you will have woman going the extremes, and until we ablg knowledge that and ignore the prove erargument, we can not ge away. >> having said all of that adam i am trying to give people the benefit of the doubt. one possibility is that it does ring over those that are from the wrong side of the tracks and might be one over with a more promising argument. what do you make of that? >> well, the puzzling part of this to me is why these well off or relative people do what they do. first of all, this is not new. you think of castro and these are all rich kids and kids that were radicalized. just to finish my point, it makes sense that the prove erty stricken people are are going to be acceptable to arguments and we should pay attention to that. >> that does not explain. >> why should we sit there and say we should fell story for them because they're poor? >> i did not say anything about. >> i don't think that it should. it's a good life. >> people that over threw the ones that were holding them back was a lot different. look at the faces of the people that were massacred in paris and then mass