>> rabbi epstein? >> yes. >> rabbi mendel epstein, a respected religious leader and advocate for women in jewish courts. and he's more than happy to help a client whose sister has a deadbeat husband. >> we're having a very, very difficult time with this man. we're getting a little bit desperate and very frustrated. >> the good rabbi will provide another service if you know what to ask for. >> frankly. >> we're looking for some options at this point in time. >> i don't think this is a phone conversation. right, am i correct? and you understand what we're talking about is we're going to need some strategic planning, you know, using a nice word. >> but mendel epstein did was when a husband refused to grant his wife a get, he would, in some cases, for tens of thousands of dollars, have that man kidnaped and beaten up until he agreed to give his wife a get. >> first comes a formal sit down in epstein's office. >> i'll go through the process and what we'll do. we could force him to give again. >> but when ep

the epstein files are just one example of recent doj missteps. here now is cnn's chief legal affairs correspondent, paula reid, and cnn legal analyst elliot williams. paul, first to you. what are you learning about how the white house press office is taking over the justice department? >> look, i've covered the. >> justice department. >> for over a decade. >> and what we're seeing that is unusual here is that the communications, the public affairs, a department that handles everything from key administration priorities to press conferences on elder fraud, it's all being run through the white house. that is unusual. it's also, though, an example of how president trump really wants to limit the traditional independence of the department of justice. now, of course, we talked to elliot. he'll explain why that's a problem. if you spoke to the president, he would say that he just doesn't trust people inside doj to do his messaging. so he wants his own people like stephen miller to have a role in this. we're told miller has a significant role in craftin

up next losing trust after the epstein files bustt wh.cal white provides two shades whiter teeth as well as providing 24/7 sensitivity protection. patients are going to love to see sensodyne on the shelf. i had the worst dream last night. you were in a car crash and the kids and i were on our own. that's awful, hon. my brother was saying he got life insurance from ethos. and he got $2 million in coverage, all online. life insurance made easy. check your price today at ethos.com. >> a story in five words. >> greg: epstein files were a bust. emily, this is just so frustrating. the doj said it was releasing the epstein files yesterday but it was a big nothing. most of it was redacted and what was released was stuff i think i have already seen when i was on the plane it. [laughter] many times. what is going on here? were you disappointed? >> i was disappointed and i thought it was extremely disrespectful to not only the victims involved about their families. and i felt like even some people on the right it was just a little bit tacky and dist

did jeffrey epstein have a ufo they flew on too? laughter ] who could possibly be implicated that plays a role in our national security? >> would you declassify the 9/11 files? >> yeah. >> would you declassify jfk files? >> yeah. i did a lot of it. >> would you declassify the epstein files? >> yeah, yeah, i would. i guess i would. >> jimmy: i wish i could see the little hamster wheel turning in his head right then. [ laughter ] "get me my sharpie! i may need to redact some things!" let's be honest, the reason this is taking so long is because trump and jeffrey epstein spent more time on planes together than the wright brothers. [ laughter ] they will release diddy before they release all the epstein files unredacted. [ laughter ] one thing they are releasing is thousands of federal workers. elon and the doge bros have been reportedly using a.i. to decide which federal employees to fire, which is interesting, because someone used elon's own a.i. engine, which is called grok, to answer the following question. they wrote -- "what is th

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attorney general pam bondi, talk about epstein and a lot more. breaking tonight, the united states is pausing all military aid to ukraine until the country makes a commitment to good faith peace negotiations. this after the ukrainian president zelenskyy proclaimed that piece is still very far away. to keep in mind that zelenskyy has already been given many opportunities to team up with the u.s. on a peace deal. and according to my numerous sources, he's now asking to come back to the white house and he would now finally sign off on what he should have signed off on last week and that is the rare earth minerals agreement. that would bind our countries together but it's not going to happen when the president of ukraine seems to want war in perpetuity, a war without the u.s. and without european money he could never even fight. on truth social, president trump called the recent comments the worst statement that could have been made and america will not put up with this much longer. this guy doesn't want there to be peace as long as he has america's

