. >> rose: who is ephram. >> ephram is a guy. >> rose: tell me who he is. >> ephram is a very reptilian figure. >> rose: reptilian. >> yes, in movement and in ability to sort of chameleon kind of guy. whatever person he needs to impress in the room, he can become the person that kim press that person, you know. and he doesn't really have a high moral compass, i don't think. but he is so tenacious that he's the kind of person you meet in life. you may not want to be best friends with but you walk away going wow that guy's going to be successful, whether i agree with how he become successful is one thing but that's where it will end up being. >> rose: how does he pull it off. >> manipulation, intelligence. >> rose: the ability to persuade. >> yes, yes. >> rose: appear to be what he is not. >> the ability of manipulation and fierce intelligence can be very dangerous. >> and confidence. the ultimate confidence that i think jonah really portrayed him really well in this film. >> rose: you got to have confidence to do that. >> you got to have confidence and you got to have swagger. >> rose: c

video shows nypd officers struggling with ephram. revolver and fired it. minutes earlier he had thrown guzman out of his store across the street. he went out to warn others about what happened and that's when he was shot. >>> in the race for president, donald trump says he did not intend to incite any violence, but he warned of possibility of hillary clinton picking judges is spark controversy. >> if she gets to pick her es folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is, i don't know. >> trump's speech yesterday in north carolina true democratic party outrage, they call it a thinly veiled threat against clinton. later on trump insists that he just wanted on mobilize voters. >> obviously you're saying that there is a strong political movement within the second amendment. >> nobody in that room thought anything other than what you just said. >> at another rally later in the >> hillary clinton's campaign says what trump is saying is dangerous. a person seeking to be the president of the united states should not suggest violence in any way. today

charlie: who is at ephram? tell me who he is. jonah: i think he is a very reptilian figure.'t have a moral compass. he is so tenacious he's the kind of person you meet and you may not want to be best friends with but you walk away going that guy is going to be successful whether i agree with how he become successful, that is what he will end up being. charlie: how does he pull it off? jonah: manipulation, intelligence. charlie: the ability to persuade and appear what he is not. todd: the ultimate confidence which jonah portrayed very well in this film. charlie: you have to have confidence. todd: and swagger. charlie: and a little bit of insanity. if you knew what you were getting into you wouldn't get into it. jonah: and a little fake tanner. charlie: missing is your costar. miles teller. todd: miles was a young actor i worked with, project x. he was in it for a short bit. we were talking about working together. this was in his early writings stages. he was in whiplash. he killed it. we put them in the room together. he felt like the right guy. he wanted to be here but he is