eric nelson was the one thing standing between the jury and lunch. i don't mean to be glib but this is an important issuer at the trial. also we heard nelson mischaracterize the facts and the law in this case. so he was arguing that the state must convince the jurors that other factors played no role in (indiscernible). to be clear, other factors can play a role. chauvin's conduct need only be . chauvin's conduct does not need to be the singular cause of george floyd's death. >> you know. go ahead. sorry. i was going to say, alexis, i was surprised by how often eric nelson went back to video footage of george floyd's death to make his case, when all of that footage seems to be the star witness, really, of the prosecution. did that strike you as well? >> it did. what we saw nelson do was focus not as much on the nine minutes and 29 seconds that is the heart of the state's case, but rather the 16 minute before chauvin locked his knee into george floyd's neck, and, so, we're seeing the same moment from multiple angles, multiple body-worn camera perspect

>> well, let me address eric nelson's style. one of the things he has done throughout this trial is he uses all these hypotheticals. pigs can grow wings and fly hypotheticals and they have nothing to do with the facts of this case. elie has talked about it, the chief has talked about it, the whole concept of distraction. we know, unfortunately, the way our jury system works, particularly in these cases, all you need is one juror, you need the argument about these hypotheticals that aren't related to the facts of this case resonate with one juror. and that one juror won't get you an acquittal but it can get you to a hung jury, which in this case by some standards would be a victory for derek chauvin. but i think most jurors, all jurors i've dealt with in my trial experience, they understand that that's legalese, that's what lawyers do. they get paid to do. and i think the prosecution has done such a good job of keeping them focused on the 9 minutes and 29 seconds. getting this em to realize none of that is relevant until you put

so eric nelson getting his notes together in this courtroom.nd watch. >> we'll go off of notes instead of the power point. before the break, we talked about the controlled substances and the role that they were -- the levels that they were found in, the role that they may have applied or contributed to mr. floyd's death. and i was suggesting to you that it is, again -- this needs to be looked at. the death needs to be looked at as dr. baker describes a multifactorial process. this is the way the human body works. the heartbeats, the lung breathes, the blood circulates, the brain thinks, the brain controls all of our movements, right? all of this. and to simply come in and say this particular substance or these combinations of substances, when taken in combination with each other, when taken in combination with a person who has blockage in the heart, substantial significant blockage in the heart, when we know that these drugs play a particular role in the -- in how the blood circulates, to just poo-poo it and say it has nothing to do with anythi

. >> host: the state yesterday and for derek chauvin it was attorney eric nelson talking about what the state must prove to convict his client. >> no crime is committed if a police officers actions were justified by the police officer's use of reasonable force in the line of duty in effecting a lawful arrest or preventing an escape from custody. that kind and degree of force a police officer may lawfully use and executing his duties is limited by what a reasonable police officer in the same situation would believe to be necessary. any use of force beyond that is not reasonable. to determine if the actions of the police officer were reasonable, you must look at those facts which a reasonable officer in the same situation would have known at the precise moment the officer acted with force. you must decide whether the officer's actions were objectively reasonable in light of the totality of the facts and circumstances confronting the officer, and without regard to the officers own subjective state of mind, contingent or motivations. the defendant is not guilty of a crime if the use force a

just explain to us the key points from eric nelson over the last hour or so, from eric nelson over thec nelson who is| the lead attorney for derek chauvin has been speaking around about two hours. his main point is that the prosecution did not prove. the burden of proof is in the prosecution that derek chauvin's use of force was excessive and the cause of force was excessive and the cause of death was oxygen deficiency directly arising from derek chauvin kneeling on his neck. he has now gone on to the specifics, he spent may be the first hour talking about police use of force, and the standard here is called the reasonableness standard, that any other reasonable officer given the same training derek chauvin had would have done the same thing. that is what the attorney eric nelson has been trying to prove to the jury. larry, eric is back on his feet now. and i think we will rejoin this coverage now. so we will just so we willjust go off notes, instead of the powerpoint. before the break, we talking about the controlled substances and the role, the levels that they were found and the lev

