protect wall street crooks that's what eric holder does this guy who is in charge. the department of justice that was supposed to be looking out for consumers goes back to covington burling goes to work with them he's now he's now back at his job making an awful lot of money not much downside to the people who victimize you if i look at this right jeff in just a i mean if i look at this right with what happened to jeff sessions and eric holder not much downside of them is are well the other thing is that in two thousand and seven when call rove and george bush's twenty teeth out twenty two million e-mails were destroyed it was eric holder's law firm who defended call rove in the republican national committee when congress was trying to hold call rove in contempt so there's a you know there's a and of course is his farm was defending those wall street bankers at the same time yo. yeah don i got to go les we're going to continue we'll do a couple more shows on this is the word is startling by any standard thank you for joining me coming up a few women are taking on th

right jeff and just pick i mean if i look at this right with what happened to jeff sessions and eric holder not much downside of them is are well the other thing is that in two thousand and seven when call rove and george bush's twenty teeth out twenty two million e-mails were destroyed it was eric holder's law firm who defended call rove in the republican national committee when congress was trying to hold call rove in contempt so there's a you know there's a and of course is his farm was defending those wall street bankers at the same time yo. yeah don i got to go les we're going to continue we'll do a couple more shows on this is the word is startling by any standard thank you for joining me coming up a few women are taking on the goliath of california's tech industry by challenging the sexual harassment they encountered while seeking funding for their business ideas that's next states in. the mission of news with it is to go to the people tell their side of the story stories are well sourced we don't hide anything from the public and i don't think the mainstream media in this country ca

call rove and george bush's twenty teeth out twenty two million e-mails were destroyed it was eric holder's law firm who defended call rove in the republican national committee when congress was trying to hold call rove in contempt so there's a you know there's a and of course is his farm was defending those wall street bankers at the same time yo. yeah don i got to go les we're going to continue we'll do a couple more shows on this is the word is startling by any standard thank you for joining me coming up a few women are taking on the goal of california's tech industry by challenging the sexual harassment they encountered while seeking funding for their business ideas that's next. tonight they. told him not to leave by the corporate. would you go after the corporations that just more your life prompted older people to turn. their back it's not for me it's like medicine it's like a cancer to all the stress that the news puts you under redacted tonight is a show where you can go to cry from laughing about the stuff that's going on in the world as opposed to just regular crying we're going t

jamie diamond went and met with eric holder eric holder showed him this document and jamie diamond agreed on behalf of j.p. morgan just to pay the thirteen billion dollars fine. the proviso that this is never made public it's now been made public through freedom of information act requests and so you can see some of it and it's just as shocking as those sacks of the you know the member the goldman sachs stuff and when they had to testify in front of carl levin in front of the in front of the senate right so more a buffet said when the time. wearing a bathing suit so in two thousand and eight the tide went out a serious way bernie madoff clearly was caught up and he was in a vicious j.p. morgan client j.p. morgan client and ponzi scheme and he was busted and it also revealed on the balance sheets of these big banks like i could j.p. morgan massive fraudulent behavior that as you've just described there and during that time they were also engaged in numerable instances of fraudulent behavior illegal behavior and as i said what's amazing is that back in the eighty's when i was working on wal

. >> leon pan et at that and eric holder, they all took private jets. >> to the extent that this administration is taking to the tune of a million dollars in

talk about eric holder. this goes way back. pay close attention to someone standing behind eric holder. [begin video clip] >> the allegations contained in today's indictment represent a per trail of the public trust for personal gain. in essence, this indictment alleges that he used his elective office to perpetrate an extensive fraud on the american people. the wrongful expenditure of taxpayers rules and to the hundreds of thousands of dollars. this is not, as some have suggested, a petty matter. [end video clip] brian: you couldn't see him closely, but he looked younger. randall: i think that was me standing behind his head. brian: what was eric holder doing there and why were you there? randall: i was announcing the indictment. the prosecution team was standing behind him. brian: the biggest question here for the average person watching is, should they trust the system to work? randall: i think if you watch something like the menendez trial, it should give people faith in the system. there are individual cases were the syste

