is the epa -- has the epa ever made a mistake? >> i'm quite sure. >> do you think any of those mistakes have led to a job loss? >> i cannot answer that question, we do our best to not make mistakes in the first place. it shows that job loss is not a consequence of environmental rule. >> i just want to make sure that you understand -- i don't think that there is a will in congress to do away with the epa. we hear that a lot. and i don't think that there is a will to do that. but i do think that many of us here recognize that the epa has helped to lead the way for clean air and clean water, but there is reaching a point somewhere in the balance that -- we just want the epa to be more responsible and to be more receptive to the impact that the decisions are having on families. and i think that you are missing the point. two examples with that include the timing of your additional regulations and the second is the use of improper or flawed models that you are using. just touching on the timing issues. there is an adage that we use and

epa's interpretation is unreasonable because it would bring about an expansion of the epa's regulatory authority. do you think this rule brings about an expansion of your regulatory -- the rule that we're talking about here today? >> correct. >> senator, if i can respond -- >> just respond to that question. >> i believe the rule we proposed and that we're going through comment on today is squarely based on our authority in the clean air act. >> what provision of the clean air act? >> sections 111 b and 111 d. >> have you read the analysis of your authority? >> i'm not sure -- >> the congressional research service, they did an analysis of your authority on this regulation and the questions that crs had with your authority, have you read that? >> i don't believe it suggests that we don't have the authority. >> it did. it looked at a number of areas. if the epa office can we response to this analysis of the regulation, and your sport under the clean area act to do that. >> we would be happy to do that. >> now let me get back to what the supreme court mentioned. it mentioned when the epa u

the figs case was massachusetts versus epa. and the third was utility air resources group, the epa. >> don't you have to follow the law. >> we do. >> we've got the largest number of people. we're up to 38 million people. >> i'm going to put in the record the actual votes. six people were absent. they asked that their sfwengss be entered into the record. we actually had 54 votes at that time. we didn't have the 0. but we had a majority. >> in this recent debate, with the support of the chairman. and 59-40, the hovan amendment that says climate change is caused by human 5:00 tifrty. it was fit bustered. >> i have 40. let me tell you who's included who aid the same thing. reufers, ap. plit cole. u.s. a today. there was no question that all of these out lets rorted this. not because they were reported fur any other plan e particular reason other that be this is the truth. this is a fact. you can't make this stuffer up. we know that climate change increases ozone in some cases. so when you're scleebing uch the carbon, you're really

starting in january 2014 epa issued three proposals. these rules will set standards for co 2 emissions from new, existing and modified and reconstructed fossil fuel powered plants. as we announced the epa intends to finalize these rules by mid summer 2015. epa's stakeholder outreach and public engagement in preparation has been unprecedented and resulted in an unprecedented amount of public input. we are reviewing the comments received on the proposal and the more than 3.5 million comments on the proposal for existing and modified and reconstructive sources. as we work our way through the comments what is completely apparent is not only the time and effort that states and many stakeholders have put into developing their input but the importance that we as a country place on moving forward to address climate change. this input is especially important given the important role the states will play in this program. we have received comment on a range of crucial issues from the investments these rules might require to maintain reliability wh

did the epa objected that? >> vpa certainly is looking to be able, not just epa but across the administration to provide opportunities to continued advancement of the technology and to ensure that coal gets cleaner upper time so as part of the clean energy future. >> because these countries are building state-of-the-art power plants without ccs shouldn't we allow them to build them in the united states? >> i know they are heavily investing in a variety of things. >> they are investing in coal and getting out of other energy sources because their energy sources they can't afford them anymore. they are so subsidized by the government the government can afford to pay the citizens can afford to pay for the power so they are going back to lower costs in energy and that's the truth. i want to switch gears though and talk about another subject. i was a medical doctor before it was in congress about medical incinerators and this has to do not just with ebola but other things. one of the recommendations by the cdc in tr

that hurts smaller communities even more with reduced staffing levels in both epa and r.d. where appropriate is important. but the only way those are going to happen is if you have people like the circuit riders and the technical assistance providers for rcap that are out working with those communities on a day in day out basis to work through those issues. one of the things rather quickly because my timetion running out is you talk about tools. i'd like to give credit toechlt pa for developing the variety of tools and working with rural development on tools. asset management tools tools to look at sustainability for communities. again, tools are important to be developed for use by small communities but it takes someone in the field like a rural water or an rcap person to bring those tools out to these communities. maybe this could be handled in the questions. i know you're interested in wifia and some of the other alternative financing programs. i'd be glad to talk about that also. my time's up, though. so i really appreciate the opportunity to be here with you today. >>

