we don't fully understand the solutions yet. >> eric schmidt, you just terrified me. i hear the good things. but boy, that is really scary scenario. thank you so much for coming on and being candid candid about the good, bad and ugly of ai. all right, coming up next -- why former president obama says heaps him up at night about america, and what he worries about the most -- plus, the battlefield in ukraine is rapidly changing. there is new reporting tonight about how the russians are trying to overwhelm and confuse ukraine. ♪ ♪ ♪ martial arts is my passion. i work out whenever i can. but with my moderate- to-severe eczema, it can be tough. now, i'm staying ahead of it. dupixent helps heal your skin from within. so you can have clearer skin, and noticeably less itch. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes including blurred vision, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. don't change or stop asthma medicines without talking to your doctor. ask your doctor ab

and that you just showed a clip from eric schmidt. think this is relative from a national security perspective. from an economic stability perspective. it would be a real shame if some of the more ambitious applications in science education were not reached because we did not get regulation right. i am excited about -- there are some companies that are already contributing to that. we have a company called co. rice that uses ai to reduce the cost of reskilling for workers. caroline: where do you fall on that viewpoint if this could be beneficial to society, or is there a worry that jobs will be reduced and people will not be rescaled at the rate they need to be? sarah: it would be intellectually dishonest for a technologist in this field to not have that worry. i founded the firm because i believe that ai is a technology of abundance but a distribution will not happen automatically. there is real room for nuance policymaking so the technology is only as good as the guardrails we give it. the magic of the american innovation system is

we don't fully understand the solutions yet. >> eric schmidt, you just terrified me. i hear the good things, but boy, that is a really scary scenario. thank you so much for coming on and being candid about the good, bad and ugly of a.i. >>> coming up next, what former president obama says keeps him up at night about america. and what he worries about the most. >>> plus, the battlefield in ukraine is rapidly changing. new reporting tonight about how the russians are trying to overwhelm and confuse ukraine. ♪ asking the right question can greatly impact your future. - are, are you qualified to do this? - what? - especially when it comes to your finances.. - are you a certified financial l planner™? - i'm a cfp® professional. - cfp® professionals are committedd to actcting in your best intere. that's why it's gotta be a cfp®. what are folks 60 and older up to these days? getting inspired! volunteering! playing pickleba...! every day, more dog people are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned fo

we'll speak to former google ceo eric schmidt. optimism but no resolution as us leaders try to sort out the country's debt crisis. political corruption in the spotlight in kyiv as ukraine's topjudge is dismissed over bribery allegations. the co—founder and ceo of openai, the company behind the chatgpt, testified before us congress to say that artificial iintelligence should be regulated. us lawmakers questioned tech entrepreneur sam altmann about the benefits the technology can bring and the threat it could pose for humanity. my worst fears are that we cause significant — we, the field, the technology, the industry — cause significant harm to the world. i think that could happen in a lot of different ways. it's why we started the company. it's a big part of why i'm here today, and why we've been here in the past, and we've been able to spend some time with you. i think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong. and we want to be vocal about that. we want to work with the government to prevent that from happening. but we

we'll speak to former google ceo eric schmidt. crisis. political corruption in the spotlight in kyiv as ukraine's topjudge is dismissed over bribery allegations. the co—founder and ceo of openai, the company behind the chatgpt, testified before us congress to say that artificial iintelligence should be regulated. us lawmakers

last night i spoke with eric schmidt, former ceo for google who is now investing in an ai company aboutabout the fact that it can be used in war, is it more dangerous than, for example, nuclear war, the way we think of conventional war, the worst-case scenario? >> nuclear war is horrific and any nuclear war would destri the world as we know it. you can take this technology and active cyber attacks a whole country, do it until everybody's dead and you can imagine that scenario. you can also imagine the scenario where i want to kill a million people, show me a biological path to do it. these are the dangers that we have to make sure are not happening. >> active cyber attacks that can keep going until everyone in the world is dead. >> really uplifting stuff for the morning, sara, thanks for that. >> i'm sorry. it totally freaks me out. what are lawmakers trying to do here? >> i think yesterday's hearing is quite interesting in that we've seen tech executives come to capitol hill for years now, but there was a consensus vote among the experts on the panel among republicans and democrats tha

republican senator, eric schmidt is calling this a humanitarian crisis, saying president joe biden has no plans . so there's a lot more to talk about . we are going to hear from a south bay community organization about how they are supporting these new immigrant families and what they are calling for from governor newsom. we will drill down on that. >>> let's get you caught up on the other headlines. teachers line e strike continues icket into day six. they have not given up and they will not , less than 10 days left in the school year, the clock is ticking. and the time could run out to strike a deal for the district said the teachers union demands too much of what is known as the common good proposals that are beyond just salary demands. meanwhile, the mayor of oakland released a statement urging them to work together to get this thing settled. >>> and the man accused in the killing of a young mother in san carlos last year, was in court today. he is charged with murdering 27-year-old, karina castro . the suspect is the father of castro's youngest child. he had a restraining order ag

