eric farnsworth is with us, as well, with the council of the americas. you could look at this story both ways and come up with some conclusion to your benefit. what do you make of what this president is doing and what his assertions have been? eric farnsworth, are you there? he's still getting his mike on. all right. as soon as we get a chance to go to him. raj, take a picture and see if we can listen to what the president is saying. he keeps doing these radio interviews on telephone or talking to family members. let's see what he's saying and what he's trying to accomplish. looks like he's signaling over to -- he's now signaling over to the honduran side, and he's telling someone on the honduran side, tell him to come over. now, remember sh karl penhaul has told us he was trying to get his -- where is olivia, he now asks. karl penhaul told us he was trying to meet up with his family at the border. we haven't seen them. and i want to see my kids. i want to see my wife. i want to see chamara. i'm translating what the president is saying there at the borde