that is the legal standard that eric nelson pushed him on. you heard eric nelson try to make the points, points he's been suggesting in the past during other cross-examinations including this one interesting moment, chuck. i hesitate to play this video. but i want you to hear it because this is a suggestion that eric nelson makes. it's the first time we heard this suggestion and the key thing here is that based on the pull notes, this is definitely ai moment you saw the jurors taking note. listen to that line of questioning we heard from eric nelson. >> stop. please. >> did you hear what he said? >> no. i couldn't make it out. >> does it sound like i ate too many drugs. listen again. >> so you hear that suggestion. he's trying to say that george floyd said while he was restrained, ate too many drugs after playing that video. that was the first time we heard. that we went through some court documents, pretrial motions that were filed in the past and it did not show up in there. so you get a sense of the points that eric nelson and the defense

it is not prediced this jury. >> here again in minneapolis. >> eric nelson, that was not the first time have the jury sequestered. when the family announced the settlement with the city, he tried to get the sequester then. when daunte wright died in the nearby suburb of brooklyn center, he tried to get the sequester because he said is it impossible to ignore it. he is familiar with what is happening behind, how heavily fortified the city is, multiple security people here. the understanding is the jud told the jury not to pay attention to the media at all and question one juror who said they turned on the tv. right now, they are completely cut off from the media, the internet, their families. there is concern about how much that could have influence on what the jury will decide here and whether legal experts say eric nelson is throwing things at the wall to see what sticks to try to get the client, his client, derek chauvin, off the hook. he tried to get a mistrial because he says the prosecution misstated the law. the judge denied that. he tried every possible way to get derek chauvin f

so eric nelson's argument really is a hollow one. it's like poking holes in water. without anybody knowing whether the jury heard those comments or whether they have any effect on them or will have an effect on them, i think, is fool's gold. there's no evidence of that. and the judge, quite frankly, he didn't ask the jury when he had the opportunity this morning had anybody listened to the news. so i think there's no issue on appeal now. i think it's gone. >> he instructed them at the beginning of this trial not to listen to the news even though they weren't sequestered. now they're all sequestered as they deliberate. all eyes are on these 12 members of the jury. how long do you expect the deliberations potentially could take? >> well, it's hard to guess. but if i were to look at what the jury is going to do, they have to evaluate three criminal charges. there was a lot of evidence produced here. i know juries take this job so, so seriously. i don't think there's going to be a quick verdict. i don't see it coming down tomorrow. wednesday is a possibility. thursday,

the reporter describes, at the beginning of eric nelson's closing arguments that, based on the eyes. of course, everyone is wearing a mask in the room there. this pool reporter says the jury looks much more confused or curious, possibly skeptical of nelson's arguments. but they pay attention, throughout. one note, though. when we got to the end of -- not the end of his closing arguments, but when we got to the end, right before that break that we just took. about-15-or-so minutes ago, the pool reporter says the jury is getting antsy. several are rubbing their eyes and fidgeting. they have now been sitting, this pool reporter notes, for over two hours and have not had that lunch break. and they say when nelson apologized for being longwinded. that's something you heard him do repeatedly during his closing argument. he believes -- this reporter believes that he was reading the faces of the jurors. so it seems like, you know, the -- the extensive argument thas we are hearing there did have some effect. we know that, previously, in testimony, during some of the witness testimony, in the p

we heard that extensive cross examination from eric nelson. you continue to get the idea that the prosecution is trying to say that the use of force that derek chauvin exerted on that day, on may 25th, was excessive, was not what a reasonable officer would do and you get the idea that eric nelson, in his defense, is trying to continue to poke holes in that, that there are different circumstances and instances in which certain elements of that force might be appropriate. and that's what you're kind of hearing as we are listening to this testimony now, geoff. >> and, captain pruitt, taking a larger view of this trial, we have heard extensive testimony from derek chauvin's police colleagues, police chief, trainers, supervisors, all of whom have said in various ways his use of force was excessive and chauvin has extensive training, policy and knowledge of that. what has been the compound impact of all of that testimony? have you ever seen a trial where so many police officials testify effectively against a former officer? >> i have never seen a tr

this is eric nelson, the defense attorney, making his closing argument. >> the state has really focused on the 9 minutes and 29 seconds, 9 minutes and 29 seconds, 9 minutes and 29 seconds. it's not the proper analysis, because the 9 minutes and 29 seconds ignores the previous 16 minutes and 59 seconds. >> he's referring to the resistance that george floyd had in getting in the back seat of that police vehicle. >> look, wolf, if you and i get drunk and get into a bar fight, i can't then go into court and say, well, you know, i was sober all day before i went into that bar and, you know, the person that i knocked out, i shouldn't be held responsible for that because i behaved most perfectly and comported with good behavior earlier in the day. that's a little bit of a misleading argument. now, because this is about the reasonableness of police conduct, maybe there's space to say that 16 minutes gave officers cause to restrain mr. floyd, at least initially. but what the prosecution has done throughout this trial is note that the 9-plus minutes tested the bounds of reasonableness. so after t

