individuals can speak, but no one representing that park m erced action can speak. let's take a recess for five minutes. >> i think there is a lot of confusion because a lot of you don't come to commission hearings on a regular basis. but the commission has had the rules and regulations for the 30-some-odd years i've been here. one of the rules they have amended is one to allow people modified times to address. they interests futured mod -- they instituted modifications to their rules for a group to get up to 15 minutes for standard and complicated cases. for a period not to exceed sa 15 minutes. -- 15 minutes. this will be recognized only upon application to the president prior to the hearing. again, i apologize if most of you were not aware of that prule. -- rule. this organization did write and ask for a block of time in advance of the hearing and the president granted that. the president has the right to modify the amount of time a person requests. they can request up to 15 minutes and be given 10 minutes, as an example. in most cases -- actually, in all case th