we only know about epstein's crimes because of anonymous sources. and so there's so much threatening the first amendment. >> now it's the bedrock of. >> journalism. >> it is the bedrock. and there's so much threatening. the first amendment. >> right. >> now wants it's not just good enough for them to start writing nice things about him. he wants 60 minutes and cbs to go away to be punished. they've already started to try to punish pbs and npr. there are some real concrete ways that they've tried to to go after this. elon musk, who is a huge voice now in this administration, repeatedly accuses news outlets like the new york times of committing crimes for reporting the names of government workers who are carrying out huge policies. >> yeah, and i think that they were on the doge part of the doge team or something. i saw something recently about that. i don't think that that is maga idiots. if you actually look on just twitter alone across the board, even on the left, this idea of the epstein. were you talking about epstein? were you talking about the

the epstein files and 8:00. don't miss those. >> judge jeanine: i hear they're not so exciting. >> greg: they never are. everything is redacted. at least that's what my doctor told me. >> jesse: you had george santos on the show. >> judge jeanine: what's he doing? >> greg: just being his old charming self. i'm tired of this banter. aren't you ?esse w tonight. >> the war. not in a good position. you don't have the cards right now. with us, you start having cards. you're gambling with the lives of millions of people. you're gambling with world war three. >> trump and zelensky get into it. >> this is going to be great television. i will say that. >> what is this experience been like for you as a person? like to deal with all this hate and attack? >> i don't know. it's pretty stressful, actually. i think they actually want to kill me. >> elon wants to get a few things off his chest. >> they don't just want to kill me. they want to desecrate my corpse. >> i used to be a democratic voter. i'm an independent now becaus

outraged after the department of justice releases documents from the jeffrey epstein case. maybe not for the reasons you might imagine% a panel on that and the possibility of a government shutdown. just day so if the federal government running out of money. they are next. (vo) if you're only maxing out a 401k, you can add a robinhood ira with a 3% contribution boost. (nasa pilot vo) roger that. (vo) robinhood gold gives you an instant 3% match on your annual ira contributions. ♪ force factor nad+ longevity complex, promotes healthy aging, provides cellular energy, and supports longevity. force factor nad+ contains nad+ and powerful, clinically researched antioxidants. take control of your health. search amazon now for force factor nad+. >> we are looking for peace. we are not looking for somebody is going to sign up as a stronger power and not make peace because they feel emboldened up or that's what i saw happening. >> is difficult for us, that's why i am here bu that's will spk about the future negotiations. it'itis difficult without your support. shannon: future of u.s.

so, not only will america get the full epstein file silk at jfk, they'll get martin luther king.t is fantastic ice in the southern district of new york is sort has been holding onto this information for a reason. that is they do not like the names on the list. and of course we know new york is a hotbed of the democrat party that includes legal circles. do you think that's part of the issue they are trying to protect a lot of names and individuals? >> you know mark, i have not reviewed the information yet. as a lawyer, as a prosecutor i want to review everything before i make a firm conclusion. but i find it very interesting that they held that from us i will find out who withheld that they will not be working for us anymore. mark: once all that is gathered you're going to put out in the public with the obvious and necessary reductions including the people who were the victims and the phone numbers and so forth. but, for the perpetrators ice and we will see their names, yes? >> will certainly. nothing can be withheld on the as you note grand jury information, anything confidential

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>> shannon: another thing that made headlines not for the reasons we thought it would but the epsteinevelations this week which were not revelations, foxnews.com has his headline. conservatives explode at botched rollout, complete disappointment. >> it is other disappointment. i'm not sure what they were expecting. i don't think we will see these epstein files come out but i do think it's important to talk about this government shutdown because it's a real thing and taking it outside for just a second. i think about maria alvarez who lives in virginia working there for ten years helping the americans navigate complicated federal housing systems and worried about her job right now like many federal employees are. when you think about a government shutdown which could make many not have money but 2, worried about mass firings that could come this week because of elon musk in donald trump who are basically pushing the line on federal executive power while congress sits and applauds this. this is a real, real concern for the american people and i think there is a lot of blame going on but

the epstein files and 8:00. don't miss those. >> judge jeanine: i hear they're not so exciting. >> greg: they never are. everything is redacted. at least that's what my doctor told me. >> jesse: you had george santos on the show. >> judge jeanine: what's he doing? >> greg: just being his old charming self. i'm tired of this banter, aren't you? lisa: hello, everyone. i'm lisa boothe along with joey jones, jason chaffetz, welcome to the big weekend show. ukrainian president zelenskyy in london licking wounds after the oval office smack down with president trump and vp vance. their meeting may have not resulted in a minute rale's deal but had a major impact that everyone is talking about. >> get a ceasefire so the bullets stop flying and men stop getting killed. >> excuse me. >> i gave you the javelins to take out all the tanks and obama give you sheets. got to be more thankful. >> think it's respectful to come to the oval office of the united states of america and attack the administration trying to prevent the de

