the guy says to me, well, we know you can write about run dmc, but could you write about eric clapton? and he's dismissing my ability. you're good over here in this hip-hop thing, but when we get to the big dogs of music, you are not wanted or valuable or capable of doing it. a horrendous example because i'm a journalist. i could study and interview anybody, and eric clapton in particular some of you will already have thought comes from black music. he comes from the blues. he idolizes jimi hend distribution, so it'd be valuable to have a black writer interview him. but i think some people maybe might have taken that moment and gone, wow, here's where i am. and that did not happen to me. i heard his insult, and i said how am i going to counter this. because i can't turn you in this room. you're not even asking me a question, you're just making an assertion. but i know you're wrong, so how can i change this argument and change this game later on? and years later i did change the game. never got to talk to eric clapton, but i got to interview other white musicians, so proved him wrong.

going on back and forth in the press and were friends on the side and there was a piece where eric claptond, we found it and it's in this movie. i hope you can see it on tv. there's an amazing look on eddie's face as the shot is ending, he looks like a teenager and happy he shared this moment with kurt cobain away from the glare of the media. it's really beautiful. >> jimmy: take a look at this never before seen footage. >> i consider him a person i really like. we had a few conversations on the phone. i really like him. i think he's a really nice person. >> yeah. i remember the sound of his voice. normal stuff, just real -- just real normal. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: more cameron crowe as well as pearl jam coming up. stick around! ♪ ♪ [ cellphone rings ] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 days, it's been 3 weeks. so, i used my citi simplicity card to pick up a few things. and i don't have to worry about a late fee. which is good... no! bigger! bigger! [ monica ] ...because i don't think we're going anywhere for a while. [ male

know, as i would record or tour with some of these artists that i worked with, rolling stones and eric clapton, and george harrison and other artists, i talked about trees, and thee guys sometimes scratched their head, here he goes again. [laughter] it's always the trees, you know? when we would really engage in conversation about these things and these issues, believe it or not, mic and keith and eric, nay all have the same concerns for our environment that we do, and so many other musicians and actors and people in the entertainment business share a deep concern about our environment, and so then one day, this guy that i'd kind of become friends with that happens to be in the advertising and public relations business calls me up on the phone, and he said, chuck, what are you doing? i said, well, i'm hanging, why? you in town? yeah, i'm in atlanta. he said, listen, come by the office, i was a crazy idea, but i want to discuss something with you. i said, all right, sure. i show up there, and he says, listen, you know, i represent some pretty big name clients, coca-cola, at&t, big companies, an

contract there and the guy says to me, we know you can read about run dmc, but could you read about eric clapton and he's dismissing my ability. you are a good over here in this hip-hop thing, but when we get to the big dogs of music, you are not wanted or valuable or capable. it's an horrendous example because i'm a journalist. i can interview anybody terra-cotta in particular comes from black music. he comes from the blues. he idolizes jimi hendrix, so it would be very thoughtful to other black writer cares about the blues of jimi hendrix to interview him. but i think some people may be took that moment and went wow, here's where i am. and that did not happen to me. i heard his assault and said how michael and to counter this? i can't turn you in this room. donovan asked the a question. you're just making an assertion, but i know you're wrong. so how can i change this argument and change this game later on in years later he changed again. never got attacked iraq and, but i did interview other white musicians, so i proved him wrong. >> well, good. >> so i think we've got to diary back because i