and wrapping up the list, eric foner provides a history of the underground railroad in "gateway to freedom." and that's a list of this week's best nonfiction sellers according to "the new york times". >> host: michael paul, what does net -- michael powell what does net neutrality mean to you? >> guest: it's kind of an abysmal term. when i was chairman in the early 2000s, it always meant to me first and foremost the rights of consumers to enjoy the full blessings of what the internet really promises which is really complete and open platform that allows them to go where they want do what they want in a way that they want and attach innovations to the network in a way that they want in order to bring the internet more fully into their lives, and i think it's a really important principle. i thought so when i first gave that speech, and i think so just as strongly today. >> host: how has the argument and the positioning evolved in the last 15 years? >> guest: you could write a book about it. i mean, i think it's sort of the law of unintended consequences. i think it started off as an engineeri

we then turn to erikc f who is theoner, to which professor at columbia -- we then turn to eric foner, the dewitt professor at columbia. he has written many classics many awards, a lot of this people in this room i think and learn from "free soil, free labor, free men: reconstruction, the story of american freedom," and the new book coming out with norton. right after this, he just told me, you can go to a book signing upstairs in the book exhibit. he is also someone who appears in the areas places, in the media, television, "the colbert report," he has posted up as in newspapers, magazines, and he consults with very is institutions doing public history. we will go to peniel joseph, who is a professor of history attest university and i think one of the i was happy he could participate in this. he's the author of a very good new book that received a lot of attention, and he has become a regular commentator in the national press am a publishing in "new york times" and "washington post." you will see him weighing in on issues in a very serious, smart fashion. we once got on -- in an argum

and wrapping up the list, eric foner provides a history of the underground railroad in "gateway to freedom." and that's a list of this week's best nonfiction sellers according to "the new york times". >> host: michael paul, what does net -- michael powell what does net neutrality mean to you? >> guest: it's kind of an abysmal term. when i was chairman in the early 2000s, it always meant to me first and foremost the rights of consumers to enjoy the full blessings of what the internet really promises which is really complete and open platform that allows them to go where