and also what's happening inside the epa, youoij know -- >> and that's the real )ut(s >> i mean, that's, and it's being sort of hollowed out. >> 9w?÷÷gentlemen, thank you bot being with us. late on a hot, rainy thursday night full of news here in new york. >> it stopped raining, by the way. >> eugene, rick, two of our favorites, thank you. >>> when we come back after a break, we'll look at where our nation stands in our world as best we can assess it at this hour. but i'm not standing still... and with godaddy, i've made my ideas real. ♪ i made my own way, now it's time to make yours. ♪ everything is working, just like it should ♪ >>> last thing before we go tonight, as a reminder of where we are, where we are tonight, in fact, where we are as a nation and as a people, and as our example, we'd like to use the front page of "the new york times", we(jw@ kind of froze it time around 9:00 p.m. eastern time this evening, beginning with a three-column headline. trump acknowledges porn starçno payoff. just let that roll around in your head for a moment. that's a first for our presidency, and a