many small communities have received violations for the epa regulations. it is a result of the water to make it safe to drink. day limit or reduce the disinfectant levels that would comply with the regulation. but the water may no longer be safe to drink in many small communities are forced to spend limited resources to report revelations to consumers the committee was under a boil water order over six months because of a broken coordinator. the local schools had to buy bottled water for six months after they called the mississippi rolled water association they're able to come up with the plan to come up with a new accord new dairy and revive the program to come up with the plan to revise the program to accurately assess the water to receive the payments with the emergency state revolving. in closing whenever you facing a compliance issue with the epa rule is causing people to lose water service in emergency from power loss to tell us what it means it and what to do. to develop the trust relationship with small communities that know how to fix things to co

army corps of engineers -- the epa and u.s. army corps of engineers that required clarification on the rules and encouraged the agent to continue consulting with the states as they go back and take a look at the proposed rules. the clean water act and clean air act recognized the states have a statutory authority to establish that within their borders. they last week take the lead and we do. states must have a strong voice in the development of any rule gated under these particularly in the early stages of rule development and for significant momentum precludes state participation or renders it not meaningful. opportunities to gain federal perspectives are important and informative. so we appreciate you being here today, but the fact is it doesn't take the place of a consultation process with the states. now i will pass over to governor malloy. q. it's great to be with you once again. i am not new to the city. in the four years previous to being here, i was either chair or vice chair of the committee three times, so i am happy

she had already established herself as an extraordinary assistant administrator at the epa. however, and it was certainly understandable, she was reluctant to leave the administration, and she has stayed here in washington, d.c., bringing real change and international recognition to reverse -- to her efforts. there are a few people who can match her candor openness. if you get to know her, her humor, her capacity for hard work. as they say in boston, she is wicked smart, and her passion for leaving this planet in a better place than she founded in his only perhaps exceeded by her love of the red exceeded by her love of the red sox. where i draw the line. >> thank you. thank you for trying to entice me. it was a very kind gesture on your part, and i know you are doing just fine with the folks you have, because you have a great. thank you to all of the governors we have today, and more are joining all of the time. thank you for joining us or breakfast. again, it was a wonderful opportunity to establish a deeper relationship with one another, because i think we need that in tim

i would like to see epa focused on current responsibilities before taking on new ones.h the new ozone rule even though it is well behind schedule implementing the existing standards and that makes this problematic program is made even difficult i remember your testimony last year we thought we would have an answer last spring. for your testimony presents an opportunity of common ground for example, to raise the rule on coal ash to go one step further with the permit authority to make sure the standards are enforced also to work much better for the states to have a benchmark to meet and managed the implementation. also for the people responsible handling the combustion residuals everyday that are given the opportunity with the regulatory certainty that they need but last year they had reform overlap so let's work together on a good bipartisan legislation to improve safety through the interstate market for chemicals and products. thanks for being with us today. i yield back. >> now recognize the ranking member from new jersey for three minutes. >> thank you for being here

what is the epa doing to address this issue? >> senator, this rule is about the fossil fuel-fired electricity generation. that's the sector that emits the air pollutants that we are authorized to address. so looking at the types of emission reduction approaches that the fossil fuel-fired generation fleet can adopt -- >> can you say that again? you don't have to. >> thank you. we identify some key approaches that those industries -- that that industry is now taking shifting to less carbon intensive, renewable and that sort of thing. this is not an energy plan. that's not administrator mccarthy's job. we understand the significant role that nuclear power generation plays in the country and that it itself is subject to various pressures and issues. and we want to make sure that states who have invested in nuclear energy and wish to do so that that can be a significant compliance option for states, and it will be. we had received a lot of comment on the exact question you that asked, about how we figured that into the targets and we

the schedule that you see before you, the epa brownsfield grant was submitted in december and submit on the submitted our resource grant. there is a citywide transportation study going on that will inform our park planning process that we're excited to participate in and we're currently participating in. the process will start in play. tight area testing will start this month and go through june. the designer selection process will happen over the summer and then we hope to submit our planning documents in the spring. if we receive the remediation funds we hope to begin working with hunter point family in october of 2016. lastly i would like to say this contract is supported by hunters point family and supervisor cohen's office and there are several folk here to speak to the issue. >> thank you, commissioners. that is where we were headed. >> okay. go ahead. >> good afternoon, here on behalf of supervisor cohen and to say a few words on award of the contract. we have done a lot of work with trust for public land and they have invested. they know how the community works and the commun

