welcome back to will the part that eric jones director of the european and eurasian studies at johns hopkins university mr jones i don't want to get into these old argument but the only way to enforce international norm is to comply with it yourself you know there is a very extensive record on the part of western countries of interfering militarily or by other means into the internal affairs of other countries of russia including so the best way i think from moscow to encourage russia to do something would be to sat an example why do you think it's so difficult for western capitals to just show russia and other countries the way the right way so it's really interesting that you say that i mean you know as a political scientist and as a political scientist there's a guy robert axelrod who's who's done studies of this type of thing in the in the studies what axelrod has been able to show is that the most effective way to enforce a norm is not to allow other countries to break the norm and to give them a pass right but rather it's to recognize the mistakes that you make yourself and i th

judgment pave the way to a more measured policy down the line well to discuss that i'm now joined by eric jones director of european and the eurasian studies at johns hopkins university professor jones it's great to talk to you thank you very much for your time well thank you very much for having me on your show now we are in the midst of this really unprecedented u.k. russia rao a rally that has already the entire world involved to be just witnessed pretty heated exchanges at the united nations security council the other day and if you put the political posturing aside what lies between russia and the u.k. both geographically and economic plan to some extent politically is europe is it clear to you at this point what stance europe is going to take in this whole controversy well i think i think it's pretty clear that europe has been united in its russian policy particularly since about two thousand and fourteen and that europe has been united particularly in response to this incident so i don't i don't suspect that we're going to see deep divisions emerging in europe either around this issue or

judgment pave the way to a more measured policy down the line well to discuss that i'm now joined by eric jones director of european and eurasian studies at johns hopkins university professor jones it's great to talk to you thank you very much for your time well thank you very much for having me on your show now we are in the midst of this really unprecedented u.k. russia rao a rally that has already the entire world involved to be just witnessed pretty heated exchanges of the united nations security council the other day and if you put the political posturing aside what lies between russia and the u.k. both geographically and economic plan to some extent politically is europe is it clear to you at this point what stance europe is going to take in this whole controversy well i think i think it's pretty clear that europe has been united in its russian policy particularly since about two thousand and fourteen and that europe has been united particularly in response to this incident so i don't i don't suspect that they. we're going to see deep divisions emerging in europe either around this issue

welcome back to well the party eric jones director of european and eurasian studies at johns hopkins university mr jones i don't want to get into these old argument but the only way to enforce international norm is to comply with it yourself you know there is a very extensive record on the part of western countries of interfering militarily or by other means into the internal affairs of other countries of russia including so the best way i think from moscow to encourage russia to do something would be to sat an example why do you think it's so difficult for western capitals to just show russia and other countries the way the right way so it's really interesting that you say that i mean you know as a political scientist and as a political scientist there's a guy robert axelrod who's who's done studies of this type of thing in the in the studies what axelrod has been able to show is that the most effective way to enforce a norm is not to allow other countries to break the norm and to give them a pass right but rather it's to recognize the mistakes that you make yourself and i think that

they just fired on martin jones with great success. there's eric hala slinging it in, and they have a 2-0 lead, and the beat goes on. knights are golden again, look at that! just weaving through spectacularly. >> looks like me out there on the ice. >> yeah, that's just like you! 4-0 after one, and the las vegas goalie in the post- season, his third shut out. he had 33 saves. 7-0 shut out, game two the sharks will try and put this in the shredder saturday in vegas. >>> good news for the warriors getting ready for a saturday get together with the new orleans pelicans. steph curry worked out in a normal practice fashion today. he's been upgraded from day-to- day to questionable and very well could see action saturday night at the oracle. and all in all a good day for the golden state warriors. >>> it is time, we have time to check this out. and here's your baseball play of the day. herrera, back to the ground, matt cook behind the back snag for a d-back snag there. look at it in slow motion. that's not easy to do. >> like a hockey goalie there. >> ref

eric had one. he was the only shark over martin jones who won a stanley cup.is also plenty familiar with his upcoming nemesis, marc-andre fleury, goaltender for the sharks's opponents the golden knights of vegas. >> fleury is probably one of the goalies who scored the most in my career. we talk about it. i have played a lot of games against them. ericwhen washington-pittsburgh was a big rivalry we had some big games. i like to bug him about that a little bit. >>> the raiders are generating buzz leading up to the nfl draft not just for who they might add but for who they already added. speculation about the power dynamic between gruden and the general manager. >> he is the bowling ball of -- he is great. i mean, i love the fire. i love the enthusiasm. we could talk football all day. i mean, it's been really good. i'm excited to watch him on the grass, you know, and -- and -- and get out there and watch practice. >> do you believe in miracles? down goes frazier! the band is on the field. some of the most iconic sports calls in history. this surely will not join

eric: bound to come up as a bit of an understatement. and there is syria, of course pressing global matters. thank you. >> julie: president trump's reaction, chief editor for the dow jones newswire glenn hall joins me now. this book gets dirty. talk about mudslinging. i love a good catfight. in this book, he actually refers to the president as a mob boss. the president firing back on twitter calling him, and this is a quote, a untruthful slimeball. the fact that a former fbi director is verbally assaulting the sitting president of the united states not shocking coming from comey but very disappointing. >> very unusual as well and already many people are talking about the fact that comey is himself a star witness in a special prosecutor's investigation, whether he should be talking about his investigation at all in the published work. there's a lot of questions about whether this book is appropriate for this time. >> julie: he's a former fbi director. how does this look for fbi? speak with the people i know when the intel community rarely if at all speak about what they did during their time there. and is very unusual then to have a tell-all book come out from the fbi di