neither officer involved in michael brown or eric garner's deaths were charged.e officer derek chauvin he couldn't believe chauvin was charged tried and convicted by a jury of murdering george floyd. but seven years after the birth of the black lives matter, how much change has come to the nation's police departments? the "washington post" began tracking deadly police shootings in 2015 a year after michael brown's death and reported last month that officers had shot and killed more than 6,400 people since then. quote, since ferguson, departments across the country have taken steps towards reform but these efforts have been inconsistent and incomplete. most police departments still do not use body cameras. experts in criminal law and justice say there have not been the large scale policy shifts that might reduce uses of force. i am joined by a staff writer at the new york journalism school and an msnbc contributor. also aaron haines. welcome to both of you. this is a massive topic, obviously. you have both been covering this for the duration so you are conscience

then i wrote to, you know, eric garner because i wanted to talk about george floyd and the way in which the blue plague police brutality was devastating. our communities. i wanted to write to sandra bland because i want to talk about white comfort, the degree to which many white brothers and sisters maintain and preserve their comfort at the expense of black life. so these particular things drove the people i chose so that i could have a conversation with them out loud about issues that continue to vex us right now. michael, so many of the names that you mentioned are people that we know because of the videos and viral videos. as a quote is a way you describe the videos in your book. consider these videos, visual autopsy of the slow death of justice when you were putting these stories together, when you revisited the story, says a lot of detail when them did you see it? i've read transcripts, watch videos, over and over again. how do you even do that? yes, that's a great question. yes, to the all the above. i read transcripts. i looked at the videos as painful as they are. and i'm glad

call it whatever you want to call it, getting the attention or rating and eric garner, i remember watching him on that program. a lot of america have been catching up. we are glad that you are on the air and keep leading. you can watch it right here this weekend at 5:00 p.m. "politics nation." thanks to rev. >>> we have the top democratic and the intelligence committee, members of the probe, adam schiff, with news. >>> also, ron desantis, won't like this. he's getting more push back over some of his antisafety measures. believe it or not. the iconic director oliver stone is here. live, stay with us. live, stay with us ♪ music playing. ♪ there's an america we build ♪ ♪ and one we explore one that's been paved and one that's forever wild but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure ♪ ♪ you get both. introducing the all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l jeep. there's only one. usaa is made for the safe pilots. jeep grand cherokee l like mac. who can come to a stop with barely a bobble. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... ...you can save up to 30% on your auto insurance.

the mother of eric garner is here. please join us.ing out -- let me also -- i want to thank, before we do this, let's give a big hand to the black eagle who hosted us today. joe madison. he is always there. an activist in his own right. the one and only, some of you all grew up swooning to him, the great al sure. dr. king and then used to sing a song. we shall overcome. weon't sing it anymore, but i think it would be appropriate today. we should go back to that old spiritual because we are going to overcome. i am honored to sing it with his children. i want to sing with those who are victims -- the floyd's, the eric garner family. this is a rare moment for you to be able to say you stood and sang that old historic song with these families. as we do, i would like jamaal holtz to come and carry the program. please come. our brher, he has been a leader for a long time. the president of the national bar is to speak. i asked the senior pastor, the super pastor of new birth. he brought three busloads appear with him. he is been my friend an

i've known him 35 years, worked together on several things, including the eric garner chokehold law and wage. he did a lot of good things. but these are serious charges. and i told him, i said, let me tell you something, governor. i've talked to the chapter leaders around the state of the national action network, upstays, buffalo, syracuse, long island, and most of the leaders think you should resign. al, hold on, more will come out and he was saying it was political, that the prosecutor, i believe his name was kim, had been after him when he was in the southern district. and i was telling him where the mood was even among people that were allied with him. so i was surprised. he had already kept his defense. yesterday when the announcement came, i was surprised he did it. but i felt as he finally said it had got to where he could not govern. there was nowhere that he could continue to govern. whether he believed or not that what he did was what they said, he couldn't govern. these were very, very serious charges that should not be taken lightly by the state assembly or the state senate.