the epa and the cia. they did something really extraordinary read the government has never done this and never will again. here is what they discovered. he does not work for the cia. he had been going on for 11 years. do you know what his specialty is? global warming. he has been doing this for 11 years. they finally fired him. is going to prison, if he is not already. on the way out they could not do it in the proper way. anybody would have fired him. he would not be eligible for pensions. even on the way out they could not do the right thing. i'm imagining what this guy's life must've been like. is boss calls him, jonathan, we have not seen you. are you coming in? i imagine him at his house. i imagine he has a swimming pool. he makes $150,000 a year. 100,000 people make under that a year. i imagine he is drinking a beer, he is in his lounge. the boss calls him. here is his response. no, i'm in istanbul on a secret assignment. [laughter] they get to the point where they are going to fire him. the north t

>> i might note that some states o' -- epa regulates water quality. they don't regulate capacity requirements. and some states require that you have a certain well production, surface water treatment plant, storage and pumping capacities. in a lot of cases those adversely affect small communities because they're not really -- they're not on an engineering basis justified on the basis of how much water is being used. >> for example, in grown county where they're dealing with things like small water line extensions not necessarily water quality but that has to do with water delivery. is that what you're saying? >> exactly p. the capacity requirements whether it's pumping or storage elevated ground storage tanks, sometimes those capacity requirements are a little higher than i think -- to what's needed to protect public health. >> what this gets into lets me come back to that. how much could the heightened standards cost rural drinking water systems if we make some changes in here? will it affect -- i heard some of you alluding to cost issues here. mr. k

state water which is why introduced to the aqua activist congress to improve all of the tools that epa has to assist the systems. i appreciate the work that my colleagues for mississippi have done on these issues and i look forward to working with him to get some of the changes into the wall. it seems every week in my district there's another water main break played treated water into the money we've invested is being wasted so it's dollars and water flowing out of the pipes. can you describe some of the issues you have had in your town with water main breaks and the obstacles you face in preventing these ruptures clacks. >> well when we have a water main break it doesn't always just pop up through the because the ground is soaked frozen so we don't often over the break is and we don't have the tools or equipment to locate the break so we have to either call the consulting firm that could be $1500 a day to come with special tools or we call the water association and if they are available they will come. it's very difficult and we don't always know where the breaks are located. >> it's

under the safe drinking water act the supply systems are subject to regulations issued by the epa. it includes monitoring and treatment to remove certain contaminants requires managerial capabilities that are developing often beyond on this same scale as urban centers when it comes to regulatory compliance. where residents work hard to support the families and local governments earning wages below counterparts in the more urbanized area with the demands that our disproportionate sometimes it is a matter to have the ability to keep up with their red tape. while all we'll be explored the funding mechanisms the agricultural department it is not just a matter to grow more money at the problem but to assess the needs for these systems to prioritize the importance of the needs and to find out whether they're current system can be improved to remove unnecessary burdens to examine if voluntary efforts were congress cannot and those witnesses that put their lives on hold to battle the elements enjoyed as those illiberal communities deserve every bit of technical resources as those who live

we used epa offices because that is -- >> that is not really a great answer there. i'm not trying to be antagonistic. that is not such a great answer. you can get to west virginia, we're not that isolated. it is a beautiful spoft. but that heavily impacted the economics of our state and our ability to compete. we are getting all of the time, you have to transition out of coal, you have to make a change all of these kinds of thing and use ccs, clean coal technology it is not economically feasible and it hasn't been proven to be run in a efficient and cost-efficient way. we are beyond that. do i want that? yes. because that will help my state tremendously. so let's push forward on the research and development. quick question in the final analysis of the 32 states that have lodged major objections, if the states refuse to submit a plan what is the epa's reaction to that. >> i could answer that. and if i could say, we got comments from a lot of people and because this is a proposed rule, everybody tells us things they think we can do better. >> right. that sounds like u