i'm struck by i remember at the press conference that was held, i think with you, eric holder, police chief beck from los angeles talking through the importance of the legislation. what we're seeing in opening remarks an increase in arrest of laerls not targets of federal enforcement action and those around who don't have criminal convictions. the importance of the california act in that environment with the ending of daca and 800,000 individuals who could become unauthorized and arrests in the coming months 430,000 individuals in the country with temporary protected status, many here for 20 years with lawful institu institute -- lawful status if the government does not change that. how do you see it not just now but two or three or four months from now. >> let me put this in context with the values act and see if i can successfully complete the circle. you mentioned tps, daca, the dreamers, those in this country a very long time yet to normalize their status and become permanent residents or temporary residents with a work permit. when i introduced the senate value bill, i had former

and with eric holder. initiative is imperative to protect the 98 percent of the hard-working individuals and that if trump attempts to deputize handed california you cannot do so. whether south carolina or mississippi. and giving to cities in texas like dallas or houston or san antonio. and with the attorney general and the counterpart with that chief architect and then to oppose the universe if you will. although we should not a lot of the way to hurt people. and to hurt as economic prosperity. people have been here 10 or 25 years but the full circle as we are out today. washington is a source of the problem. and that is manifested in local cities or states because they cannot get their act together. to have many states and counties across the country with this patchwork that arthur draconian. and then other progressive people and then atlanta. very progressive. sova met with day governor and the attorney general because the in your state is 1.4 billion. but to count on to hands but you are true hawaiian

that outside counsel is the former he attorney general of the united states, eric holder. to help informative isa legislature on this issue as well as many other issues. we set toward building a wall of resistance to the hateful, destructive and shortsighted agenda currently prevailing here in washington. we have filed a number of lawsuits in consultation with mr. holder as well as her state attorney general. we've expanded access to legal counsel for those immigrants residing in the state of california to ensure due process for all. we pass my bill, senate bill 54 also known as a sanctuary staple to ensure that state and local law enforcement agencies focus solely on their duty to protect and serve our communities regardless of who you are and where you come from, your native language, regardless of who you like. senate bill 54 prohibits law-enforcement agencies include school school please from using resources to enforce federal immigration laws. it creates safe zones that are schools hospitals, churches courthouse is another sensitive locations sort immigrant communitie

one of the nation's top white collar defense attorneys reid weingarten, conveniently friends with eric holdergo school with lanny breuer. lanny breuer head of the d.o.j. criminal division. holder and brewer worked for years at the elite washington law firm where they represented many of the banks responsible for the financial crisis including bank of america, citigroup and jpmorgan chase. holder and breuer joined the obama administration's justice department making sure no one including lloyd blankfein was prosecuted for the financial crash. now they're out of government and back at covington and berling, representing big corporations, did they stop representing big corporation says in covington and berlings millions in political donations just add to the stench of corruption attached to the swampy firm. lawyers are supposed to represent justice, in today's america, it's the exact opposite. too many of them represent the perversion of justice. >>> coming up, tweets and facebook posts on "swamp watch," and we'll reveal what you, our viewers, want to see on upcoming shows. ♪ hey grandpa. hey, k

in 2013 charles grassley, senator grassley, released accountability that eric holder, attorney generalrt mueller, former fbi director, now special prosecutor himself engaged in this sort of practice reimbursing the government at some sort of set rate. so that is basically what tom price did. paul: but now it sounds like this is new standard. these other people weren't disqualified from doing that, why tom price? >> well, because tom price is donald trump's hhs secretary and trump promised to drain the swamp and in some sense this is part of the swamp. the question is whether trump threw him over the side too quickly because trump puts distance between any member of government and him that causes him any problem and do remember even the past week there's been story that trump is now trying to push attorney general jeff sessions out, he's still angry at him for not recusing over the russian probe, so there's a kind of tense relationship between donald trump and his own cabinet. paul: yeah, look, i don't think he should have made himself a target by taking these trips, on the other hand,

in 2014, eric holder took his two daughters, their boyfriends and a couple of secret service agents on stream to go to the belmont stakes for a race. it cost the government $14,400. he paid the government back $955. how much a coach last ticket for one would have cost. now in relation to dr. price, sounds even more outrageous than what he was accused of. >> we're all shocked there is a double standard in the press between what happened in the obama administration, what happens in the trump administration but you know the bottom line is you should try to be consistent whatever the vagueries of mainstream media. david: right. >> if there is a important government mission involved, freakily there are -- frequently there are government planes. fleet for the fbi or the justice department of the idea somehow the domestic cabinet secretaries are so critically needed at any moment they have to be on a private plane because commercial airlines are inconvenient. i'm sorry i'm not sympathetic to it. tom price ace good man. the preside is right. i'morry for thisersonal tragedy. honest to goodness,