. >> and what happened with the jeffrey epstein document release. >> or the lack thereof? you may remember it was only about ten files. >> that the attorney general of the united. >> states. >> pam. >> bondi, posted through the justice. >> department on their website. >> then, of course, there was. >> that scene. >> at the white house where you had a. >> number of. >> social media influencers. >> holding up binders. >> the binders said declassified. >> on them. there's no classified. documents that were declassified in the course of releasing it. i had seen most. >> if not all of the. >> documents in court previously. >> i've checked the jeffrey epstein docket. >> and the glenn maxwell docket. >> not that i really needed to. because i remember those trials quite well. >> having covered. >> those. >> proceedings. >> there was no classified information that was supposed to be. presented there. but the ag's explanation of this has been a bit of a winding road over the past couple of days, and people in. law enforcement, frankly, just don't believe the things that she's saying

they're being spent on chasing conspiracy theories about jeffrey epstein.g, inflicting trauma. okay, on the federal workforce and golf at mar-a-lago. the president playing golf today. of course, they're being spent on everything. but you know what? some of these folks said that they voted for. so i would just like to say, america, perhaps we have to have a very hard conversation with ourselves. okay, okay. there are people that are like, oh, i did not i didn't think he was going to do this. the rest of that sentence is to me because he was very clear about what he was going to do. and i would just like to ring the bell. ding ding ding. for the 92%. that said, we tried to tell y'all, so now we need to. it wasn't about the eggs. it couldn't have been about the eggs. look what they're doing right now. >> i just want to say executive producer just got in our ear to say that according to the pool, donald trump is, in fact. >> stop it. is he playing golf. >> or is it a day that ends. >> in y. of course. come on. >> well, do you. >> do you have a sense of what we'

epstein's redacted address book, the flight logs. but these influencers are running around like they've got, you know, wonka's golden tickets. they're supposedly a rundown of alleged pedophiles. i don't know why they're smiling and waving the binders around. >> they haven't. here's the thing you should do before you wave it around. maybe look at it. you know, maybe check it out. >> read it first. >> most of it was redacted. i don't know, i think that was oversold. all right. and we have an update on pope francis's health. it's incredible. right. his condition had worsened in the second week of hospitalization, according to the vatican. and i know you've you've worked and conferred with the vatican for almost three decades. raymond, you've interviewed so many popes. what's the latest? >> well, the pope's 88 years old. he's fighting double pneumonia today. he vomited and aspirated it. laura, leading to a breathing crisis. he's now on a noninvasive ventilator. so just a mask. his condition is precarious. but the most telling thing to my

attorney general pam bondi says more jeffrey epstein files after accusing them of withholding additionals evidence is sitting in the southern district of new york so based on that i gave the deadline friday at 8:00, a truckload of evidence. it is in possession of the fbi. kash patel will get me a detailed report as to why these documents and evidence have been withheld. >> reporter: document included a list of epstein's contacts but fell short of releasing his anticipated claim list. tim walt's floating at 2028 presidential ran after his -- alongside democratic candidate kamala harris. made the comments during a recent conversation with the new york about critics blasted him on social media when user writing, quote, needed a morning chuckle. others simply started posting laughing and mojis. maria: that one, come on. you think there is a presidential run in his future? >> reporter: he was supposed to win the male demographic vote for kamala harris, his masculinity was terrifying, turns out 2020-2024, 18 to 29 shifted 20 to the right, he won't get that demographic. they are going to lose.

investigation to jeffrey epstein. she was highly critical, as she had sent a letter to fbi director kash patel essentially demanding an investigation into why she believed that these documents were being hidden. and so all of this taken together, that investigation, which obviously she has been focused on, and then this larger effort, someone who is so forcefully came out there publicly telling his troops, you know, amid all of this potential action from the trump administration to clear out members of the fbi, which is largely seen for political reasons inside the bureau, he stood up and said, no, i've got your back. i'm here, i'm going to fight for you. and in the breaking news now, he's been told he is out. >> josh campbell, thanks so much. meanwhile, in our politics lead, elon musk's department of government efficiency, or doge, wants to charge the office of personnel management, which regulates the federal workforce, millions of dollars for doj's work. this is according to a draft agreement obtained by cnn. the t

what is going on with the epstein files, congresswoman?ow i'm really actually happy you asked that question. so i was tasked with the task force on declassification to look for and investigate the files which say are released from the attorney general's office. now i want to be clear about something when we found in the last couple of weeks and what is definitely a parent is there is absolutely a war taking place in the intelligence agencies. the cia reporting they are worried about their own people leaking secrets to foreign countries and also notified last week there is a whistle-blower that came forward saying there was evidence being destroyed at the fbi as soon as the fbi found that president trump won the election they started their deep state nonsense. i have felt faith in kash patel and pam bondi to deliver those files but i want to be very clear about something, the american people want the truth, we don't want reductions, and although the team is going to continue to press for the transparency, because that is exactly what the am