imagine if it imposed today's epa rolls or even 1970 epa rule for everyone but i of cold and starvation right? it would be something wrong with that and the issue is that pollution is a right to we think of it as a rights violation where you're doing physical harm to somebody but it's not pollution if it's something that is completely essential and unavoidable in person life. so at any given what's nice is that at any given stage of technology you can set higher and higher bars for what innocents can lower bars for pollution because you core technology. today we can say it should be illegal to have a coal plants that they used to have. because we have the technology. the point is that the threshold of what is and isn't pollution isn't economic and technological phenomenon to the ultimate goal must be what is the full context of what improves human life. that goes to something like fossil fuels, fossil fuels are the only energy technology that could possibly scale in the near future next several decades to provide energy for 7 billion people. whatever you say about them and i should impr

tom: now to capitol hill, the head of the epa testifying on clean drinking water.congressman from pennsylvania is in d.c. is the epa getting a new area they will be able to regulate? >> thanks for having me on. two points. number one. every member of congress, republican and democrat wants to have clean water and we want to make sure laws are in place to make sure we have a clean drinking supply of water. second, to your question, the epa and the president once again are trying to put a will allowed to change the definition from navigable waterways to water to the united states which will give them the power to virtually go anywhere in the united states even dry places if there happens to the water there occasionally to regulate that. what they are doing fundamental the is breaking the partnership between the federal government state government and local government which has been in place for years trying to figure out the best way to proceed and protect the water source in every state. every state has a different water source and that is something we have to maint

and the job killing things the epa does.m okay if they want to watch porn. >> you are saying go ahead and let them watch porn. >> if it means they are not doing government work, then ya. >> an interesting angle. you used to watch porn on live wire. you told us before the taping. is your porn uh decks the reason you went -- addiction the reason you went into the stand up economy? >> i was living a double life. they are like, dude you have to get help. >> that shows you can control yourself. it says you had a special browser for not watching porn, right? >> yes. >> it shows you are not watching it 24/7. >> if it is a cyber security threat they shouldn't watch porn. if north korea got through they say who was watching slutty house 7. >> you are focus owed north korea. >> i am scared. and i have a fascination with asians. >> are you one of those women who pretend that girls like porn too? >> equal opportunity. i am. i would not want to say it is just men. it might not be and i don't want to place judgment. that's it. you said ab

but we actually can't turn the boilers on because they are litigating with the epa. is the federal government and epa regulation and that is truly the problem. neil: it's always good to have you, thank you so much. meanwhile, all you republicans out there. screwing up this whole executive order thing. we have more after this congratulations. you're down with crestor. yes! when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. crestor is not for people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor all medicines you take. call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of serious side effects. i'm down with crestor! make your move. ask your doctor about crestor. neil: all right get ready for shut down 2.0? not quite, but looking at the headlines i'm not sure. former mississippi governor, said that republicans should not take the bait, but they should be aware.

imagine if they had imposed today's epa rules or each 1970 epa rules. everyone would die of cold and starvation. there'd be something wrong with that. and the issue is that pollution is a right is a -- we think of it as a rights violation where you're doing physical harm to somebody, but it's not pollution if it's something that's completely essential and unavoidable in pursuing life. so at any given -- what's nice is at any given stage of technology you can set higher and higher bars for what's -- or, in a sense lower bars for pollution because you have more technology. so today we can say absolutely it should be illegal to have the coal plants that they used to have right? because we have the technology. so the point is that the threshold of what is and isn't pollution is an economic and tech -- technological issue of what improves human life. and that goes to something like fossil fuels. fossil fuels are the only energy technology that could possibly scale in the near future next several decades, to provide energy for seven billion people. so whateve

so no major scandals at all, the epa, doj, nsa, hhs, irs, atf.aren't scandals they're one hell of an eye chart. the real scandal is this two-headed beast. one of ideology and one of accomplice. a mix of toxic ideologies immunized by fan boys in the media. if a progressive breaks the law in a forest full of media suck-ups, did it really happen? the scandal isn't obama's actions but those whose job was to report them. instead they knitted their own blindfolds. to them each scandal was progress. so sorry, dave. saying no major scandal is like saying no major pregnancies. especially when the media is your own personal planned parenthood. >> wow! there's a lot going on there. >> there was a lot going on there. i'm a little hungover. k.g., is this what you'd expect though? like can you blame axelrod? this is his side. it's his political ideology and that trumps truth. >> last time i checked, he wasn't on the payroll. what's the excuse? i actually prefer the honesty that we've seen from people like leon panetta others that haven't been afraid to come ou

