by eric alterman who is a well-known liberal writer. he has a new book out called the cause of making the case for a liberal politics. one of the things that he brought up is the tension that existed for so long between white liberals and african-americans. about how you resolve what one of them wants political advantage and the other said we want to be full players in the democracy. really tough. >> a couple of thoughts about this and in my mind what you are raising also connects to the question about cent richl. that gabrielle brought up. when i think about the history of what's gone on and the political have been an outspoken and a leading figure in that movement and our c-span audience should know you ran for president in 1988 in 1988 and bap the first to access the ballot in all 50 states. that was amazing. more than that, your message in that campaign and since then and certainly in all of our work in the empty movements is trying to find ways to build new bridges between communities and constituencies and groups of americans who

great new book out, you're going to be shocked to find out i wrote a very good review of it by eric alterman who's quite a well known liberal writer. he has a new book out called "the cause" of making the case for liberal politics. one of the things says that he brought up is the tension that existed for so long between white liberals and african-americans about how do you resolve -- one of them wants political advantage and the other says we want to be full players in this democracy. really tough. >> a couple of thoughts about this. and in my mind what you're raising we also connect to the question about sen terrorism that gabrielle brought up. i think about some to have history of what's gone on in the independent political movement. of course, you've been an outspoken and leading figure in that movement and our c-span audience should know that you ran for president in 1988 as an independent and became the first woman and first african-american in u.s. history to access the ballot in all 50 states. which was amazing. [ applause ] but more than that, your message in that campaign and since