eric: i'm eric in for bill hemmer. syria asking the u.s. ask permission before launching any attacks. >> reporter: if airstrikes in syria are ever going to happen, the pentagon needs to know what kinkind of fire power isis has. the white house has been careful to say president obama hasn't made a decision to pursue action in syria, but these flights against militants, the president once lumped in with what he called a jv tear vifts, if the president wants to unleash an aerial assault in isis this surveillance is necessary. eric: the pentagon coordinating with the syrian government on these strikes? >> reporter: there is no coordination. the obama administration is candid about saying they are not look for permission before they launch surveillance strikes or potential airstrikes. president obama has been saying for years that syrian president bashar al-asaad must go. as we know, he's still there. now his foreign minister is warning the white house they better call damascus to ask for permission for any airstrike. he said any airstrike not c

eric? eric: thank you very much. martha? martha: concern from democrats that criticism aimed at the white house could hurt them in november. some describe president obama as detached by some in his own party. we'll take that up with the panel coming up. eric: in northern california, there are concerns about potential aftershocks after that powerful 6.0 earthquake mitt napa valley in the middle. night yesterday. is this far from over? >> felt like somebody was just getting ready to pull the house out from underneath us. shook. >> i was swaying back and forth. felt like two or three feet. and it went on and on and on. fiber one. new fiber one streusel. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, shopping online is as easy as it gets. carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs

eric: i'm eric shawn in for bill hemmer this morning.mes as a united nations panel accuses isis of war crimes. accusations that may bolster any case for expanding the air campaign. martha: ed henry joins us now. what's the latest in terms of where the president is on the issue of a broader involvement on the part of the united states and syria? >> there are conflicting signals. he appears to be edging closer to expanding those airstrikes into syria. he had a meeting late yesterday with secretary of state john kerry. a year ago this very wierkt was secretary of state kerry who went out publicly and made the case for intervention in syria back then over chemical weapons. now secretary kerry a forceful advocate for doing airstrikes inside syria. but a year ago the president went up to the line and pulled back. the other interesting element is there is a lot of speculation about what's happening in northern iraq. you will remember the mission where this all started a few weeks back to deal with the religious minorities stuck on the mountain.

>> i see your point, eric. i get it.have to couch it and you have to say this is larry say. >> a lot of times we have learned. we have jumped to some the twitter stories that frankly aren't confirmed. all of us in the regular media, in the real big boy journalist media realized you have to couch, you have to clarify everything. thank you very much. by the way i always jumped off othe bridge with johnny. coming up, breaking news on the reported beheading of a journalist by isis terrorists. we will bring you the very latest on that disturbing situation. your eyes. even 10 miles away. they can see the light of a single candle. look after them with centrum silver. multivitamins for your eyes, heart and brain. now, with a new easy to swallow coating. s charlie. his long day of doing it himself starts with back pain... and a choice. take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. honey, you did it! baby laughs! could help your business didavoid hours of delaynd test caused by slow internet from the phone company? tha

. >> hans von spakovsky spoke about his book, "obama's enforcer: eric holder's justice department" at the eagle forum collegians leadership summit in washington, d.c. this is about 30 minutes. >> our next speaker is hans von spakovsky who is the author of "obama's enforcer: eric holder's justice department." hans von spakovsky is an attorney and former of the board of advisors for the federal election commission. he's an expert on voter fraud and cowrote with john fund the recent book, who's counting? gives a staff member at the heritage foundation, particularly speaking and writing on elections. please welcome hans von spakovsky. [applause] >> i hope you're enjoying your stay here at the heritage foundation. well, two years ago john fund and i -- is our national affairs correspondent where i'm also a country but. we wrote a book on election integrity in voter fraud. in june we came out with a second book called "obama's enforcer: eric holder's justice department." and it's basically about how eric holder has run the justice department for the past almost six years. and i can tell you