even so, this letter from the epa to the state of california demonstrates the epa is quite concerned and it says it wants the state to take action now to stop this practice. we'll stay on this story. jessica, raj? >> thank you, stephen. >>> an uneasy night on the campus of san francisco state. police are warning students and staff members to stay alert after a woman was attacked. nbc bay area's christie smith is at san francisco state with details of this campus assault. christie? >> reporter: well good evening to you. administrators quickly fired off an e-mail alert to let them know what was being done after a woman says she was a victim of a sexual battery by a man she didn't know here on campus. as you can imagine, it's shaken people up. >> i woke up this morning. >> reporter: she let her friend know about a sexual attack reported on campus near where she had walked last night. >> there's usually light so it's never really scary. and then i got the alert this morning and i was like oh my god, if i had walked an hour later, then i probably would have witnessed it or i probably woul

the epa and the cia. they did something really extraordinary read the government has never done this and never will again. they asked somebody at the cia. have you heard of jonathan veale? they said who? here is what they discovered. he does not work for the cia. he had been going on for 11 years. do you know what his specialty is? global warming. he has been doing this for 11 years. they finally fired him. is going to prison, if he is not already. on the way out they could not do it in the proper way. anybody would have fired him. he would not be eligible for pensions. even on the way out they could not do the right thing. i'm imagining what this guy's life must've been like. is boss calls him, jonathan, we have not seen you. are you coming in? i imagine him at his house. i imagine he has a swimming pool. he makes $150,000 a year. 100,000 people make under that a year. i imagine he is drinking a beer, he is in his lounge. the boss calls him. here is his response. no, i'm in istanbul on a secret assignmen

the epa and the cia. they did something really extraordinary read the government has never done this and never will again. they asked somebody at the cia. have you heard of jonathan beale? they said who? here is what they discovered. he does not work for the cia. he had been going on for 11 years. do you know what his specialty is? global warming. he has been doing this for 11 years. they finally fired him. is going to prison, if he is not already. on the way out they could not do it in the proper way. anybody would have fired him. he would not be eligible for pensions. even on the way out they could not do the right thing. i'm imagining what this guy's life must've been like. is boss calls him, jonathan, we have not seen you. are you coming in? i imagine him at his house. i imagine he has a swimming pulled. he makes $150,000 a year. 100,000 people make under that a year. i imagine he is drinking a beer, he is in his lounge. the boss calls him. here is his response. no, i'm in istanbul on a secret assignm

. >> we tried to get answers from the nuclear commission, and the epa, and the doe, and thennsa, and the whole alphabet soup of state and federal agencies that have been involved, more than 50 years ago, not a single bun would go on come camera to explain why dumping was allowed. and why after three decades it is still there. >> i frankly don't believe that anybody did anything wrong, but the regulations were as they were and the temp was placed there, to the best of our meteorologist, under the rules of the aatomic energy commission. so was eight good idea? i can't say it wasn't there. the first attempt started in the fall of 2011, but halted after just a few weeks. the core says workers uncovered unexpected complex materials at the sight. >> let me start over again thank you for coming we have a good crowd. >> now the consider says it is ready to try again. but the clean up will cost over $400 million nearly ten times the previous estimate. >> this is once again looks like ground hog day, we have been having these meetings for 20 years the former mayor of the town next to the dump

>> to be clear it is regulated by epa under the current law. we set the current regulations you know we are having all these reductions under current regulations. i would argue epa does not need another new regulation. >> thank you. i think my time is up. >> thank you. and we're now going to turn to senator gardiner. i will be excusing myself from the committee right now. we are going to start vote you very shortly, and senator cantwell will be a4a period. we want to make sure we get through all members and have an opportunity before the ethics it's going to be a little bit choppy from here on out and i apologize i won't be able to hear your further comments. but please know how much i appreciate what you have provided the committee today. this is a very important issue. i think we would recognize that and again i appreciate the level of cooperation that we've had. and i think a place where we have a compromise bill that i think will be helpful to the country. with that i will turn to senator gardiner, and he will be followed by senator franken

hesitant because of the epa? host: note is not because the epa.uest:host: we have one minute left before the house comes in. caller: i have a question. you're talking about isis. his isis bothering the major communist countries like russia and china? you never hear anything on the news about them having issues. it always just seems to be the last. my second question is -- in the state of california and out the west there, they have had major droughts. are they doing anything to build a plant that changes salt water into fresh water to maybe help alleviate things? host: we got those. guest: california has actually working with israel to build those plans in california. in terms of your first question isil has not just attacked one country. they will attack any country that is not their particular sect. there have executed japanese hostages. they recently burned a jordanian pilot. that is why jordan is involved in dispatching ground forces. you have the uae sending fighter planes. you need to have the regional allies and regional neighbors dealing w