in 2013 charles grassley, senator grassley, released accountability that eric holder, attorney generalall people robert mueller, former fbi director, now special prosecutor himself engaged in this sort of practice reimbursing the government at some sort of set rate. so that is basically what tom price did. paul: but now it sounds like this is new standard. these other people weren't disqualified from doing that, why tom price? >> well, because tom price is donald trump's hhs secretary and trump promised to drain the swamp and in some sense this is part of the swamp. the question is whether trump threw him over the side too quickly because trump puts distance between any member of government and him that causes him any problem and do remember even the past week there's been story that trump is now trying to push attorney general jeff sessions out, he's still angry at him for not recusing over the russian probe, so there's a kind of tense relationship between donald trump and his own cabinet. paul: yeah, look, i don't think he should have made himself a target by taking these trips, on t

former attorney general eric holder heading to hollywood. . >>> as holder heads to l.a., oprah winfrey could be plotting a trip to 1600 pennsylvania avenue. a "new york post" enarticle entitled, democrats hope for 2020, oprah. tweeted thanks for your confidence. winfrey says she would never run for office. but that was then. abby: isn't that a race to won? brian: is there anything better than the last one? >>> national spotlight where players linked arms during the national anthem. steve: different scene where hundreds possessed by taking a knee. abby: what does todd piro think? he went to green bay to find out. good morning, todd. >> reporter: lambeau field is special to some football fans, the national anthem is beyond special to some americans. last night before the bears-packers game we spoke to fans what standing for the national anthem means to them. as a veteran when people kneel for the national anthem, what do you think? >> i went through two wars. seen a lot. lost a lot of friend. that flag is actually something. to see that, it's a

eric holder was there, consistently. and you are not seeing that with jeff session says in. >> you are not. it's a shame. sessions ought to resign. a wrote a column on it noks news.com. trish: it's great. >> and before sessions resigns, he should take action against hillary clinton, james comey and susan rice because there's compelling evidence that all three of them may have committed crimes. >> gregg jarrett, thank you very much. i urge everyone to check out your op-ed on foxnews.com. >>> hurricane maria, now a category 5, could be a direct hit on puerto rico and the virgin islands after doing mind-boggling damage to the island of dominica. we have the latest on maria. see you here after this. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. flonase helps block 6. most allergy pills only bloc

one of the nation's top white collar defense attorneys reid weingarten, conveniently friends with eric holderith lanny breuer. lanny breuer head of the d.o.j. criminal division. holder and brewer worked for years at the elite washington law firm where they represented many of the banks responsible for the financial crisis including bank of america, citigroup and jpmorgan chase. holder and breuer joined the obama administration's justice department making sure no one including lloyd blankfein was prosecuted for the financial crash. now they're out of government and back at covington and berling, representing big corporations, did they stop representing big corporation says in covington and berlings millions in political donations just add to the stench of corruption attached to the swampy firm. lawyers are supposed to represent justice, in today's america, it's the exact opposite. too many of them represent the perversion of justice. >>> coming up, tweets and facebook posts on "swamp watch," and we'll reveal what you, our viewers, want to see on upcoming shows. allergies with nasal congestion?

that included robert mueller, leon panetta, eric holder and loretta lynch. white house signed off on 77 military flights for administration officials. that's less than the 94 under obama. what's going on here? >> well, i think the goal here, liz is to not be like the obama administration and i'm sure this is something that the president considered very carefully and looked at the details probably many of the details we're not aware of at this point but he said initially he was not happy about hearing about these flight s and i understand that secretary price apologized. i think that was very good of him to do; however this is supposed to be an administration that wants to end those types of things when unnecessary and it seems like the president decided this was unnecessary. >> liz: you're saying that the president trump and the administration is moving to be completely ethical and you know the president katrina continues to say that dr. price is a good man. why do you think he resigned and the president accepted? >> well i think if you look at the full cont

