i interviewed eric lander. i want to be sure i was right about this and what that although there was the same thing. they said this class, i went to the lectures. i went back, i talked to some of my fellow students which i could easily do in the online forums. i worked very very hard on the problem sets which is at the core of an experience in that kind of introductory science class. and i took the exams. that's how they teach the class at mit, and you can replicate that essentially perfectly at a marginal cost to the last student of nothing. probably cost them a couple hundred thousand dollars to produce the class quote-unquote. they put it out there and now anyone can take it for free. the combination i think of the fact that we can reach so many more people for so much less money, and in certain elements but certain important elements of higher education, the fact that the reach of information technology continues to expand the fact that we can predict confidently that these four people in places like stanfo

aspen ideas festival or come to our action forum or come to our strategy groups, you know like eric landerm. somebody you may not know. i hope he writes a book someday so you'll have him on. but he does -- he's helping do, complete more sequencing of the genome at mit and hard voir -- harvard. but he's a humanist as well so he understands how we're going of of the day that bases that are going to help us build -- databases that are going to help us build new drugs, but how our privacy concerns are going to be affected. we may have to have a system where we say, count me in. i want my genetic, you know, information to be shared so that people can make things or i don't want it. those fascinate me and that's why i like being at the institute. it's not just about political stuff, it's about real interesting issues where science intersects with society, policy and business that i hope we can have practical solutions. >> host: lee bullhead city arizona. please go ahead with your question or comment. >> guest: thank you. took me seven calls and about an hour to get through. >> host: welcome. >>