as i read more and more about it, i came to recognize this equivocation, always, about the nature of the area bombing campaigns. this was the indiscriminant bombing of cities by night, and not looking for individual military important targets, but just trying to demoralize the population and hurt the population, and it seems to me that the allied effort, especially the western allies, the united states and united kingdom, had great duty, to beat naziism, an evil thing to be defeated, but never allow ourselves to get away with thinking because that was the overriding concern, everything else that we did was okay, that we can't inspect our own activities, and the idea of indiscriminant bombing of civilian populations, that we did night after night, week after week, month after month; year after year, i think it does require investigation. the same with the at tom bombing of jay -- japan. we didn't do ourselves any favors. we have to learn the lessons from it, ask ourselves hard questions. the ends don't justify every mean, and so we've got to be ready to confront our past and make use

as a one up for you countries to have told the european commission it wants to protect its cup equivocation and health systems from being overwhelmed by new rivals polly wake of reports on the doubts over whether so-called benefits tourism actually exists. have you had the one about the dutchman the german the austrian and the englishwoman going to the european commission and asking for cubs on migration within the e.u. it's not a joke it actually happened holland germany austria and the u.k. say that they're concerned about the pressure being put on their public services as a result of so-called benefits terrorism so they've written a letter to the european commission asking for help in making it harder for freshly arrived e.u. migrants to access public services such as schools hospitals and accommodation the move comes just seven months before labor restrictions a lifted and the e.u.'s newest members remain ian ball garia are allowed to live and work freely anywhere within the european union brussels response to the letter has been lukewarm they want to see evidence that this so-called be

it's equivocal at best. it sometimes ends up being aggravating, but so far it hasn't panned out. why hasn't it panned out? in part because science isn't quite there yet in that we're able to see some things at a group level, but being able to talk bay single individual to look at their brain and to understand the extent to which their brain differences contribute to their behavior is very challenging. there just isn't enough data for that yet. you can say things at a groupwide level, though. and so kent mentioned earlier the case out of florida in the sue presume court graham in which the court said the juvenile should be treated differently with respect to life without the possibility of parole. the same happened in simmons where the court has treated juveniles differently. it may be the case we can start to do that. we can start to categorize people. we categorized a group of individuals in virginia and said those people who have mental retardation have lesser couple ability for a whole host of reasons, they're more likely to follow people. they're more likely to be subject to

. >> i can say without exception or equivocation that the united states will not torture. >> then, on his second day in office in 2009, president barack obama signed an executive order outlawing these coercive techniques. all future interrogations had to follow the strict guidelines of the army field manual. so the million dollar question. did coercive techniques lead to osama bin laden? >> the black site that i visited was probably the grimmest place that i've ever been. >> i said we're in business. when you are, for understandable reasons, sequestering people who you believe may have information, actionable information, which if you're able to acquire it, will save lives. >> in your experience, looking at all the information you got, does it work? is it a useful interrogation, which some people call torture, a useful way to get information? >> simply did not work. simply were unavailable. we acquired a lot of very important intelligence. >> leon pinetta was in charge the day osama bin laden was killed. >> i often get criticized for saying this, but it is a fact that we got informati

rather and namor president obama promised to end torture first i can say without exception or equivocationthat the united states will not torture. yes that is true he did and the us torture program however he is now working very hard to protect the secrets of that program and the doings of his predecessor the fact is that six million documents have been reviewed and many of them indicate a single disturbing truth that torture tactics did not produce the intelligence that led american forces to osama bin ladin and this information isn't even scratching the surface but once again lawmakers and the public are playing the waiting game and to supporting the day when the full length report will actually come to light so what is taking so long to answer that i was joined earlier by an investigative journalist with. marcy wheeler marcy's latest article was featured in salon and it's called why is obama withholding secret torture report from americans and i began by asking her just what we do know so far about the six thousand page document. i think that the three important points are one contrary

specifically that he is denouncing the seizure of the ap phone records, denouncing it with a no equivocationthat is not partisan. this is a matter of discussion and case i inexcusable. >> now, if the justice department has reason to believe that a certain person has done something or a certain person's people -- let's say, reporter a and reporter a's producer and photographer in tv parlance, you might be able to get a subpoena on those matters. for those specific people. right? >> yes. but that's not what they did. they just -- they cast the net too wide. it's one thing to say we have a concern of this individual in this unit and, therefore, we need to listen in. well -- we need to get the phone records of this unit. they within in and basically into the newsroom of the "associated press," and they looked at all the outgoing calls by -- you don't know who, if it's the janitor, the head editor. so, in the courtroom, what i would be arguing on behalf of the -- of anybody who got caught in this, yourself, the subpoenas should not have been issued. irthey're look at me they can subpoena my phone

. >> i can say without exception or equivocation that the united states will not torture. >> reporter on his second day in office of 2009, president obama signed an executive order outlawing these coercive techniques. >> there we go. >>. [ applause ] >> all future interrogations by anyone in the u.s. government had to follow the strict guidelines of the army field manual. so the million dollar question -- did coercive techniques lead to osama bin laden? once again our intelligence experts weigh in. >> the black site that i visited was probably the grimmest place i've ever been. >> robert, a 27 year cia veteran ran the counterterrorism center from twoou 2004 to 2006. >> it is a grim business when you are, for understandable reasons, sequestering people who you believe have information, actionable information, which if you are able to acquire it will save lives. >> in your experience, looking at all of the information you got, does it work? is the use of coercive interrogation, which some people call torture a useful way to get information? for those group of hardened terrorists, agains

diane was clear the brutality of the murder, even she equivocated a bit.e instructions they were getting about the death penalty instructed them to look into the previous history of crime the previous behavior. there were several jurors who were not only convinced this was a sort of an alchemy of that relationship that, she has no history he was likely to do this thing. several jurors believed the abuse defense to some degree or another. so they were absolutely clear to give it to a serial killer or to someone that met that criteria that they were given, but they were also very clear they could not give it to jodi arias, so they were deadlocked. to say, i'm troubled by people saying the system didn't work, it was a troubling outcome. no. things worked the way they were supposed to. >> this is just situation, for people who said they didn't get a verdict. they got a verdict. it was the third answer on the for it isn't palatable to some people. this is justice. i got to ask you, do you think, drew, if we are going to employ a death penalty and do death quali