which was started by attorney general eric holder during the obama administration. last week president trump hosted the prime minister of malaysia given everything else going on, was not the highest profile story in the world. but that visit by the malaysia prime minister was notable in terms of corruption and law enforcement and high public officials finding themselves in the cross hairs of u.s. law enforcement because that malaysia prime minister is at the center of a gigantic department of justice corruption prosecution. the department of justice is trying to recover well over $1 billion in assets, everything from movie rights to private jets to apartments to hotels, all things that were purchased with money that was allegedly stolen from the people of malaysia, from the government of that country. that money was stolen from malaysia but it was laundered in the united states by buying stuff in the united states and the justice department has been heavily and aggressively involved in this gigantic corruption case to try to get that stuff back. so president trump b

i didn't hear people say that eric holder should be fired, that loretta lynch should be fired. >> steven, don't. trump said that price should be fired. donald trump said that price -- donald trump is the one firing these people. >> i know. because when he -- that's why he's not being hypocritical. he's saying, look, if you are abusing the public trust, if you think that you're somehow royalty because you're in the government, no, that's not -- they're not going to tolerate that in the trump administration. i think it's appropriate. i don't like government officials abusing the public trust, and i think in this case the public trust was abused. >> david, i want you to weigh in on this because you've been sitting by just sort of watching this happen. with your popcorn. but listen, you say if president trump did this he wouldn't face any punishment. why not? >> well, the rules are different for the president. conflict of interest rules are different for the presidents because the people pick presidents. the cabinet officials are chosen by the president. they don't have the same level of acc

i didn't hear people say that eric holder should be fired, that loretta lynch should be fired. >> steven, don't. trump said that price should be fired. donald trump said that price -- donald trump is the one firing these people. >> i know. because when he -- that's why he's not being hypocritical. he's saying, look, if you are abusing the public trust, if you think that you're somehow royalty because you're in the government, no, that's not -- they're not going to tolerate that in the trump administration. i think it's appropriate. i don't like government officials abusing the public trust, and i think in this case the public trust was abused. >> david, i want you to weigh in on this because you've been sitting by just sort of watching this happen. with your popcorn. but listen, you say if president trump did this he wouldn't face any punishment. why not? >> well, the rules are different for the president. conflict of interest rules are different for the presidents because the people pick presidents. the cabinet officials are chosen by the president. they don't have the same level of acc

eric holder was the attorney general and familiar would by loretta lynch both in the obama administrationtitled to ask why they didn't file civil rights charges in the case? >> sean: when the incident was happening, we saw the lack of coverage and we had all. videotape of all of the people committing crimes and it was never followed up. we see a window broken there. >> yes, but we had the obama justice department was suing over the united states for aemgedvilles of civil right and browbeating them in to settlements, including ferguson. and they filed cases all over the country. but they did not file here. the rich calla hanspent his life as a prosecutor and judge and he looked at this case and declined to prosecute. it was not until a few months ago, when outgoing prosecutor in the city of st. louis filed the charges and leaving kim garden to bring the case this year. kim gardener is criticized for her incomp tents and weakness on crime each by the paper in st. louis. >> looks like they are building the american flag. we'll take a break and we'll have more from st. louis. this is a busy b

in a bipartisan vote in 2012, the house of representatives held attorney general eric holder in contemptcongress for refusing to turn over documents in the fast and furious case. president obama blocked congress from getting the documents by using executive privilege the one and only time of his presidency. 80,000 pages were later released under a court challenge. at a little publicized hearing oversight committee chairman jason chaffetz said congress is still trying to convince the outstanding documents. rep. chaffetz: litigation is ongoing as the department of justice continues its unprecedented stonewalling of congress and the terry family and i'm sorry to report under the trump administration, this has not changed. this has not changed. sharyl: dodson testified at the hearing alongside brian terry's mother, looking back at his decision to blow the whistle. john dodson: that decision -- the single act of standing up and saying, "what we are doing is wrong" -- instantly took my standing from being an agent of the government to being an enemy of the state. sharyl: members of both partie

