eric lichtblau who is author of the new book "the nazis next door: how america became a safe haven for the story of who america was in the context of world war ii. what is it that about the story that we tell ourselves that is actually wrong? >> well, i think there's a lot of mythology surrounding the end of the war. first of all, we think a lot of the nazis fleeing to argentina, to latin america. there were thousands who got in to the united states. at least 10,000 or more. some of them were actively recruited by the united states government. either as scientists or spies, informants. and we also think wrongly that the survivors who outlasted hitler's regime soon were welcome to new homes, to hot showers, to warm meals. in fact, thousands and thousands of 9 survivors were still left in the same concentration camps behind barbed wire, under armed guard, some being bunked with nazi p.o.w.s. so there's this horrible, cruel irony to the fact that it was so difficult for the survivors to get out of the concentration camps, and it was so easy for the nazis to get in to america. >> and i jus