al sharpton introduces eric garner's widow.idow and mother of eric garner. >> i do not know what to say. what -- i do not know what to say. thank you so much for your support. we miss him so much. i do not know what else to stay -- to not know what else to say. thank you for coming out to support me and get justice for my husband. >> we have a retired police officer here in support of what we are doing. i want to bring him to the stage. -- will you stand by and [indiscernible] you are just as bad as the rest of them and all of you should be held accountable. say,ther thing i want to the reason why we want all of in the case to be held accountable and arrested, when our kids decide to do something that [indiscernible] case, andic garner's he said i cannot breathe and they did nothing, [indiscernible] >> my name is constance. the staten island da should not be prosecuting this case. cop --ot want the same when they dropped the ball. we cannot have that happen. we need the feds to come in and take this case. we need accountability

eric: i'm eric shawn in for bill hemmer today. isis kills christians, and goes after the kurds and other religious minorities. iraq's leaders are struggling to build a new government while fighting off the terrorists at the same time. lindsey graham telling fox news this is no time for president obama to take half measures. >> his responsibility is to defend this nation. if he does not go on the offensive against isis. isil, whatever you want to call them, they are coming here. if we get attacked because he has no strategy to protect us then he will have committed a blunder for the ages. martha: what do we know about the arms the obama administration provided to the kurds? >> we are told the kurdish peshmerga are getting flurry of sources confirm the obama administration is providing heavy weapons. typically the cia is the agency that facilitates such deliveries. the pentagon says they are not providing weapons to the kurds. though fighter jets struck overnight. three towns in the northern iraq have been retaken by the kurdish pes

>> ask yourself, eric.20 billion we invested in the iraqi security forces and why they're unable to fight. they're not able to fight because they're not invested in a clean democratic government. the most important thing, eric, is the sunni population that's joined isis -- >> i'm not in favor of going back in with troops on the ground and risking more american lives. i'm all for the tarlgted air strikes to help the kurds and iraqis fend for themselves. just give me one second -- >> actually helping isis -- >> give me one second. i think the game has changed with isis. take a look at this picture we believe circulating from an isis fighter standing in front of the white house taking a picture of the white house and underneath it i understand it reads in your state, in your streets, we're coming to america. doesn't that scare the begeez out of ms. benjamin of "code pink"? >> i think we have the largest army in the world. we have the largest security state, the nsa, the fbi, the cia to protect us here at home.

this is where attorney general eric holder will be 11 days after the deadly

he has sent eric holder instead, and there is talk that eric holder wanted to do this.sident obama didn't have to send him. the function is to a certain degree symbolic, but that's not to under cut or denigrate or some how diminish what eric holder is doing there. at this point people want to be reassured. >> mike viqueira at the white house, great stuff as always. thank you. let's go back to missouri and go the organization amnesty international. first, let's set the record straight. people have asked were you kicked out of the city by ferguson police? what really happened? >> amnesty international was not kicked out of ferguson by police. when the police asks non-media to leave the scene we decided for the safety of those around us we should also leave. so we walked forward to the front of the line. they shouted us to get down, myself and one member of our delegation, we got down on our knees and another officer waved us through. i'm sure as members of the press you can empathize with this encounter while not necessarily as dramatic as it may seem or has been portraye

the reason i don't think so is because you heard eric holder, attorney general eric holder talking about opening a criminal probe into the murder of foley. foley's murder was an act of war. it was a statement of intent. the suggestion that somehow we're sending fbi agents into the deserts of western iraq to start forensically investigate what happened just shows the disconnect between what isis intend toward us and the way the president is approaching a problem, which is to say a clinical approach that doesn't understand fully what it means to have a national security threat to the united states. >> yet, dan, we had the secretary of defense chuck hagel come out and say, look, this is like nothing we've seen before. this is an imminent threat to america, to the homeland. that is ratcheting up the threat level in the perceptions of the american public. is that a disconnect, too, or is the administration maybe trying to actually educate americans in order to act more than bret thinks they will? >> paul, i think the administration is trying to educate the president of the united states to th