>> shep, when somebody claims the fifth, they usually do sought without equivocation.e it, and then they shut up. not so lois lerner. republican congressman trey gowdy himself a former prosecutor jumped on it as you just saw. it wasn't just republicans today firing shots at the irs. the committee's top democrat went after former irs commissioner douglas shulman for saying back in march of 2012 that there was absolutely no targeting taking place. and then not correcting the record. >> at the time i learned about this list, i felt i was taking the appropriate actions and that my course was the proper one and i still feel that way today. >> i'm sorry, that's simply not good enough. you personally knew there was a target list. >> the committee wants to know how high knowledge of the targeting went and who ordered it. shulman acknowledged to the committee that he visited the white house 118 times during his tenure as commissioner. >> you are very aware of the fact that you are under oath today. >> very aware of that. >> and your testimony, to be very clear, in response to t

pillar of american policy in the arab world since 1933, the oil to saudi arabia has played highly equivocal role as has most of the arab countries where palestine is concerned. of the kingdom in which most other arab countries have paid lip service publicly to the palestine cause, in private the diplomatic record shows the diplomacy has taken quite a different path. for example, 1945 after meeting with the monarch aboard an american warship president roosevelt wrote a letter in which he promised that the united states we do nothing that would harm ever interest in palestine and would consult with the arabs before it did anything. united states has betrayed these promises systematically in the decades ever since and this has brought no significant reaction from saudi arabia or other arab countries. truman and his successors could ignore president roosevelt's pledge in 1945 without fear of losing considerable strategic economic advantages that are provided by the american saudi relationship. their dissatisfaction over the truman administrations hostile policy over palestine was so muted that

he is equivocating are we going to taper or not taper.t made a corresponding move. >> llok at oil in the middle. day. that was not all bernanke. that was supply and demand. >> oil was a more fundamental move. it came down as it should have. keep an eye on the stock market and economy. if that starts rally i think you will start see oil going up. >> dan, thanks for taking time away from it. cattle pits down there, they don't care about anything in terms of bernanke and all that foolishness. here in the rest of them they sure do. it has been a wild day. traders love that. volatility, they love that. lori: but in a million different directions, jeff. that is confusing and frustrating at the same time. >> you said it. lori: jeff flock thank you. >> thanks, lori. ashley: for more on the market reaction david joy, ameriprise financial chief market strategist. he is here to talk about what it means for investors. an interesting day, dave. we're up 150 points and basically now we're at the flat line. what is your thoughts? >> what happened at tes

and enwhen he is at all equivocal we can know he is running for president. >> i am president. >> i was going to get to that. [laughter] >> i just want to read a couple of lines from the book which i think summarizes it. americans will not enjoy the standard of living or quality of life they aspire to at home amid chaos abroad. and the united states will not be in a position to limit chaos abroad unless it rebuilds the foundations of its strength at home. and then later on he said, the objective must be to take advantage of the opportunity we have now, which richard calls a strategic respite, to restore the foundations of american power, including the economy, the schools, infrastructure, and i think that we should be grateful that richard that joined the debate in this way. as you know, richmond is -- richard is the president of the council on foreign real estates and worked in almost every administration in our lifetime. he is the author and editor of 12 books. and i will start by asking you, why not merge with brookings? and what i really want to do is ask you, what pushed you in thi

and enwhen he is at all equivocal we can know he is running for president. >> i am president. >> i wasing to get to that. [laughter] >> i just want to read a couple of lines from the book which i think summarizes it. americans will not enjoy the standard of living or quality of life they aspire to at home amid chaos abroad. and the united states will not be in a position to limit chaos abroad unless it rebuilds the foundations of its strength at home. and then later on he said, the objective must be to take advantage of the opportunity we have now, which richard calls a strategic respite, to restore the foundations of american power, including the economy, the schools, infrastructure, and i think that we should be grateful that richard that joined the debate in this way. as you know, richmond is -- richard is the president of the council on foreign real estates and worked in almost every administration in our lifetime. he is the author and editor of 12 books. and i will start by asking you, why not merge with brookings? and what i really want to do is ask you, what pushed you in this d

even senator durbin who has equivocated but said he would vote for it. he told vcnn that. of chicken. they should be holding out because if they eventually have to sacrifice it, it will be a big progressive concession. and the more attention is on this provision, the less attention is on something huge like the pathway to citizenship. the more spent on this fight are taking attention from other issues. they should at least be trying. >> bill: schumer was a big disappointment on this. it shouldn't be an issue. should not be an issue in this legislation. it should be automatic as far as i am concerned. kerry here, talking marriage equality, immigration reform as it relates to lgbt couples. give us a call if you want to join the conversation at 866-55-press. >> this is "the bill press show." just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv. (vo) this afternoon, current tv is the place for compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of mariju