i was watching a video of a man from an institute talking to the epa. they were talking about taxes from the infrastructure to build these hoses -- houses for the illegal immigrants. they were going to hijack it for transit and stuff like indeed choi and different cities what they call future cities. i have the video and i will put on youtube if you do not know about it. please answer and tells about that. thank you. host: do you know anything about this? guest: i do not know. i think there is a larger conversation happening in this country about the roles of cities. the role that infrastructure plays to make anything productive in a sustainable environment for these areas. we have a couple of hesitation conversations around sustainability and things that they are tried to push. by putting all this together and putting mayors in the driver seat, it really changes. as chris was saying, what they're looking for something very specific. they have the polls on what cities need and the emphasis on sustainability and economic health. it is a very different co

epa now lists over 30 chemicals found in tire chrome which the epa finds to be cancer-causing target compounds. i believe that we all agree this commission needs to alter its course of action. i also believe that we would agree that we need to publicly address these new developments. the commission and rpd should take a stand, i believe, and speak up and restate its current position with regard to the use of the toxic chemical. i think we agree doing otherwise would be irresponsible to do the least and risk endangering the citizens of san francisco. thank you. >> next speaker. >> again, could we please get everyone to take a seat who is not speaking on this item? there are seats over here go ahead. >> hi. i am also speaking on the beach -- i'm a soccer coach and soccer player and soccer mom and i'm taking a few minutes away from my work to comment on the inprogress construction at the formerly glass facility where i was happily playing and coaching until last fall, with we removed the levee. i fear the city entrenched -- while other cities are looking to protect against the carcinoge

what does the epa do? it goes after your wood burning stove.tical capabilities that make edward jones one of the biggest financial services firms in the country? or is it 13,000 financial advisors who take the time to say thank you? 'night jim. gonna be a while? i am liz got a little writing to do. ♪ it's why edward jones is the big company that doesn't act that way. >> cme group new york and chicago, and scott shellady is with me. are you going to switch to farming? >> in the options pit, they are open, to moving them to the financial room. options only and the futures which futures, gone 100%. isn't that right? and rather than that. >> options trading the s&p 500 open as well. >> that will stay open as well and a few other small ones. a broad brush stroke, and options are open up side. >> is it because options, so many strategies you do with bond? >> i would have thought that would be a good excuse. the life exchange, 100% and they're big contract does very well in an electronic environment on the options side. the membership structure differ

there was a case called utility versus epa that was decided last summer. and in that case the supreme court basically said look, one of the reasons why the carbon tailoring robe violate separation of powers, and to did violate separation of powers come is because the epa is promulgated a regulation that flies in the face of years of understand what the clean air act was bought to give the authority to the epa to do as a regulatory matter. it's the same thing, the same form of construction of congresses will should take place in this case. >> in conclusion it's the people that decide the division between the three branches of government and i think you need to declare war on the enemies of the constitution. >> the gentleman from ohio uzbekistan and the gentleman from florida mr. desantis is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. professor, i want to make sure i have the right. obama's statements and fixed it 20 times he didn't have the authority. you're saying he just that he didn't have the authority to suspend all deportation, is that i could? >> i think

the epa is totally killing the consumer. right now the individual is facing the cold, really cold weather. their bills are going up electric and gas. partly because the epa is just killing them. they're not allowed to burn coal. the other thing is 5% of the energy being produced by solar and wind is no way enough but if we shut it all off today, we would all be frozen. you need other types of energies and they can cover that gap it is coming into people's bills. some people are going to be shut off because they can't afford the new bills with the epa regulations that didn't go through congress. that they just decide to smack them in there. power plants are sitting idle. they could be running and getting more heat and more back a. to. i wind up and listen to your answers post a bob deans, natural resources defense council. >> guest: i think what you are referencing is department of protection agencies trying to clean up our dirty power plants that account for 40% of the carbon pollution that is driving climate change in this