this is about eric garner.bout what happened to him and other unarmed young black men at the hands of police, and to keep the focus on that as everyone moves forward. >> todd johnson for us down there in staten island. we'll check in with you once again. we're watching the rally and the nypd closely today because of what's happening 950 miles west of staten island. we're talking about ferguson, missouri. people protested the shooting of michael brown again overnight, but the crowds were smaller and remained peaceful. it's been exactly two weeks since officer wilson shot and killed the unarmed 18-year-old. st. louis county prosecutors this week convened a grand jury to begin hearing evidence in the case, and today we have the racial makeup of that grand jury. let me bring in harvard professor of law charles ogletree. mr. ogletree, always good to talk to you. did you have any concerns when you first heard about the makeup of that grand jury? we can put it up on the screen. 12 jurors, three african-americans, nine

you heard what eric holder said. this thing won't drag on but it is likely to drag on at least until october, right? >> reporter: his investigation of trayvon martin hasn't come to any resolution yet and that's because it's a very high bar for a civil rights case. i think the more immediate judgment for the attorney general's usefulness is how does he do in monitoring the ongoing investigation on the local level. the balance is this, carol. 'peeled to the people here who feel disenfranchised and there's a vacuum of leadership, period. he helped in that way, but this situation can't be judged on the basis of race. it has to be facts and circumstances. it has to be thoroughly investigated and put through the system the right way. can he ensure that? if that's not done right, the peace cannot be maintained in this community, and many others across the country. so that's the real test. >> all right, we also have our justice correspondent evan perez, on the phone. evan, do you think that eric holder will return to ferguso

>> well, eric, i think you use everything you can. you're dealing with a fanatic, in the case, they want to fight them off the face of the earth, they want to bury us, they want to do all of these things. when you've got fanatics there's no dealing in a radical way. air strikes have been very valuable to us. all of those things. no boots on the ground, that's wonderful, but you've got to cut them where they hurt. and the economic place is a perfect place to do it. >> wayne -- >> yeah. >> these are terrorists, these are killers not pension fund thieves. you know, it's like saying we could have won world war ii by boycotting sausage. it's total war against isis and jihad and states that support it. obama will bomb to help iraqis. bush will bomb to help afghanis, who will bomb to help americans? that's the government's only role. >> we're trying to be libertarian, john. this is one of the most difficult things. a true truth. don't do anything at all, including don't cut off their money source? >> i'm not a murray libertarian. that's the

with the family of eric garner. the march is set to end at the staten island district attorney's office where a rally demanding justice for garner will begin at 1:00 p.m. joining me with more on today's march is ed todd johnson, a multimedia correspondent, for the gre owe.com. todd, what can we expect and who can we expect to see at today's march? >> good morning, melissa. you can expect a whole lot of activity and a whole lot of defensemmonstrators here to rem eric garner's life and also ask for action, asking for for change and a new kind of training and tactics from the new york police department. there's not a lot going on right now. it's relatively calm. there are buses of defensemmonss that have arrived. there's been a lot of changes that have had to happen to make this rally possible this morning. a number of businesses in the area here on staten island have closed in and ticipation of everyone being here today to avoid problems or disruptions that may occur to their businesses. that's certainly in play. ther

we're coming right back. >> attorney general eric holder is i in ferguson, missouri. he promises a fair investigation, but he has already joined president obama in questioning, local and state police tactics and integrity, former obama justice deputy attorney, christian adams, will joijoin me next. 9m lou: in the indictment of governor rick perry for political reasons, new reports that a democratic activist, was a member of the grand jury, that indicted him on alleged abuse of power charges. not only activist but that jury or reportedly attending a democratic party even while the grand jury proceedings were going on. many legal expert have said they support governor perry's claim he did nothing wrong, when he tried to oust a democratic district attorney who was convicted of drunk driving. our next guest said that traerpb attorney general eric holder civil right -- his appearance in ferguson, missouri today, all about divideing americans,o the basis of race. joining us craig adams former u.s. department of justice attorney, served under presidents bush and obama. autho

