eric jackson is ironfire capital's founder and a yahoo! shareholder. what do you think? can she deliver? >> i don't think so, mandy. i think today was just a lot of regurgitation of sound bites that we've heard -- >> okay. we seem to be losing eric a little. okay. should we try for eric maybe in a second? should we try him again? okay. while we're trying to sort out the technical issues here, let's trade yahoo! on the desk. what we heard so far from eric is he's not sure whether she can turn it around. what do you think, guys? >> eric's been very consistent. he's been a huge, huge critic of marissa mayer. but here's the story. here's the main headline that i saw today, that they are working with the irs to try to figure out a tax-free spin for their alibaba stake. that's the story right now. but here's the thing. yahoo! can't really get out of its own way because alibaba can't. the stock is still very much tied to it. there's a massive, massive ipo lockup coming in september for alibaba. 1.4 billion shares here. so that's really what's keeping yahoo! under wraps here and

jackson: is that eric, who you were talking about? >> yes, and annie phipps, who had been from westberry and wanted to fly the atlantidayand financing the flight that amelia earhart took? jackson: there's also the designer of chamberlain and levine's plane. he is married to a woman from omaha and her sister myrtle brown came out from omaha wanting to be an art student in new york. she sat around a table when all of this was going on and decided to be a flyer and during this period she was going to be the first woman to make it across the atlantic. she decided this when she dt -- did not have a license, a plane, or a backer, but she dt -- did find a catholidaypriest -- did find a catholic priest from pittsburgh who said he would fly with her if she would fly to rome. he was going to fly to rome and she became the first licensed female pilot in delaware, and she also became one of only 25 female pilots to hold a commercial pilot's license in the united states. the last story i had of her was that myrtle brown kind of have the quarter fro

here is kevin jackson and eric guster. when you see he keeps showing up at these high profile events what is your interpretation of it? to me i don't see any good out of it. >> he's a modern day al sharpton. trying to make a name for himself being an agitator. if i'm not mistaken, i didn't follow this too closely. i think south carolina didn't want him. even in ferguson i was on hand when they rejected jesse jackson. many cases they spoke out against sharpton. i think people are sick of guys like deray who don't add anything to the fabric of the discussion. he's there to start trouble. he's paid to do it. it's very unfortunate. >> and eric he told me he doesn't work. i guess this is his full time job. i have a problem because then it looks like a community is acting a certain way. i think the untold story of charleston is all of the family members that lost loved ones they were out there saying in extremely forgiving way they forgive this guy, even though he killed their relatives. that's an untold story in my view. >> tha