eric farnsworth.n trade commissioner phil hogan says it is important for countries to ease restrictions. he is looking forward to renewed talks with the u.s., speaking exclusively to bloomberg tv. >> in the beginning there was crisis management and the temptation is always there to put up barriers and restrictions and deal with the immediate pay we have to move move -- we have to remove those. at the same time every country will be looking at vulnerability in the context of the pandemic and how they are vulnerable at this time in terms of medicine, pharmaceuticals are they will want to do more local production. this is what is happening all over the world. we need some rethinking and what we should do in terms of working together. i have been reaching out to the united states and wto to see if we can work together and have a speedy recovery. to, i have been talking would have thought ambassador lighthizer. what are your jobs -- one of your jobs before the arrival of the coronavirus was to put the 2018

eric farnsworth is vice president of the council of the americans joins me now from washington d.c. via skype good to have you with us again on the program mr farnsworth and let's just pick up from what john actually said america can keep an eye on the situation because they do anything physically to the tankers as they are all route to venezuela well that's right they can keep an eye on the situation and i believe they will keep an eye on the situation but to this point that's probably the extent of it of course the u.s. navy could. quarantine going to sway a lot could turn the good intercept and turn the ship back but i don't see that happening no working in washington want it war her or any sort of conflict with iran over the swale up in the current circumstances so although the u.s. commander in chief of the southern command has expressed concern over the earth and washington is clearly watching it closely i think in current circumstances that probably going to be. the extent of it there's a very interesting sort of business saw or sanctions dynamic happening here because when t

eric farnsworth he is the vice president of the council of the americas nice to see you eric. what's going on what's your take on all of this who's who's behind it all is the u.s. do you believe the u.s. when they say they have nothing to do with it i come all it's going to join you again it does seem to be very curious circumstance doesn't it sounds like a rogue operation from some people who are trying to be heroes maybe thought that they had some support and even financial support from the interim government of venezuela but after contacts were broken off at the end of last year they decided to go forward anyway and try to force the issue remove the stream of europe i do believe the united states when they say that they don't have any direct connection to this activity and the reason why i say that is because this was an ill advised amateurish afr and indeed if the united states were involved it would have presumably been done very very differently so do you know anything of this this group so vocal. i don't personally know anything about them but from press reports which i

eric farnsworth is the former senior u.s. diplomat. >> it's a very convenient thing to have happened, and one wonders, given how quickly this was identified and how quickly the perpetrators were rounded up, whether this -- whether maduro didn't know in advance and maybe had something to do with it as well. >> reporter: law enforcement officials say goudreau is under arrest for arms trafficking. but they said those two u.s. citizens would face trial in venezuela. gayle? >> very bizarre story there. thank you very much, manny. >>> why drugs deemed saturdays happen. pain happens. aleve it. aleve is proven stronger and longer on pain than tylenol. when pain happens, aleve it. all day strong. rudy got older and suddenly stopped eating...t, then we found freshpet. now rudy's 13, and going on 3. ♪ my children are really worried.. my tip is, send your kids a text. it may be the last time that you do. [announcer] you can quit. for free help, call 1-800-quit now. and the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums and poss