mark we have regulations but we don't have anyone in forcing regulations and i talked with eric holderformer attorney general in washington d.c. one on one personally i asked him about this as well i say just basically what laundering billions for mexican drug cartels and his response basically was he had no remorse over the thousands of deaths in mexico due to his direct actions by allowing a just be say to conduct a immoral unethical acts of terrorism and he smiled about it and he walked away as if that was somehow cute and this guy lives to breathe another day that's unconscionable that is unconscionable in america it's completely unacceptable anyway let's move on i mean you know what are going to do if the american people are going to sit back and take it that's their prerogative now well now that they've taken it to the op opposite extreme you had this group called fed up usa is that it now you know after railing against the fed they're now demanding of people security well away max isn't a people's cure we what we saw. back in france that caused the guillotines to roll people's h

host: eric holder, former general, writes in the "washington post" today saying the dreamers i know, he says the undocumented ed youth a chance to work and study here without fear of deportation. the program provided a two-year grant of protection and permit legally in the united states, after which enrollees were required to go through a process to qualify. immigrant his to meet a set of stringent criteria, immigrant his to meet a set of stringent criteria, required to have been enrolled in high school, have a high school diploma or equivalent and be honorably discharged veteran. in the e to have lived united states continuously at least since june 15th, 2007 and record, a criminal suggesting they pose a threat to national security or public safety. guest: the problem with all that, it was executive fiat. live in a monarchy or just write hisan own law. what we needed was congress to make these provisions in a balanced way. i will give this, congress act.t do it, they didn't we've had inaction since 2013, when the compromise failed. the president to take a law and reinterpret it or r

we hired eric holder, and he helped us create a non-discrimination policy.t that says you will not discriminate against people including allowing people of all background in their home. we noticed white sremaups st for one of their rallies and we prevented them. >> another reason your mom and dad are here today are very proud. your mom said she thought it was off the wall when they heard the idea, your dad was praising you for the idea. they thought they were going to work in art and here you are. >> here i am. >> congrats. good to have you at the table, brian chesky. exactly six decades ago today the little rock nine made history. a new documentary that focuses on inequality in the classroom. it has caught the attention of a famous director. she and the film's director talked to our brianna golodryga about that. >> it spoke to my film in a way, and we're trying to deconstruct the truths that are supposed to be evident that are actually falsehoods. >> ahead, why they say there's still intense segregation in schools. you're watching "cbs this morning." we alw

you wrote this in 2012 in both health care and immigration context eric holder and president obama arelacking in constitutional awareness or have so politicized the justice department it is no longer a reliable indicator of the law. today when they ended daca you were angry. >> i am angry. there is no need to change it at this moment. people have relied opinion it. there is a due process assumption if you follow the law and play by the rules and you come forward and identify yourself the government isn't going to throw you out again. so frankly whatever means we got to where we are, we are where we are and i'm not about to suggest that those people who have now selfed identified and presented their information to the federal government should be -- you know, ejected simply because they changed their mind. i want to add one thing, though, to what josh was saying, you know there, is no argument that this is of any necessity now. this is a completely artificial deadline that sessions and these republican attorneys general came up with to force trump's hand and whether trump is dim witted

attorney general eric holder over the summer at the naacp convention and what mueller is doing, he has a broad scope and this is within his purview to do this. so it's just -- it keeps unfolding day after day. there are things we still don't know they're doing and uncovering. it is very interesting the twists and turns. we always thought this could be part of this investigation but now we're hearing the affirmation that it is. >> bob, listen, is there particular importance to the fact this is the first time the president's actions are directly under scrutiny? >> i think it shows the investigation is rambling up. when you think about when this is going to end. it can't end around the election time. if they are going to wrap up this investigation it has to be in the first half of next year and clearly they are leaning on manafort. they are using very intimidating tactics with him, raiding his house, picking his lck while he is there asleep in the morning. and also threatening indictments and clearly they have some stuff, it appears, on manafort. what do they want to know from him? the ot