eric nelson had asked dr. fowler how he knew the car was running. earlier the issue was raised whether part of his medical problem contributing to death could have been carbon monoxide poisoning from the car running where he was asleep for awhile and then of course, was in the car for awhile. and they're about to come back from the side bar. it will be dr. david fowler on the stand, eric nelson the defense questioning him. excuse me, they're still at the side bar discussing i guess what he can say. there was a prosecution objection to that line of questioning about the car running, how he knew the car was running and what he did get out and this could always be struck from the record is there was a collection of fluid and at that point, the prosecution interrupted. shaq, you're outside the courtroom. the courthouse. we're talking now about the car running. the car had been running for awhile because he had been in the car and according to the woman who was next to him, her testimony, he had fallen asleep, which of course, i guess, was part of their

and a lot of what eric nelson was question david plugger about was timing in his earlier testimony with the prosecution. he was talking about the fact that there is a guess and he implied it took a little longer than perhaps is normal to tell him about the kind of pressure that he was putting on george floyd the ways in which he was trying to restrain him and for how long and eric nelson there questioning the former shift supervisor as to what a normal length of time would be but this really sort of fits into the pattern of the testimonies that we have seen over the past few hours of really trying to piece every part of the puzzle of what happened in the minutes and hours after. george boyd was taken away from the scene and taken to hospital let's listen to eric nelson for the defense again are going to use the maximum restraint technique at this point i'm going to hold the suspect in place tell your master. there is an officer is planning to use the hobble has a part on the suspect as a medical emergency to use them right yes. when when the maximal restraint technique is applied. they

and you heard eric nelson yesterday during his lon- eric nelson yesterday during his long closing really caused the death— action by derek chauvin that caused the death of george floyd. when it would _ the death of george floyd. when it would be _ the death of george floyd. when it would be preposterous to say that given _ would be preposterous to say that given everything that we know about george _ given everything that we know about george floyd leading up to the event — george floyd leading up to the event. he had an enlarged heart, he had methamphetamine in his system, sentinel. _ had methamphetamine in his system, sentinel, things of that nature. that's— sentinel, things of that nature. that's really not what the product prosecute — that's really not what the product prosecute his case was again, they didn't— prosecute his case was again, they didn't have — prosecute his case was again, they didn't have to prove that level of causation — didn't have to prove that level of causation. they only had to prove that it _ causation. they only had to prove that it was — causation. they onl

not necessarily what he heard or couldn't make out the words, but you are getting the sense that eric nelson is able to make some points as he questions this witness. andrea? >> and david henderson, the defense attorney also trying to focus on the individuals in front of cup foods during the incident. he's calling them the bystanders, but an unruly group which is not at all what we saw on the videotape and the cut away pictures of the group. only a handful of people there. >> this testimony is hard to watch because if a dog whistle is being blown during the trial, it is being blown now. it's offensive to listen to some of these questions, but what is more heartbreaking is these questions tend to work. if there is a racist person on the jury they will find the example persuasive. that eric he could have used more. ridiculous arguments, but they can work in court. hopefully the prosecution when they get a chance to question the witness again, can put these in proper context. >> this is definitely about race and perceptions. both sides have to be very aware of that, the prosecution and the defe

what eric nelson needed to do was to try to raise that reasonable doubt.oday he did a masterful job of trying to go through the tnesses the prosecution brought and undermined their case and say this is the training derek chauvin received and any of the officers who have done the same thing. it is a multifactorial cause of death. if any of the jury disagrees on that charge, he will not be found guilty. however, there care three counts so he could be convicted of any, all or none of them. katty: give us so sense of what minneapolis is gearing up for as they wait for this verdict. larry: minneapolis has been on edge since the beginning. the killing of daunte wright about a week ago has added onto that. the city is nervous. people are anxious. there are many people angry and afraid given how this trial has gone with george floyd's drug use and underlying problems, they may not find justice. there's a big operation called operation safety net which includes the national guard, state troopers and local police around here who are bracing, anticipating any protest

