipeline. >> r

there is a battle between the epa that said the pipe line costs more . the state department seems to be leading in favor of it. >> it is facinating f. i were going to gamble i would say the state department wins. the biggest concern to the department is whatt does to the aquafer. that is it the worry. >> i think it is a aqufer. >> excuse me. >> the folks in nebrask and the governor was concerned and now those concerns he feems have been met, bill? >> there is more that rick and his friends could do. support fracing and we could replace coal with new form much energy. >> rick, you support fraking but do you think that the administration has been dragging foot on fraking? >> most of the foot dragging is not at the feral willful level -- level. but the state steve, this administration doesn't like carbon energy. they said that many times, the energy secretary and president. look at fraking, ited out slow and increased tremendously. look at the magnitude. it is it a mag tuled in more than 10 in terms of the increase. >> yes, and in states that drag their fee

tell the epa to get on the stick. get going, epa.at it will take to make that happenp then you would see private investors have no issue with investing in infrastructure, and it would lap in the way markets normally grow. ashley: you said it perfectly, john. i hope they hear you down to washington and the epa offices. thank you so much for joining us, john hofmeister. >> thank you. ashley: we have so much natural gas and he's right. there are growing number of large vehicles that are using natural gas now, and so much cheaper and better for the environment too. although some environmentalists will argue that because they say it creates more greenhouse gases. however much cheaper. don't have to rely on imports and pay all the known you have to -- money you have to pay to fill up your big machine. that is a good thing. tracy: if you want to get rid of that, get rid of aqua net hairspray. ashley: good idea. tracy: they're supposed to be the smartest guys on wall street but they're underperforming the broader market. liz macdonald will l

melissa: well, that's interesting because just in the past week or so i think it was the epa said theye back over the data, and when they looked at the emissions that came from fracking, they were actually 20% lower than they had previously thought. so maybe if the epa is softening its stance on fracking, which, i mean, this was their study, their paper. they're the ones that came out and said it. maybe that would give california's governor cover to rake in some of in the money? >> that's a great point, melissa, and it's a key one because we've heard for many months now from the hard left, the green left, sierra club, greenpeace, etc., claiming these huge numbers of natural gas emissions into the atmosphere because it's a more potent natural gas than co2, they were claiming it was just as bad as coal. in fact, this new data shows much lower emissions than they expected. melissa: right. >> it's clear, natural gas is having very positive impacts on the environment if we can just let it run. melissa: yeah, we'll see. robert bryce, thanks for coming on. >> thanks, melissa. melissa: boeing'

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epa, home lean security. the overlapping regulation on these facilities is huge.ou have the regulations of a local area and state regulations. so, you have more regulations than now need. >> neil: thank you very, very much. we're taking you to waco texas. this is about, oh, 20 miles south of the affected storm area where the explosion happened about a week ago. senator cornyn will be introducing the president who just a couple hours ago was celebrating with president bush and the other living ex-presidents to commemorate his predecessor's library opening, and now a much more somber affair. think about it. this president, whether you like him or not, left or right, he has more often than not been drawn into that other role we give a president, whether we like it or not, as consoler in chief. the right words. other presidents have when it comes to that moment. whether it's a case of virginia tech or dating back to ronald reagan. after the challenger explosion, just finding the right words and the right message for people affected. but, for this president at this tim