. >> trace: the epstein files are big thing. you talk about the case we just talked about and pam bondi really wants to get these things out. she said the following here. >> we believe in transparency and america has the right to know. the biden administration is set on these documents, why are they sitting in a southern district of new york and? i want a report on that. sadly these people don't believe in transparency but i think it more unfortunately i think a lot of them don't believe in honesty >> trace: she has some reductions in there but she wants everything on jeffrey epstein to be public. >> i know pam bondi, this is a woman of integrity. she's an honest woman and she's a straight shooter and this is what americans want. they have lost trust in the department of justice and the fbi because there's been no transparency in the last several years and she's promising that and she's going to deliver. obviously you are not able to show everything if it comes down to victim information that cannot be shown. national security i

epstein's address flight logs. interns running around like they got wonka's golden tickets.now why they are smiling and waiving binders around. >> here is the thing you should do before wave it around. look at it. check it out first. >> read it first. >> laura: most of it was redacted. that was oversold. and we have an update on pope francis' health. it's incredible. his condition had worsened in the second week of hospitalization adofergd the vatican. i know you have worked and conferred with the vatican for almost three decades, raymond. have you interviewed so many popes. what's the latest? >> the pope is 88 years old. fighting double pneumonia. >> breathing crisis. is he now on noninvasive ventilators, condition is precarious. they have been having nightly public roseries in st. peters square for the pope's help. that really hasn't happened since the last days of john paul the ii he only has a lung and a half. >> laura: 88 years old, amazing, given his condition 15 years ago. raymond, thank you so much. great to see you have. great weekend. coming up president trump reve

the epstein files and 8:00.>> greg: they never are. everything is redacted. at least that's what my doctor told me. >> jesse: you had george santos on the show. >> judge jeanine: what's he doing? >> greg: just being his old charming self. i'm tired of this banter. aren't you ?esse w tonight. >> the war. not in

it's sort of like the epstein files coming out. >> we also have the epstein files tonight at 8:00. >> yeah. >> don't miss those. >> i hear they're not so exciting. >> very mysterious. >> what happened? are they? never are. everything's redacted. >> yeah. >> at least that's what my doctor told me. you know, watch tonight. what? >> wait, you have jorge santos on the show? >> yes i do. yeah. what? i'm excited. >> what's he doing? >> oh, just being his old, charming self. all ♪ ♪ [national anthem] ♪ ♪ [national anthem] ♪ ♪ [national anthem] ♪ [cheers and applause] charlie: good saturday morning, and welcome to "fox & friends" weekend. good morning, rachel, and good morning, doctor. >> good morning. rachel: so nice of you to join us. paul: they kicked zelenskyy out of d.c., they had to kick me out. [laughter] rachel: no lunch. did the staffers eat your lunch? peter: they said there was going to be lunch at 9 a.m. rachel: i will be buying lunch. breakfast, to the lunch. by the way, toba played madonna to get us in a good mood k and you two don't like madonna. charlie: i never said that, i d

far, he has apparently but we wait to see whether the mexicans the nature of his relationship with epsteinerturn a decision a campaign group has said. the campaign for better transport said people risen by 4.6%. hong kong stock exchange. and thailand. you are away today. to recommend further content to them. music playing. they might want to see, keeping them on the platform longer — during which time they're also likely to see more ads. and to ensure that nothing prejudicial to their wellbeing occurs as a result of those data—processing practices. the ico is also investigating how reddit and imgur verify the ages of those who use their platforms. imgur did not respond. if the ico finds that any of these firms have breached uk laws, it can issue fines, which can then be subject to appeal. zoe kleinman, bbc news. which begins in barcelona later today. companies and international governments have descended communications industry — usually unveils so what can we expect from this year's event? ben wood — chief analyst and cmo at ccs insight said their would be plenty of new offerings on displ

