. >> let's bring in stephanie link of high tower advisers, eric johnson, stephanie is a cnbc contributor. good to see both of you. erica, to you first, you're still super negative and i'm wondering what still prevents you from being positive even in incrementally. you seem to be doubling down every time you come on >> there is not a lot to be positive about we would disagree with this new found view that the chances of a soft landing, no landing, or the chances of recession going down, we would disagree with that view completely i think if you look at all of the coincident indicators, payroll is one of them and the current strength of the consumer, they're doing great. labor market remains somewhat tight. but that's not a forward looking indicator. if you look at the forward looking indicators and you look at things like the fact that we're at 3.4%, unemployment rate, which is by definition the top of the cycle, delayed reaction to fed hikes to some degree whether six months or two years, leading economic indicators for ten months in a row, consumer excess savings they still have, going