eric brooks with san francisco green party and local grassroots organization in our city. so, first i want to make sure that it's made clear on the pg&e question. a lot of very -- varied environmental and consumer groups made sure the settlement that was reached with pg&e was strong, which is good for us because it gives us something real competition and it gives us -- and they'll have to spend more on it and it gives us a rate we can maybe compete with. but explicitly in that agreement is that pg&e has committed that in its program it will build hundreds of megawatts of solar energy in california and hire people doing it. so, people need to be aware that that's part -- this is not a buildoutless pg&e program. and there is real buildout in it. it's statewide instead of local and it's solar instead of integrated. >>> now, as to the presentation today, a couple of quick things. one is that we need to reel back on the buildout question and ask a very fundamental question that we have been asking of staff that we asked in the last hearing, and that is advocates, many of which