third is eric conway, noted historian of science and technology. he works for the california institute of technology or caltech. something new for our audience today, he has just told me he served as an enlisted man in the navy and rose to be an officer in the navy. to me, that says he is a smart maverick in his book says that as well. his new -- new book is the big myth -- how american business taught us to loathe government and love the free market. it is just out a few weeks ago. 550 pages -- it is a piece of history that is one of the most formidable pieces of research and writing i've seen and i was at the university here. i asked if he is the top author writing about the big myth -- the big myth is the belief business knows everything, they can just get on the way and let them solve global warming and covid and they will just take care of it. sure they will. he said i don't know if i am the number one. i said it is the biggest book on the big myth. that is partly because there has been a lot more history. that's what the book is all about. on

third is eric conway, noted historian of science and technology. he works for the california institute of technology or caltech. something new for our audience today, he has just told me he served as an enlisted man in the navy and rose to be an officer in the navy. to me, that says he is a smart maverick in his book says that as well. his new -- new book is the big myth -- how american business taught us to loathe government and love the free market. it is just out a few weeks ago. 550 pages -- it is a piece of history that is one of the most formidable pieces of research and writing i've seen and i was at the university here. i asked if he is the top author writing about the big myth -- the big myth is the belief business knows everything, they can just get on the way and let them solve global warming and covid and they will just take care of it. sure they will. he said i don't know if i am the number one. i said it is the biggest book on the big myth. that is partly because there has been a lot more history. that's what the book is all about. on