search the minutes of while we were hearing the closing statement from that the feds hearing from eric nelson of course these are the closing statements or heard from the prosecution earlier about the trial of derek and the main points that eric mileson was bringing up. really we were just listening to now the issue of drugs so how big a part of the drugs play in the death of george floyd let's go to al-jazeera is john hendren he's live outside the court in minneapolis certainly quite a lengthy closing statement there by eric nelson from the defense what did you make of the points that he was raising. well he made the points that we have expected him to make he said that the cause of death was not derrick shoaf in cutting off the windpipe he went through all of the other possibilities what he's trying to do it's a create reasonable doubt there is no evidence in this trial that suggests that george floyd had an overdose but that is what the defense has suggested there they have also suggested that is coronary artery disease could have contributed to his direct death although none of the medica

that is why eric nelson is trying to push back and discredit his testimony.hat is the testimony we are hearing at the moment, do we know who else is coming later in the day? larry: we know that there are five more medical experts to come, including a forensic pathologist. this is directly contravening what the defense will call. what witnesses they tend to bring is dr. andrew baker. he is the medical examiner and he carried out an autopsy on george floyd's body. he is the corner of this case and he computed george floyd died of a carteret -- of a cardiac arrest. what he did not say was george floyd had an oxygen deficiency and that is why the prosecution has had their own witnesses come in. when he does come in, it is time to discredit his testimony in their case. ros: thank you very much indeed. larry live with us from minneapolis. we will listen to that live feed. stay where it stay here withe on "outside source." we are going to talk about this photo opportunity. it happened in turkey on tuesday. the ramifications very much continue 48 hours later. ♪ ros:

eric nelson did as good a job with what had been given to him.e state was difficult to overcome. really, all he had to work with to instill that reasonable doubt was — is there anything, anything i can pull at that was this cause of death, other than derek chauvin kneeling on george floyd's neck and suffocating the life out of him? and those two things were medical and drugs. so, he played that up as much as he possibly could. the defence called dr david fowler. he told the court it was his opinion that derek chauvin�*s knee did not impact the vital structures of george floyd's neck, and the cause of death should be undetermined. so, in my opinion, mr floyd had a sudden cardiac arrhythmia, i or cardiac arrhythmia, . due to his atherosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease or... you can write that down i multiple different ways... ..during his restraint and subdural by the police, or restraint by the police. i and then, his significant- contributory conditions would be — since i've already put the heart disease in part one, _ he would have the to

then the cross-examination from eric nelson for the defense who set about trying to say that essentially because lieutenant zimmerman hasn't been in the field as much recently that he does experience are going to release you for the return hopefully the mother we have a motion before the we have to deal with may be 930 but let's shoot for 950 thank you have a good week of. ok adjourned for the day says the judge and we did suspect that this might happen being the weekend friday and perhaps being easter as well i don't know but they did talk about the possibility of this ending earlier actually not this early but as i was saying lieutenant richard zimmerman was the man who we heard and saw on the stand there and under cross-examination from eric nelson for the defense as i say essentially saying that all your experience now is only based on academy training you. policemen in uniform not out on the base anymore and essentially trying to downplay the experience was of course the prosecution is playing up the fact that lieutenant zimmerman has 30 years experience in the force and does a lot

there we see the defense attorney eric nelson back at his desk right there. the cross-examination we anticipate should begin. maybe it's going to begin right now. he obviously just stood up. let listen. >> just a few follow-up service. you see when we look at the exhibit you see in 2020 defensive tactics in-service and it's worth eight hours of time, agreed? >> correct. >> and now in that course of that eight hours, officers may go through multiple trainings during that eight-hour train, right? >> correct. they rotate through things. >> i'm sorry. >> they can rotate through different. >> right, so one within that eight-hour time frame they may get a class or hour long class on the humidman factor, of force or they may get an hour-long course on handcuffing techniques t.varies within each of those eight hour time frames, right? >> correct. >> have you maintained a list that shows it 2020, these are the classes that occurred during those eight hours? >> we have. >> okay. and have you provided that list to -- in response to the search warrant that was executed a

what we heard judge cahill say yesterday in the courtroom after eric nelson mentioned a congresswoman -- he didn't even name her at the time, he said a congresswoman came and in his words threatened violence. people defending maxine waters say she was just calling for people to become more engaged and continue protesting. listen to what the judge said in reaction to eric nelson's request for a mistrial. >> i will give you maxine waters' comment may have given you something on appeal to overturn this. but this goes back to what i have said from the beginning. i wish the elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and judicial branch and our function. >> just to be clear what she said, she was in brooklyn center on a bull horn saying, i couldn't sleep. i have been staying up all night because mr. wright didn't deserve to die. and then when asked about a not guilty verdict, she said we've got to stay on the street, more active and we've got to get more confrontational and we've got to make sure they know we mean bu

