>> well, the part ergglingto ma meet, we see that throughout.we don't look at one county or geographic area and say oh here it is. it's pretty evenly distributed. in terms of the actual poverty, where is that? we need a deeper analysis on that and i think we will find more of a locus. that's part of the final report in more detail. also just to say it's really true what andy said and what you pointed out, if the jewish community, organized communal life is more occupied by upper middle class and affluent people as it is and that is not your story and narrative, you are not going to opt in. you just wouldn't even really think this is something that's relevant for you. it is very important as we go forward to think about how to make this community one that really is reflective of the population which right now i don't think it is. so we have work to do. >> it seems so important when you talk about the consequence to issues around philanthropy, access to where you join or don't join and can be a part of the community at large. >> this is such a won