attorney general eric holder. that day jamie dimon called up eric holder and a deal was done all of that evidence was hidden nobody has seen it eric holder did not release it to c.n.n. and fox news to paint a picture of what jamie dimon is that's up to us on our t.v. and kaiser report to do but he got away with the paper thirteen billion dollars a record fine for a u.s. bank paid thirteen billion dollars last year nobody knows what he did and it's all gone away if you look at the corner of the reports of the annual reports of j.p. morgan you'll see in the footnotes of the references to off the balance sheet items just like enron or any other fraud world com the details not any great specificity but very begley the nature of their fraud so that means yes you see never prosecuted eric holder never prosecuted the financial news like c m b c never brought never reported on it the hedge funds never did thing which between a fraudulent fraudulent bassman warren buffett never talked about on a c n.b.c. show so this it ta

attorney general eric holder, that made for a dramatic and fast moving day in ferguson. that happened on the same day in -- that a local grand jury started considering evidence as to whether or not the police officer who shot michael brown should be charged with a crime for that shooting. there is still a lot to see in ferguson, and a lot to report from ferguson, and we will have all of that coming up, including multiple live reports from the scene in downtown ferguson starting in just a moment tonight. >>> but before we get to that news from ferguson, today was also a day of angry reaction, and denunciation by the president of the united states, by the vice president of the united states and by leaders around the globe in reaction to the actions of islamic militants operating in iraq and syria, the militant group which yesterday murdered an american journalist in cold blood. they beheaded him on camera, and then uploaded the video of the killing so it could be seen worldwide. today the family of that jurnist, the parents of jim foley, they were able to make a public sta

attorney general eric holder. that day jamie diamond called up eric holder and a deal was done all of that evidence was hidden nobody has seen it eric holder did not release it to c.n.n. and fox news to paint a picture of what jamie dimon is that's up to us on our t.v. and kaiser report to do but he got away with this he paid thirteen billion dollars a record fine for a u.s. bank paid thirteen billion dollars last year nobody knows what he did and it's all gone away if you look at the corner of the reports of the annual reports of j.p. morgan you'll see in the footnotes of the references to off she. was just like enron or any other fraud world that details not going to great specificity but very beggarly the nature of their fraud. so that means yes you see never prosecuted eric holder never prosecuted the financial news like c m b c never brought never reported on it the hedge funds never thing which between a fraudulent fraudulent bassman warren buffett never talked about it on a c n.b.c. show so this it takes a

the issue here is the choke hold that was placed on eric garner that led to his death. we now have a video that establishes that and a medical examiner's report that has followed up that finding by finding that it was, indeed, a homicide. >> and vince warren, in the old days before video you make an arrest like that and that would be one way of fixing that particular eyewitness's testimony to work in a much more favorable direction for the police but the trouble here is his testimony doesn't matter, it's his video that tells the story and it doesn't matter what orta has done before or since that video. >> oh, that's 100% right. and what do we know? we know what we saw. we know that the medical examiner has said that this is a killing by the police when mr. garner was in custody and the next step, really, is how do we think about this as a community and in our relationship with the police department? my organization, the center for constitutional rights, won the stop and frisk case last year and the city of new york, the mayor, the police commissioner, the police union a

attorney general eric holder. that day jamie dimon called up eric holder and a deal was done all of that evidence was hidden nobody has seen it eric holder did not release it to c.n.n. and fox news to paint a picture of what jamie dimon is that's up to us on our t.v. and kaiser report to do but he got away with it he paid thirteen billion dollars a record fine for a u.s. bank paid thirteen billion dollars last year nobody knows what he did and it's all gone away if you look at the corner of the reports of the annual reports of j.p. morgan you'll see in the footnotes of the references to off the balance sheet items just like enron or any other fraud world com the details not any great specificity but very begley the nature of their fraud so that means yes you see never prosecuted eric holder never prosecuted the financial news like c m b c never brought never reported on it the hedge funds never thing which between a fraudulent fraudulent bassman warren buffett never talked about it on a c n.b.c. show so this it ta