i mean, to kimberley's point eric nelson has been trying to weave this tale of george floyd as this super human drugged out maniac who caused his own death. so now the defense gets to have its turn to present its witnesses now mr. nelson is having the opportunity to put them on the stand who will buttress and who will back up his theory of the case. but he's got -- i mean he's moving rather quickly through witnesses. so i don't know how much longer he's going to be arguing this case. he has a terrible hand, and, you know, we've all seen the evidence. he even started out by telling the jury, you know, use your common sense. and if you use your common sense anybody watching what we have watched would use their common sense and say derek chauvin with his knee on george floyd's neck killed him. and yet to sort of echo what my colleague eugene robinson is saying in his column today in "the washington post" despite that case the prosecution made and presented and now the defense is giving its side, there is a part of me that is afraid that common sense will not be a visitor in the jury box. and

amy: derek chauvin's defense lawyer eric nelson faulted prosecutors for focusing on the nine minutes9 seconds when his client had his knee onnk george floyd's neck. >> we get into the nine minutes and 29 seconds. the stateno has really focused n the nine minutes and 29 seconds. nine minutes, 29 seconds. nine minutes, 29 seconds. not the proper analysis. because the nine minutes and 29 seconds ignores the previous 16 minutes and 59 seconds. it completely disregards it. it says in that moment, at that point, nothing else that happened before should be taken into consideration by reasonable police officer. it tries to reframe the issue of what a reasonable police officer would do. a reasonable police officer would in fact take into consideration the previous 16 minutes and 59 seconds. their experience with the subject. the struggles that they had. the comparison of the words to actions. it all comes into play. why? because human behavior is unpredictable. human behavior is unpredictable and nobody knows better than a police officer. amy: the closing arguments ended with a rebuttal from

and shit just stay with us let's listen back to defense lawyer eric nelson who said that there was a lack of evidence to prove chauvin is guilty beyond reasonable doubt he also asked the jury to consider a different show been acted reasonably as a police officer. the standard is not what should the officer have done in these circumstances it's not what could the officer have done differently in the sight circumstance the standard is what were the facts that were known to this officer at the precise moment he used force and. considering all of the totality of circumstances and facts known to the officer would a reasonable police officer. what would a reasonable police officer have done. eric nelson for the defense there well every bussing to the fence his closing argument prosecutor gerrie blackwell told the jury that common sense was the trial's 46th witness commonsense will continue talking with you all the while because while you've heard hours and hours and hours of discussions here in the closing ultimately it really isn't that complicated and what it is you have to decide with r

in cross-examination, eric nelson has been pretty good at picking apart witnesses, but he has not had -- he had nothing to say to the doctor. what we are in right now is the end of the prosecution portion of the case, we've got some more expert this is to go, but it was a banner day for them and all of their experts, basically centered around this idea that floyd was killed directly by the pressure on his windpipe by derek chauvin. >> you mentioned it was day nine of testimony. how long are we expecting the trial to last and wendy think we should have a verdict? >> if we keep to the judges original schedule, this will be a four-week trial. he has essentially allotted two weeks for the prosecution and two weeks for the defense. the judges is expecting the defense to start on tuesday. generally the defense takes less time than the prosecution. we are coming close to the end and this judge has been keeping things on schedule, moving things along. we may have the defense arguing their case next week, and what may be especially interesting as we may possibly hear from the defendant himself

. >> during cross-examination attorney eric nelson raised the idea that the crowd on the sidewalk made it harder for derek chauvin to render medical aid or move his knee. >> this appears to be the bystander watching derek chauvin apply force to floyd? >> yes. >> did you see anybody throw rocks or bottles? >> no. >> did you see anybody physically attack the officers? >> no, i did not. >> did you hear foul language or name calling? >> there was name college, yes, and foul language, but that was about the most of it. >> did that factor into your analysis? >> no. >> why not? >> because i did not perceive them as being a threat. >> then came the medical experts, the prosecution used them to help prove george floyd died of asphyxia contrary to the official medical examiner's report. >> the primary mechanism was asphyxia or low oxygen, and it basically is -- mr. floyd is in a position because of the sub dual restraint and compression where he was unable to get enough oxygen in to maintain his body functions. >> he then goes unconscious. he will then see in the next section he has what is call

