eric ripert has told him the indiana jones of the world. unknown," takes him all over the world. i am pleased to have anthony bourdain at the table. you seem awfully mellow today. is there a particular reason for that? >> i am coming right from jujitsu. it is a humbling experience getting squashed by younger, more fit experienced people. >> why jujitsu? things like something you would know for a long time. >> i started at 58. it is the last thing in the world i could have ever imagined running to do or enjoying. i have never hung out in a gym. -- describede this to learn a new skill at my age is satisfying. on thehe person lowest totem pole in the kitchen, knowing nothing, the incremental, tiny satisfactions of being a little less awful at something every day, that is jujitsu for me. i am learning an entirely new skill. a difficult one. a physically demanding one. one that i think about what the rest of the day. they call it is a gold chest -- physical chess. >> what else in your life has had a trajectory? >> i am a guy who likes making things. when i was a chef, i like multitask