she has been really focused on the jeffrey epstein investigation, demanding all kinds of records from the fbi and prosecutors. she had actually written to kash patel, the fbi director, saying that she believed the fbi's new york office was essentially hiding documents from the justice department. this was the office, of course, that dennehy led. so i think you take that the epstein investigation, her focus on that, which, by the way, we haven't heard, you know, any information to substantiate that. documents are being hidden, but that taken with the fact he's been so vocal in trying to defend the force from what many in the fbi perceive to be political retribution, it appeared that he had a mark on him, on his career. and again, he is out now, just one of many senior executives who have been shown the door. >> that's right. josh campbell, good to see you. thank you for your reporting, josh, as always. coming up still for us, a new health update on pope francis this morning, the vatican saying that he is awake and resting, but he is not out of danger yet. and mattel now celebrating int

it's sort of like the epstein files coming out. >> we also have the epstein files tonight at 8:00. >> yeah. >> don't miss those. >> i hear they're not so exciting. >> very mysterious. >> what happened? are they? never are. everything's redacted. >> yeah. >> at least that's what my doctor told me. you know, watch tonight. what? >> wait, you have jorge santos on the show? >> yes i do. yeah. what? i'm excited. >> what's he doing? >> oh, just being his old, charming self. all ♪ ♪

potentially reckless action by elon musk and doge, conspiracy theories about jeffrey epstein and overhauling the fbi, not concrete steps to reduce prices or help americans find annable -- affordable house to buy. that is the modesto bee. the pages of the new york post, their editorial on last night speech in part reads, new presidents to such joint addresses in an official state of the union speech but this is none of the try list taking off trivia affairs even though the president didn't shy from telling details to make a point. elicit promises made and promises kept with more promise keeping well in a motion. he joked and inspired and baited the opposition and spoke to the country and owned the room. it was one speech on one night still early in his term but donald trump did his cause and the nation as much as good, insuring america that for all the sound and fury, for many, the confusion of the early going he is in total command and has americans dreaming. you can find both of those online if you want to read more for yourself. john in ohio. democrats line. you are next we go ahead. calle

the new york fbi field office had withheld documents related to an accused sex trafficker, jeffrey epstein. cnn has reached out to the fbi for comment. but for dennehy, he is still vowing to fight for the fbi. writing in his final message to coworkers today, i've been told many times in my life, when you find yourself in a hole, sometimes it's best to quit digging. screw that. i will never stop defending this joint. i'll just do it willingly and proudly. from outside the wire. joining us now is christopher o'leary. he is the senior vice president for global operations at the soufan group, a former fbi agent, and knows james dennehy well. chris, what is your reaction to hearing from the dennehy to being forced to resign? >> unfortunately, i'm not surprised, but it's a it's a sad day for for the country. we are prioritizing, you know, the dan bongino of the world who are posting proud boys references. you know, as this is happening over a dedicated, proven leader, somebody who's committed himself to the service of this country for his life at great sacrifice to himself and his family. he is

this is the sequel to the epstein client list?ill quite a bit -- why didn't they commission in deal with the autopsy report? i never understood. they tried to fill in the blanks and answer questions and we finally got to see 14 the film that looks like gallagher smashing watermelon. [laughter] very disturbing. >> gallagher april 20. [laughter] kennedy and i are 19. >> great it's going to somehow spark were world revolution like if you ask anyone paying attention, anyone 35, the only kennedy they know of is patrick kennedy. wait a second, the super handsome guy? >> leave my search history out of this. [laughter] i feel we need a safe word for this segment. what you think? >> historic talk to jfk. [laughter] but those the codeword we used for him. [laughter] >> you know what his secret service handle was? it's like a known thing. >> this is real, trump secret service name is, it's public information. >> i don't know the answer, biden was celtic, bill clinton was equal. kamala was spread eagle. [laughter] [applause] >> my real questi

get any additional files on the epstein case? >> well, so. what happened. >> on. >> friday was that she handed the files that she was given to some right wing. influencers who looked and found nothing of significance. >> no. >> no, no. >> that was thursday. >> oh. >> excuse me, >> that. was thursday. >> they held it up and then she said, i demand these files be put on my desk by 8 a.m. tomorrow morning. and that's the last we heard. or at least that's the last i heard. have you heard anything? or did any more files appear from new york to the attorney general's office on friday morning at the 8 a.m. deadline? >> i don't believe so. >> but last. >> night, she. >> said that she discovered. >> that the. >> fbi in. >> new york. >> or the new york. >> or the southern district. >> of. >> new york. was holding up was, was. >> was holding back. >> and that they had discovered hundreds of more files in their possession and. >> that they. >> are turning them. >> over now. >> and that may. >> have contributed to what happened to mr. dennehy. but look, m