out of hennepin county and they argue that media attention came to the jury pool in addition to eric nelsonto mind the 2015 trial after the boston marathon bombing where the judge there said, we are dealing with the biggest jury pool in the country and if we can't find it unbiased juror, we can't anywhere. it goes to what you said. >> i'm sure the attorneys for the other officers for aiding and abetting are looking at the arguments that eric nelson made. the decision to announce the city settlement amid this trial and the jury selection pool, ended up at the removal of two jurors because they have seen that settlement. the tragic, tragic killing of daunte wright and the fact that some current members who were sitting there lived in the area and if they want sequestered -- we passed as a precedent and it will be used, but also to articulate whatever brilliant colleague andy mccarthy said in a piece this morning, look, joe biden's comments, he should have known better. he was the head of the committee, he's an attorney and he should know that just because a jury is sequestered doesn't mean th

here's what the defense lawyer eric nelson has said on the record during pretrial proceedings.e said they spotted chewed up pills and a full pill in that police car and that, quote, according to eric nelson on the record, they are, in fact, methamphetamine and fentanyl and they contain the dna of george floyd. that's the sequence with the pills. >> and then -- thank you very much for the clarification. cedric to you, we finished before going to break that you are -- it's about to get very interesting, specifically on the science and medical analysis of all of this. what are you listening for coming up? >> well, certainly i want to hear the medical examiner in terms of how he or she may have determined the cause of death and putting it into context. of course, you're going to have another medical examiner, if i'm not mistaken, who will be subpoenaed who may look at it very, very differently. so, you're going to have opposing diagnoses here around the cause of death of this patient. but they're going to look at a lot of things physiologically, buy logically, time of death, how mu

. >> the defensive attorney eric nelson continuing to interview jody stiger on the eighth day of the trial of derek chauvin in the death of george floyd on mae judge say they will take a 20 minute break or so so that will be shortly after the noon eastern and we expect them to return. until the due we will show you some of the testimony from day seven, yesterday in minneapolis. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. >> thank you your honor, the state calls nicole kinsey. [inaudible]. >> to swear or affirm the truth and nothing but the truth. [inaudible]. >> if you feel comfortable, we prefer you take your mask off. and before we begin, can you hand me that. [inaudible]. >> if you could begin by giving us your full name and the spelling. nicole m ac k en zip. >> i'm employed by the minneapolis police department pretty about six years. >> what is your current roll there pretty. >> i am a police officer pretty. >> given specific duty pretty. >> i do predict on the medical coordinator for the front desk. >> now before we talk about that, i would like you to share a little about yourself

eric nelson: this object right there?o said his speech heard in video evidence, suggests he was breathing normally. prosecution expert witnesses have said it is wrong to make instead, they have testified that assumption. instead, they have testified that just because floyd was talking does not mean he was breathing adequately. eric nelson: how would you classify manner of death? dr. david fowler: so this is one of those cases where you have so many conflicting different manners. the carbon monoxide would usually be classified as an accident, though someone was holding him there. so some people would say you could elevate that to a homicide. you've got the drugs on board. he has significant natural disease he is in a situation where he has been restrained in a very stressful situation. you put all of those together. it is difficult to say which of those is the most accurate. i would fall back to undetermined. yamiche: the prosecution cross-examined fowler, attempting to pick apart his testimony on what exactly caused floyd

there's a reason why eric nelson was bringing up that scenario. there's a reason why you heard the aggressive redirection from the prosecution. it's because we don't know what andrew baker will say. based on the autopsy report where he didn't mention asphyxiation, based on the interviews with the investigators, there's a sign that it may not be exactly what prosecution wants the jury to hear. >> shaq, stick around. control room, as i bring in the rest of our experts here -- doctor, i want you to react to what are shots one and two. it was the testimony that said how to view autopsy and the best way to use an autopsy. take a listen. >> the way the autopsy really helps is it is great for ruling things out. in this case, the autopsy ruled out, for example, underlying lung disease. it ruled out injuries to the neck that suggest that his -- the bone in his neck had been broken, for example. it ruled out a stroke. he didn't have a stroke. it wasn't like his blood pressure was so high that he ruptured a vessel in his brain. he didn't have an aneurysm. he

