eric larson is next talking about the sinking of the lusitania and the influence of an american fleet in world war i. [applause] .. some of the voyage colliding with this tragedy that passengers don't know their sailing into? it is like the collision of those ideas? >> note . i was drawn to the "lusitania" because i have this maritime thing, everyone does, the "titanic," the flying dutchman, i think what happens is there is something about the idea of being any amount of what happened to you, that is what taps into my brain. >> the isolation of it? >> the isolation and romance, and suddenly -- that is my scandinavian roots. and from minnesota and south dakota. >> you won them over. >> being scandinavian, and we are a seafaring people. before su falls, we were pillaging from the sea. >> you were that night. >> we were that died. you know something about the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald. i think this kind of defies your theory because there was nothing all that glamorous. it is and worship on lake superior and yet it is something the the anniversary of the sinking that we observed, an