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holder said to eric johnson he whispered to him.did not mean for the world to hear it. in the part we could hear, the two men talked about how ferguson is ready for peace, ready for out150iders agitating in the streets to go home, we learned that in the midst of his around the clockwork. captain johnson forgot his own wedding anniversary. >> keep up the good work. >> thank you. >> i will. >> i'm going to check with your wife and see if you're doing that. >> happy anniversary, captain johnson. after that meeting, the attorney general went to another local meeting, the local field office of the fbi to meet with agents who have been canvassing door to door, looking for evidence in the shooting death of michael brown, into which the federal government has launched an independent investigation. in terms of how this story continues to play out, in terms of consequences or changes in policing or policy, this stop today may turn out to be the most significant part of eric holder's long day in missouri. the attorney general has pledged the r

he has eric holder.ric holder is our point person in this country for justice, and i am positive, because of my personal experience with him, that he will do the right job. and as far as president obama, he's the best. and that goes out to all c-span callers, and we thank you. host: all right. on attorney general eric holder's record from "the new york times" this morning, under mr. hole deer the justice department opened nearly two dozen such investigations into police departments, more than twice as many were opened in the previous five years, according to the department data. so mr. holder has looked into the conduct of police departments more than the previous five years under mr. holder's leadership. wedgewood, maryland, independent caller, hi, tyrone, go ahead. caller: hi. i was calling to -- no, i don't think the president should go down to missouri. i don't think there's much he can do. if they want to change first of all they need to address that only 6% of the population to represent themselves

he met with eric holder earlier today. professor bell, tell us how that meeting went. >> it was a very positive meeting. mr. holder was very inspiring, but also realistic. so it was a very positive meeting. >> i want to listen to what captain ron johnson said about eric holder's visit today. let's listen to that. i guess -- >> i think it had a great impact. it shows the people of ferguson, the people of st. louis, to our nation, that their voices are heard, that the highest office in this land is listening to their voices. and is taking a look into the incident that happened here. >> wesley bell, do the people there understand the unprecedented nature of this federal response, that there's never been an incident like this, a killing by police that has received this much presidential comment, this much presidential attention, and this much attention from the attorney general? >> it is a unique situation. as an educator, our classes started this week and i talked to my students about just that. this is one of those, where we

let's turn now to attorney general eric holder's trip here.is something being accomplished? >> i have to tell you, my constituents are very happy about this. they have been tempered. this is like a look over the governor's shoulder. eric holder understands the kind of pressure and intimidation that my constituents have experienced. this is definitely a message to the people of ferguson and otherwise that the federal government is serious. quite honestly, our governor has let us down. for my constituents to experience tear gas with extraordinary force from police officers in st. louis county, it was quite upsetting, to say the least. he was at the state fair at a concert and just to have that experience, two state senators in his party have been tear gassed at this point. >> you have been very critical of the governor on twitter. you used some of the same language the police officer used or at least the same word starting with an "f." he's tried to be more active. he's appeared, talked more about it. he's subjected himself to two interviews by

and eric holder. there are people close to al sharptons of the world. that's their idea of deployment, right? >> if you want to involve the al sharptons of the world you're going to exacerbate a problem that would die fairly quickly. that's what i like about president obama staying away from this so far. if president obama gets involved it's going to be a situation where the aggrieved will feel happy for a time but the nonaggrieved will say hey wait a second why so much governments for involvement here but not here. stay out of it and let the problem solve itself. >> rick, you're not a fan of al sharpton, what he does, are you? the point is, he's working closely with the administration on this. in fact, those are the where the protest martials are drawn from. >> no i'm not a fan of al sharpton, i think we all know. but i got to respond to the assumptions here which are a bit troubling. number one, i don't know how we can argue the justice department has taken a side in this because we still don't know the police's version of it. >> that's the point. >>