langenfeld and the defense attorney crossing is eric nelson. depends where you're practicing. >> in the state of minnesota? >> yes. >> a paramedic can't declare a person dead. >> no. not without consultation with a physician. so just based on your treatment, again, of mr. floyd. mr. floyd, based on the tests that you did had an elevated co2 level, correct? >> yes. >> that co2 level was considered to be exceptionally high, correct? >> correct. >> and you did not, in the course of your consideration provide naloxone or narcan? >> no. >> and it would be -- is it fair to say that the administration of narcan, if you do not have opiates in your system is a safe procedure? >> yes. >> and if you do have opiates in your system the administration of narcan could be life changing? life saving. >> yes. not in this case. >> prior to the -- again, the paramedic, also based on your information did not administer narcan. >> correct. >> can i make a clarification? >> there' [ inaudible ] >> and you would agree that mr. floyd arrived at hcmc at approximately 8:

and so, when eric nelson, the defense attorney, talked about mr. chauvin threatening the crowd with mace, i don't think that helped his case. the prosecution pointed out that the crowd treated mr. floyd more responsibly than chauvin did. >> chuck rosenberg, the prosecution seemed to go out of their way to make clear that this was not a case against the police as a group or even more than one officer. simply against the conduct of derek chauvin. let me play some of that. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> it may be hard for any of you to imagine a police officer doing something like this. imagining a police officer committing a crime might be the most difficult thing you have to set aside, because that's just not the way we think of police officers. we trust the police. we trust the police to help us. we believe the police are going to respond to our call for help. we believe they're going to listen to us. this case is called the state of minnesota versus derek chauvin. this case is not called the state of minnesota vs. the police. he betraye

the use of force by police right now we are on cross-examination and from the defense attorney eric nelson who's speaking to jodi steger the l.a.p.d. police sergeant who's giving his expert opinion on the use of force is where. we have to take into account security yes we have to take into account the safety and security of our police are all. nurse yes we have to take into account the public's safety yes we have to take into account the location generally speaking is this a high crime moderate term or a low crime or right yet a 3rd into account. we have to take into account the specific location meaning and i in a middle of a busy intersection where buses and cars are driving by or my in someone's yard backyard yes. we have to take into account deescalation possibility yes so you've seen and you discussed a little bit yesterday the minneapolis police department i'm sorry we can take this to. the minneapolis police department's critical decision making not. you believe we discussed this but you reviewed that yes and you understand what an officer is supposed to do is kind of go through thi

you probably just saw there that eric nelson, the defense attorney for derek chauvin just wrapped up arguments. the judge just said he had some discussions -- we're going to listen to what the judge is saying to the lawyers. >> you believe that the counsel made a misstatement of law when he indicated and argumented that the defendant had to intend to apply unlawful force. he had to intend that the force he was applying to be unlawful. that's not a correct statement. the law is dorn 887 northwest second 8, 26. the state need not show that the defendant meant to or knew that it would violate the law that is what mr. nelson argued before the jury. so we're requesting the court give a curative instruction to the jury as follows. that it is not necessarily for the state to prove the defendant intended to act unlawfully. only that the defendant applied force to another that the application of force was unlawful and that this application of force resulted in bodily harm. i believe that's a correct statement of the law. >> this is contrary to what the court instructed in the first set of ins

tener mas de nueve minutos una rodilla sobre el cuello de floyd.en tanto, el abogado de chauvin, eric nelsondrogas previo al incidente del 25 de mayo de 2020, que le habrian provocado el colapso respiratorio. chauvin se nego a presentar su version de lo ocurrido abogando a la quinta enmienda de la constitucion... en tanto, el abogado de aylÉn: de hecho, luis megid estÁ a las afueras de minnesota donde se espera la decisiÓn que ha estado bajo presiÓn de grupos que llevan varios dÍas frente al lugar manifestando su rechazo a la muerte de george floyd. cuÉntanos cÓmo estÁ el ambiente a esta hora. luis: buenas tardes. hay mucha atenciÓn en mineÁpolis. estamos frente a la corte en la ciudad de mineÁpolis. se parece a un fuerte como tenemos 12 pies de altos alrededor del edificio, cables, tenemos alambres de pÚa y tambiÉn cientos de miembros de la guardia nacional esperando para calmar cualquier disturbio, en caso de que lo hubiera. la situaciÓn es bastante tensa frente a la corte. tenemos tambiÉn decenas de negocios cerrados y paredes totalmente cubiertas en prevenciÓn de cualquier disturbio. el

