the second line -- i think eric pollitt ca is the representative consensus or grab you to go to san francisco they have a lot of people who are in the white house, commerce, and kind of trading bodies. so clearly there is a political element or at least government to to government element because we've seen how many chinese companies have not played that card well. famously commits a major manufacturer, my home broadband in the u.k. is cheap and i love it, but the u.s., sprint was not allowed to buy from them and make tab was not to be chinese or something. so there is an awareness, but there's also practical reasons to reach out and i think penny pritzker has visited. in fact, my former colleague, ted dean, through whom i met jack mas now working at the commerce department. you have to engage with the government aspect. there's this endless question of how this alibaba deal with the chinese government and internet. i tend to think of it not just in the country, but the global level. apple, fbi. tech companies have huge power, huge influence. of course they have to convince all. the competito