partly because the epa is just killing them. they are not allowed to burn coal.he other thing is 5% of the energy being produced by solar and wind is no way and off. if we shut it all off today, we would all be frozen. we need other types of energies. it is coming into people's bills. some people are going to be shut off because they can afford the new bills with the epa regulations that didn't go through congress. they just decided the spectrum in there. power plants are sitting idle. they could be running and getting more heat and more backup. i will hang up and listen to your answer. peter: bob deans, the natural resources defense council. guest: thanks very much, rich. i think you are recognizing the obama administration tried to clean up our dirty carbon plants -- power plants. we need to do that. but the industry has been about the business for some time of shifting away from coal and towards cleaner types of sources. 44% of all the new electric generating capacity in our country in the past three years has come from wind and sun. 44%. these are decisions t

heart of the ordinance relate relates to either a engine or verified emission strategy the acronym the epa and california resources started to reblth the amount of regulations from the 190's this chart illustrates there are four tier levels the equipment becomes cleaner and the standards stricker i want to highlight tier two the existing ordinance this is applied to new engines on not applying to existing equipment but existing equipment lasts 15 to 25 years it has been adapted a separate regulation. >> do you have a copy of your presentation. >> i do. >> can i have it please. yes yes. >> sorry i know some of the numbers on this chart maybe a little bit hard to read the numbers are not as important as illustrating the point of the different standards that apply to new engines over the equipment it has gone cleaner i was mentioning for this only applies to new engines and existing equipment there's a regulation that went into effect just last year i'm going i'm not sure e i'm sorry 2013 companies will closely clean up their equipment's one of the ways through the verified emission control s

you look at regulation, the epa. you can't move. you can't do anything. everything you want to do is stopped. you have to do that. i would build a tremendously strong military. our military has been -- has been let go and has been let go badly. you know, being in the real estate business, all the time, i get these list cans for army bases for sale. i said aren't we can go to have any army basis all the time? so many basis are for sale. i say what are we going to do about it? the vets. i would straighten out that whole mess. these vets are great people, amazing people. i would straighten out that mess like you wouldn't believe and i would be in there fasts and i would be working iran. i would help israel big league. there wouldn't be speeches made behind my back. i would help israel out big league. iran has bad intentions. when you look at this is negotiating 101. you look at a president who is negotiating and he drops the safrningsdz. i would have said, triple up the sanctions. so now they are not doing anything. they are not coming to a good conclusion a

so i think what we need to do we don't need a commerce we don't need a education, we don't need the epa we don't need. pass states. leapt the states compete against each other. let the customers go to those states. do business in those states. live in those states like they say they want to be. >> why do i need an energy department? >> oh, my god. >> up have an energy derpt in texas if you leave us alone. >> the energy department leave the nuclear weapons alone. does the energy department produce more energy? seems to me the energy department produced more obstacles to drilling and fracking which again is iphone stuff i call it and energy department is a mimeograph machine. would you take a whack at the energy department? >> one of the things that i think we are -- the short answer is yes. but one of the things we're plagued by is a lot of managers in politics they exist in business as well a lot of managers, the congressman excepted but a lot of managers who tinker around the edges of problems. they accept what's always been there because it's always been that way. we cannot accept it

and the epa war on american energy must and. -- must end. [applause] tonight, allow me to offer some advice. some advice to the rising generation of leaders who are gathered here and looking on from across the country. might confront the challenges we face with renewed focus. submit that 2016 could be the first foreign policy national election since 1980. administration has reduced our army to its smallest size since 1940. the navy has fewer ships and our air force has its smallest tactical fighter force in history. history teaches you cannot reduce our military strength without provoking our enemies. weakness arouses evil. speak, it is across the world. says jobs are the answer to violent jihad. johnresident, jihadi doesn't want a job. he wants to see paradise. and i think we should help him get there as quickly as possible. [applause] and with the growing threat of homegrown terror, it's important to remember our first line of defense is the right of self-defense. the right to ever, keep and bear arms must not be infringed on the american

the epa suggest it would impose a cost of $15 billion per year on the nation not including california. another $106 billion per year on california alone. the national association of manufacturers shows a new ozone regulation threatens to be the most expensive ever imposed on industry in america. at 65 the ozone standard board pushed a large swath into non attainment with their quality standards with more localities to curb production to manufacture development and agricultural operations and economic growth. crude oil exports could also help producers shore up the economics of production and to give access to foreign markets is the topic that is just starting to be discussed and there have been several studies that projected positive benefits to the u.s. for exports to occur and the community has some questions about what that policy might mean for them. and on the hill is an issue the received increasing attention. these are just some examples of the regulatory burdens that have been unnecessarily there plenteous of others like hydraulic fracturing are planned methane rules are the e