first eric nelson focusing on narcotics. let's to a lip. >> you reviewed the toxicology of mr. floyd, right? >> yes. >> you would agree that fentanyl is a respiratory depressant? >> that's my understanding, yes. >> and it slows breathing resulting in lower oxygen levels? >> it can, yes. >> have you certified deaths as an overdose where the level of fentanyl was similar to the level of fentanyl in mr. floyd? >> yes. >> again, going for one jury member here, creating doubt, right? is this, do you think, when you are thinking of their strategy, how far they might go with this very point on narcotics? >> that's another great point. i think they are going to go as far as they can go. but the issue is, you have had some very compelling testimony from a lot of people who have talked about the concept of causation. what does causation mean? it basically means that but for the actions of this particular law enforcement officer, would this man have died anyway? would george floyd have succumbed anyway to the effects of the fentanyl? and i think when you start looking a the video, combine

. >> chauvin's defense attorney there, eric nelson, bringing up a police training concept here, awful but lawful. now, special agent james who investigated floyd's killing took the stand. defense attorney eric nelson then questioning him about this issue that we have been covering about floyd's possible drug use. >> did you hear that? >> yes, i did. >> did it appear that mr. floyd said i ate too many drugs? >> yes, it did. >> then, this was interesting, because this is how things get litigated, the prosecution brought him back up to clarify his testimony and he basically revised saying that after re-watching the video, what he actually heard because, again, you have experts dealing with evidence, this is how it works, he said to the jury he actually heard floyd say, quote, i ain't do no drugs. let me repeat before we go into this because this is a big deal, whether you think drugs were being taken. everyone is looking at the same videos. the idea that floyd said i ain't do no drugs. take a look at the distinction. >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd is s

. >> you have been listening to the defense attorney eric nelson go through several of the pre-trialns ahead of the defense resting the case once the jury comes into the room. let's recap here and make sure we're on the same page in the last ten minutes. the most significant piece of it, derek chauvin saying he is going to choose not to testify. he will invoke his fifth amendment right. you heard the prosecution wants to bring somebody back up to the stand to discuss something brought up yesterday when one of the defense witnesses testified about the potential, the carbon monoxide may have played a role in george floyd's death, really the first time in this entire trial, this subject or that notion has been brought up. is that is what this book and forth centers in on now. i want to bring in our analysts and experts here. shaq broou brewster. what is the defense trying to do? it seems they are making their case, a rths to the judge? >> that's exactly right. if you want someone to drop the mic in this case, you want it to be dr. tobin or the exceptional experts that the state has call

. >> reporter: attorney eric nelson cross-examined sergeant jody stiger of the lapd, a use of force expert, who said chauvin's actions were excessive. nelson drilling down, arguing that a crowd of bystanders distracted chauvin stiger shot back that chauvin's 866 hours of training should have prepared him >> even i was surprised that he has the audacity to say oh, it's the crowd's fault. these angry people which i think is a suggestive way of trying to say these angry black people it's just asinine. >> reporter: in that crowd a 9-year-old who testified earlier in the trial. the prosecution says the bystanders weren't dangerous. they were concerned. >> did you see anybody throw any rocks or bottles? >> no, i did not >> did you see anyone attack, physically attack the officers? >> no, i did not >> reporter: but the defense is also raising more questions about floyd's drug use, playing a short clip from a body camera to special agent james reyerson with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, who investigated the police floyd's pained voice is heard while he's being restrained >> does i

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, asking him the questions, and in my opinion, he closed to doors to some of the arguments that eric nelson could have made in the future. an outstanding witness and absolutely the cornerstone, i believe, from the prosecution's case in terms of connecting the egregious behavior to causation from a medical and scientific analysis. >> doctor, i'll ask you to weigh in here. what do you make of the number of experts who were presented before we actually saw the medical examiner's actual autopsy report? did that stand out to you? >> it did not stand out to me, especially because when you look at the autopsy report, you realize that there's a lot of medical information in there, and it's complex medical information. mr. floyd had preexisting conditions of heart disease. he had an incidental tumor. he also had drugs in his system, specifically fentanyl and methamphetamine so you're going to need those experts in order to weigh in and explain to the jury in simple terms how those can play in or be totally irrelevant to the cause of death. >> and paul, how do you think the prosecution handled that p