eric holder said they are right to protest and that would be protected. he heard that from the president as well. people can protest ring tonight, but they have to keep moving. they can't congregate. the police have broken up using force.ests they have arrested journalists. everything said has not translated on the ground. see.is what people want to they also want to see things change once the crisis is over. in ferguson the violence seems to come at night. so as not fall approaches, we will monitor the situation. for more on eric holder's visit, i spoke to the former u.s. attorney general alberto gonzales. alberto gonzales, we have the attorney general eric holder in ferguson, missouri. he has been meeting with community members. what good do you think his visit can do? >> i think it can do quite a bit of good. we have to remember the department of justice was invited to participate on the governor of missouri. the good he can do is to first of all emphasized to his troops on the ground this is important to him and the president and we expect the job to

can eric holder do anything to help? is a situation where politics intersects with police and law enforcement in a very, very big way, and yes, eric holder can do something, because under federal law, if holder decides that the federal government would be better investigators in this case, would be fairer to the community, he can supersede local prosecutors and take over the case completely. we know that justice has already ordered its own autopsy. fbi agents are doing canvassing so they're certainly looking at that as a possibility. i it's very rare that they do it but holder could invoke that jurisdiction if he wanted to. >> it may happen bus there are calls that a special prosecutor be assigned to this case, because they say the prosecutor in the state of missouri is -- >> compromised. >> is compromised. >> absolutely. >> it's a good word. would you like to see eric holder and the u.s. justice department take over, kevin in. >> the justice department needs to look at this situation and other situations, because there'

it's officer pantolio you see in the video using the choke hold on eric garner.ttorney general eric holder has confirmed that justice department prosecutors are monitoring the city's investigation. at a rally on saturday, eric garner's mother and widow reacted to the medical examiner's ruling the death a homicide. >> yesterday when i heard the coroner's report, i tell you, i was downtown brooklyn and i was in a store and when i got the telephone call i guess people thought i was crazy. i just start saying "thank you, jesus." [ applause ] i. >> i met with the prosecutors and i feel like i did the right thing by doing that and i just want them do the right thing and give me justice for my husband. [ applause ] >> ramsey orta, the man who recorded the choke hold incident on that video you just saw was arrested over the week end in that same neighborhood for criminal possession of a weapon. police charged him with two counts of criminal procession of a .25-caliber norton semiautomatic handgun. that handgun, the police say, mr. orta passed to a teenaged girl just befo

eric holder is a little older. i did a piece for politico a month ago that explored just this question, the fact that holder, who an tag niesed so many of obama's white inner circle in the first term, particularly when he made that speech in 2009, holder really says things and the role he largely plays in the administration on racial matters is to say things the president himself can't say. and what i mean by generational, eric holder is seven or eight years older -- i may be getting that wrong, than obama. and had personal experience with that civil rights generation. eric holder grew up a few blocks from where malcolm x lived in queens and regularly saw him around the neighborhood. that's a different perspective than standing on the shoulders of giants thing. >> a deep anger in the black community about police abuses, about a broad sense of injustice in the courts and i'm surprised that we're not seeing more national politicians especially i would expect to see in the democratic party picking up and voicing that

when i saw this hit the tape, eric, i thought what must eric be thinking now?t know. you know, buzzfeed is a company that we invested in six years ago, and it's been a wonderful experience, and as you can see, has, you know, raised the amount of capital it needs to become a very major brand. liz: what was it six years ago that got you thinking i'm willing to put money into this news content space? >> well, the founder, jonah peretti, has been interested on how people share content and why certain types of content gets more, you know, viralty, more sharing than others. i knew jonah from the huffington post where i was also a very early investor, and he was our first cto. and when jonah decided to start buzzfeed, obviously, we followed where he was going. liz: let's just give a little background about you. i mean, in the early days you were at pc magazine, then chairman and ceo of zip davis, then ceo of huffington post. now you sit on the board of buzzfeed. this money that comes in from andreessen horowitz, how will it most dramatically be used, eric? >> mostly i