may have to deal with the epstein documents we have been following.it actually will be more like a state of the union address president trump has long series of victories. it is strong footing we can't to wait welcome him back in the chamber. >> it is going to be a maga pep rally not a serious talk to the nation. donald trump is going to spew a series of lies the case i'm going to make to democrats we have to fight every single day. every single day. >> bret: we are getting ready for joint session address. not technically a state of the union, stef. it seems like it will not be the traditional address. from what we're hearing so far expect trump to tout many actions. he has moved quickly and examine him to talk about the border and border numbers being down. we expect him to talk about no government spending action through doge and other issues. we are expecting democrats to boycott their growing list of democrats who are saying that they do not intend to family with show enup tomorrow. >> bret: lucas tomlinson pausing all military aid to ukraine unti

well, turning now to a couple of headlines, the justice department released a wave of jeffrey epsteinweek but stopped short of releasing his client list. many conservative lawmakers including congresswoman anna paulina luna are expressing their frustration about the document rollout. listen. >> i was tasked with the task force on declassification to look for and investigate the files once they are released from the attorney general's office. now, i want to be clear about something. what we found in the last couple of weeks and what's definitely apparent if there's shawl a war taking place in the intelligence agencies. i have full faith in kash patel and a.g. bondi to deliver those file, but the american people want the truth, we don't want redactions. rachel: attorney general pam bonn canty is accuse the fbi of withholding thousands of files -- pam bondi -- and they demanded they be delivered to her office immediately. i wonder why that hasn't yet happened. >>> happening today though, a 12-mile stretch of interstate 40 will reopen today in western north carolina five months after it s

general, she recently accused the fbi in new york office of withholding information about, uh, jeffrey epstein. i don't know how she i mean, she was promoting this release of documents that turned out to be really documents that had already been released. i don't know why she didn't know that in advance. once the reaction to it kind of blew back on her, she suddenly said, oh, well, it's the fbi. i now learned they've been withholding stuff. >> right. and two weeks ago she said, you know, it's all on my desk. >> she saw it the night before. she was like, you're going to be surprised, you know, by it. >> and so i think you got two things going on here. one in right wing blogger circles, they were saying, you know, where's the client list? where's the real stuff? and i think the material is the material. then they started putting out rumors about, you know, people in new york shredding documents. um, there's a lot of this kind of one off from qanon stuff going on out there. but as far as, as far as i can tell, whatever was supposed to be released was turned over to the department of justice. but

, you know, pam bondi, the attorney general kind of found out the hard way when they released the epstein and stephen miller in the white house actually gave all these binders to right wing influencers. and then everyone sort of said, what was that? there was nothing in there, and people were angry. can you bypass the regular system? right. media. et cetera. in the governing phase, it's one thing to do it in the campaigning phase. what's it like doing it now? >> that's a really good question, audie. i guess we will see. they have to keep this channel of communication open with their audience, and they are going to those places. but it isn't the same. you know, people expect results. >> yeah, yeah. and also like andrew tate coming back to the u.s. like there's obviously some voices they want to keep uh energetic and powerful because of their communities. >> and particularly the pam bondi thing. there's some great reporting from paula reid and hannah rabinowitz here at cnn, just in the last day about the fact that the justice department sidelined its career communications people in favor of

you had lot of people in the maga universe very upset about the epstein files, and there seemed to beerent groups that you point out. take us through those three groups. >> yeah. i mean, the big one is like the true. >> maga meat eaters. >> like they are. >> full maga, whether it's like a steve bannon. >> or a charlie. >> cook or charlie. >> kirk or. >> a don. >> junior like they. >> are. >> they are unified on almost. all of these topics. >> there is kind of a middle. >> of maga. >> which is like mostly maga folks that you. >> see. like someone like hugh hewitt, who. used to be pretty. >> conventionally conservative, who now. >> would kind of. fall into that category. and then the. big one is like mega adjacent, and that would. >> be like the joe. >> rogan's of the world. where they're. >> not inherently. >> political. not always political. but have become. very maga. >> over. >> the last 18 months. and i think. >> one of the reasons trump won the election and surprised people. >> was. >> this merger of maga media with what i would consider kind of the bro longevity industrial comple