criminal contempt, as in the eric holder case in which people can be held criminally responsible forivil contempt, in which you sue the fbi and force them through federal judge to turn over the documents. >> sean: the fact he had a conclusion before an investigation, on top of everything else that we know was comey, leaking to get a special counsel is beyond corrupt. here's my next question. i just had dana rohrabacher on. i've interviewed julian assange five times. julian assange is the one guy in the world that's telling the truth. he's never been proven wrong in 11 years. unlike "the new york times" and "washington post" and cnn. here's my question. does mueller have an obligation to go and try and find out from the one person who knows where the information about emails, dnc, all came from? >> absolutely does but don't expect him to do it. that would be fidelity -- robert mueller appears to me, this is my opinion to have an agenda. he is in bed with james comey for an act of retribution, the firing of comey, to go after the president of the united states. he has a complicit mains

you wrote this back in 2012, in both health care and immigration context, eric holder and president obamae department it's no longer a reliable indicator of the law. today when they basically ended daca, you were angry. what happened? >> i am angry. first of all, there's no pending legislation -- there's no pending need to change it at this moment, people have relied upon it. there's a due process assumption we have in this country if you follow the law, you play by the rules, you come forward and identify yourself the government isn't going to turn around and throw you out again. we are where we are, and i'm not good to suggest that those people who have now self-identified, presented their information to the federal government should be, you know, ejected simply because they have changed their mind. i want to add one thing to what josh was saying. you know, there is no argument that this is of any necessity now. this is a completely artificial deadline that sessions and these republican attorneys general came up with in order to force trump's hand. whether trump is dim-witted and being

a lot of these red herrings are talking about eric holder or loretta lynch or even director comey using private airplanes. but the problem is they're supposed to due to security purposes. we need to be honest about this discussion. >> there are times when it is warranted. i'll give you the last word. >> i was going to say this one point that we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge the fact that donald trump may be a little in his feelings about the fact that obamacare repeal has not yet passed. tom price is also an easy target. that's why it was so easy to let him go. >> because he's the guy that was going to do it. >> absolutely. >> is that part of the reason why price lost his job, andre? >> i don't have any knowledge of it. i hope that's not true. for not setting a good example and being a good steward. >> see? he's double speak. no, your skype is repeating everything you say. we're having a little fun with you, andre. >> you got hacked by the russians. >> unfortunately, i have to go. have a great weekend. we'll be right back. hi, i'm mike ditka. and i'm johnny bench. and we've

also with us, matt miller, former spokesman of eric holder and a msnbc contributor. ron, i want to go first of all, i want both of your opinions about what the white house press secretary said today about james comey and was there a possible crime, a violation of law by james comey in the release of his memos of his conversations with the president? ron, you first on that one. >> you know, i worked in two white houses and administrations. i worked at the justice department. in any other administration, the attorney general would have been on the phone with the president demanding the firing of the white house press secretary and that would have only been exceeded with the speed with which the white house counsel to insist on the firing of the white house press secretary. it is not the job of the white house press secretary to stand at that pose podium and suggest that the justice department launch criminal investigations against people that the president doesn't like. in fact, that's not the job of any political official in our democracy and not the way a democracy w

we go to the heart of this letter -- >> eric holder. >> laid out some very practical guidelines that just a republican president but democratic president as well and anybody in between. the answer to your question, i'm not sure that donald trump has read the letter. if he has read the letter it's apparent he hasn't taken that to heart. eight months where this white house has been consumed with scandal and palace intrigue. this is exactly what we did not have under obama. >> jack, hang on a second. i do have to say cnn reporting suggests he shows this to several visitors to the oval office, is very proud and cherishes this letter. i want to ask you about the first piece of advice, though. he says it's up to us to do everything we can to build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard. it's been reported also by politico that if president trump kills the dreamers program that that will be the one thing that gets president obama to speak out against trump on facebook and perhaps on twitter. was he talking in that first bit of advice about the dreamer

was there and former attorney genre -- attorney general eric holder. they even taught job interview techniques. they have done this so far in l.a., phoenix, seattle, dallas, chicago and now d.c. sam ford, abc7 news. alison: wow! encouraging. nancy: remarkable. what a great resource. alison: sam tells us of the 5,000 people who went to the job fair, 1,800 of them got at spot. nancy: some of them got jobs on the spot. a really great day all around. alison: there we go. nancy: coming up, or meantime, "7 on your side" health matters report about a new device that can save lives. the university of california berkeley and san francisco students have teamed up to figure out a better way to diagnose pneumonia. the diagnosis is often made with a chest x-ray but in some countries those can be hard to get. so this is why they created tabla. the inspiration here, the many children they say killed each year worldwide by pneumonia. will they would turn the tablet device on and place it on the patient's chest. >> process it in real-time. nancy: diagnosis lets the doc