attorney general eric holder.e civil rights investigation into michael brown's death, but as the investigation begins to take form many are wondering where is the president and what will really happen in this investigation, more show or go? with us we have cnn crossfire host van jones and former spokesman and top aid to attorney general eric holder matthew miller. i'll start with you, van. >> that's right. >> you're here on the ground and hear what the community leaders say that they want and what the community seems to need. do you believe that eric holder coming here is important symbolically or important substantively. >> more important symbolically. they already have 40 feds on the ground. interviewing lots of people but this is the top law enforcement agent in the country showing up in ferguson. that sends a big signal. however, people on the ground say that's not enough. they actually want appropriate mah to come. a traumatized community, a dead child laying in the street for hours and hours uncovered. you h

just moments ago, we heart from attorney general eric holder.hings have affected him as greatly as his trip to ferguson, and his meeting with

you attended the funeral of eric garner. your thoughts today?fficers and your son, was killed in that case. >> [no audio] >> i'm sorry. can you start again? we didn't hear you. >> i was saying that it is a bittersweet moment for you when i attended the funeral. we had been there many times over and over again. when my son was gunned down in his own vestibule he was doing nothing wrong. that night, no one called 911 saying that any crime is being committed or had been committed that night. they just came out with their guns drawn. son.basically executed my my family and the community at large called for changes. it seems to me the call has not been answered. we keep on seeing many victims of the same similar cases. even different cases. what is different this time? .e did not have a video to show but this time, as was just said, we have this video that enlightens so that we can see the aggressive and brutal things that the cops did against eric. i have to say, though, that if the nypd and law enforcement at large want to help the communities to r

is sending eric holder there tomorrow the answer? >> sending eric holder will inflame things even more. it sends the signal that this truly is a major federal issue. this isn't a federal issue. this president has had so many opportunities to unite us. he has a unique moral position to ignite us over these issues and he further divides us. 40 fbi agents investigating the actions of one police officer in suburban st. louis, i wonder how many are investigating lois lerner and the abuse of the irs. that's a federal issue. >> that's also a huge issue. i don't want to make light of the situation going on here. >> i'm not making light of it. i just think that there is a state issue and there's a local issue and a county issue. by throwing in the attorney general of the united states, it raises the stakes to such a level that it's unprecedented. >> we pointed out at the top of the show that this is not the first time that an attorney general has gone to the scene of a situation like this. there is countless times over the history in the last

i'm glad eric holder is coming to town.whether obama shows up or not, i don't think makes much difference. one last comment to say about governor perry. if he wants to get out of trouble he needs to deal with john boehner. >> host: i'm going to live there. "the new york times" this more, frontpage, peter baker's piece writing on the front page, shared vision, varying styles. they're right about this photo that was released by the white house last week. it shows the president talking with attorney general eric holder in martha's vineyard, august 14, and this is what the two reporters write about this picture. when violence erupted last week after police shooting them is a, president obama and eric holder huddled on martha's vineyard where they were both on vacation to as the most powerful african-americans and nation confront interracial divide they come at it from font many different backgrounds and points of view. mr. holbrooke and 63, is the one thing for. both in the photograph released by the white house and on issues a

sending eric holder to ferguson. is this unnecessary. >> anyone in the protest understands that there is a dangerous dynamic in the night. >> eric holder will personally oversee the investigation of the shooting death of michael brown. this is not the first time the justice department got involved. 1968 investigators were dispatched and in 1991 they got involved after a riot spread over los angeles after the beating death of rodney king. and two years ago, when the justice department conducted the investigation of trayvon martin. no material charges were filed. eric holder who briefed the president may have few options at his disposal. joining us is doug burn and a lysse whole. and welcome to both of you. >> at the heart of the investigation there are serious questions. we don't have all of the facts n. but the fact that we are sending the attorney general in to ferguson and 50 fbi agents, what does it say? >> it makes sense. you went through the different crimes before 1991, and even two years ago, the feds investig