of the worst offenders didn't get the death penalty, talk about the unibomber, jared lovener, eric rudolph, who sent a bomb off, so many people don't get the death penalty, if it was really necessary, as the tone general talks about, we'd have thousands of executions. there's terrible crimes but we don't use it that way, we use it in this random government says you but not you. that's the kind of power that i think our founders would have been very suspicious of. >> how about that. you heard a fellow elected official talk about having a death penalty that's targeted only to the most heinous of crimes, not used willey nilly, and an advocate saying well, we don't really apply it that way. what's going on in ohio and are the people of your state ready to hear a different proposal? what is going oin my state, and actually in my county, and it is one of the top 5 counties to have people on death row, to use the death penalty, disproportionately. often it's used as a way to plea for -- we get some plea barr gains out of it, but the death penalty is where it starts instead of where it finishes. i