. >> you're in a different position than eric holder or barack obama.hey would be the first to -- >> granted. granted. i guess what i'm getting to is, you know, i worked very collaboratively with president jimmy carter when i was secretary of state. we would never have been able to end the wars in el salvador and nicaragua had it not been for jimmy carter. he and i were asked to co-chair a presidential commission on a federal election reform, and we proposed -- get this now -- we proposed photo i.d.s to vote. >> i saw that. >> you know why? because president carter said, and i totally agree, if a minority has a government-issued photo i.d., very few voting registrars are ever going to try to deny them the right to vote. but now you'd think that voter i.d. -- photo i.d.s to vote were the worst thing in the world. that's bad that we've done that. >> well, let me back up for a second and put a button on this. i want to ask you about a few other things here. we could talk about this all day. >> yeah, we could. >> you say both sides play identity politics. w

us now, david frahm for the atlantic, matt miller, former spokesman for former attorney general eric holder and judge sugarman from fordham university. david, your reaction to this news today from deep inside the trump administration which remains the leakiest white house in history, even after general kelly came in there to stop the leaks. "the new york times" has apparently when you look at it more sources than they needed to construct this dramatic scene for us today. >> it's important i think to give credit to attorney general sessions who has held fast. he's been obviously as you can see here under ferocious presidential pressure, wanted the investigation stopped. jeff sessions who stepped out of the way to allow rod rosenstein to make the decision. under unrelenting pressure and stayed the course. sessions is a very conservative person. but he is an institutionalist and put in a position before the nomination where i think for reasons of self preservation, he said things that were not true in front of a senate committee. i think that must rankle him. he is not an untruthful person by

i want see the jeff sessions and eric holder have a discussion. let it all out.ays, the two of them would be emblematic of this polarization that is out there. this view that it is a polarized conversation. >> so i don't think -- i don't think it would ever happen. i agree with eric. i want to take a bit of an issue with what alonzo said. particularly on criminal justice reform. that is an issue where you have a bipartisan level of agreement and you have a lot of data. data that doesn't lie in terms of the adverse effects that certain communities in this country, most notably african-americans have suffered, based on the way the criminal justice system was set up. and i think there are a lot of people who look at the penalties for crack cocaine. first it was powder cocaine back there in those crime bills. people who look at the actual effect over the years and this was a bipartisan effort that was launched under the obama administration. that the koch brothers were very involved. i think president obama would be the first to say that he wished he could have addre

second hand, what the department of justice can do, is do what it did under president obama with eric holderent can come in and have a finding that suggests a systemic pattern of segregation, of intimidation, of discrimination, of gjim crow, ad then they can work with that police department to work out the kinks and to address its systemic inequities. we know under jeff sessions this department just decided yesterday or the day before that it will withdraw an obama era consent degrees, if you will, with these department, and will withdraw that leg of the justice department that looks into these matters. so not only are we handcuffed in terms of the burden of proof, the disinclination of the trump justice department to take seriously the claims of regular citizens against the police departments. this is the vicious consequence of not only the limitations structurally placed on the justice department, but the kind of rise of this white incen insensitivity under president trump that really beclouds this nation. >> all right, mike dyson, thank you. >>> it is the next best thing on the president'

and those two words are attorney general, which he still is, and he gets to undo the work of eric holdernd loretta lynch on voting rights. he needs to make sure that our criminal sentences are long as they need to be. he gets to increase ass asset forfeiture. he's an attorney general who got yelled at but he's still an attorney general and that's a heck of a good job. >> i guess that's true. you know, sessions -- i hear you but he seems to be on a run to do trump's bidding now more than ever, right? he was the one. the president didn't want to announce that daca was ending the popular program. no. he sends jeff sessions out. he takes the public shaming for doing it and when asked how he feels about it, here's what he says about his boss. >> how is your relationship with the president these days? >> he is great. we had a good time with him yesterday and his positive leadership just comes through. we have a great time. >> jeffrey, does the man have no pride? >> well, look, he's a subordinate. i think anyone who works for the president in any administration recognizes that they work for the