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you about today in their shoes and doctor ceo eric schmidt your career trajectory and technology policyadership obviously big global tech companies decided not to sell into china had decided not to have a presence in the cdp and is so noted. and china has a stunning lead and 37 out of 44 critical emerging technologies and according to a recently released australian strategic policy institute report also noted to at have heard dr. schmidt say that we need a plan and to determine if the key technology areas that we wanted compete in and if we are looking at the broader industrial policy in the excessive chips in science and legislation come i think that we can call it a success, $52 billion for the chip manufacturing in the united states and to get $200 billion of private sector contributions and dr. schmidt can you help us think about when you said in your testimony, $2 billion never spending right now, in ai and recommending recommending to a $32 billion and what is that look like you envision there. >> there is plenty money in the companies. there is not enough money in universities an

you about today in their shoes and doctor ceo eric schmidt your career trajectory and technology policyadership obviously big global tech companies decided not to sell into china had decided not to have a presence in the cdp and is so noted. and china has a stunning lead and 37 out of 44 critical emerging technologies and according to a recently released australian strategic policy institute report also noted to what we have heard dr. schmidt say that we need a plan and to determine if the key technology areas that we wanted compete in and if we are looking at the broader industrial policy in the excessive chips in science and legislation come i think that we can call it a success, $52 billion for the chip manufacturing in the united states and to get $200 billion of private sector contributions and dr. schmidt can you help us think about when you said in your testimony, $2 billion never spending right now, in ai and recommending recommending to a $32 billion and what is that look like you envision there. >> there is plenty money in the companies. there is not enough money in universiti

. >>> new this morning, former google ceo eric schmidt says there needs to be stricter rules for artificialout at the danger of fake ai content. >> the whole system has to get ready for an onslaught of immoral, illegal or manipulative content. it has to be regulated, and if not, the government will have to regulate it. >> sam malt marn i should have said orn't know be the creator of chat gtp. >> yes. >> and donie o'sullivan is here, and so, congress is asking what wrath you wrought and what hath you doth do? >> yes, everything from the misinformation to the music industry to jobs filling, and right now, at s, altman is in conversation saying that we have to do something about this technology, and we don't know how powerful this technology is, and speaking of which, senator blumenthal opened up the committee with a first. he ceded some of the introductory remarks to ai. >> we can see what happens when technology outpaces legislation. we have seen the deepening of the societal inequalities. >> if you were listening from home, you might have thought that voice was mine and the words from me, b

two things we could do would be to follow a recommendation that was made by eric schmidt to set up aimportant or more important than that, we need to create a new federal agency in washington like the fda, like the fcc, to regulate the biggest tech companies in america which have gone completely unregulated to this point and ai is going to be a big part of the discussion. last question on this. we spoke to the godfather of ai, jeffrey hinton, who spoke about the dangers, especially of authoritarian leaders using ai in the runway china developing this style technology even if it's regulated here. what think of that? i think we are in an competition with authoritarianism and there is, you know, we said, american politicians and the democratic party for many years said the internet is going to democratise china. the internet is going to create a liberal society in china and of course, the opposite has happened. they've used the internet to secure their totalitarian state in ways george orwell could never have imagined and the stuff they've already used which you couldn't have imagined,

listen to the warning from eric schmidt about how they could use it in the future. >> imagine the chineseues to build automatic weapons systems that are launch on warning, just do their thing. we don't understand their command and control, their rules in this area and wouldn't abide by them anyway. >> reporter: smit is sounding the alarm in front of her congressional hearing, schmidt also says china is investing 3 times more into ai is a portion of the defense budget compared to the united states. on capitol hill senate majority leader chuck schumer's leading the push for ai regulation. he says any rules congress creates has to be bipartisan and have to happen soon. >> if we fulfill overall properly our approach to ai must be fast-moving. we can't move so fast that we do flawed legislation. no time for waste or delay or sitting back, we got to move fast. >> reporter: we also know the g7 leaders have brought up artificial intelligence, they believe we need guardrails around it but it is not exactly clear how they might propose policing artificial intelligence. one thing is for sure, the co

i think you read hoffman or eric schmidt no mother.st people i talked to in and around entertainment feeling a i will have a lot of impact at the beginning and and. coming up with an idea for movie or tv show, you have a couple, words toss it into tragic dna can spin up a -- if you're, feeling you want to film a teaser, patchy a. you can use and make that through the pain people to make it. i don't think you're going to see studios have a i write full screen place. there is a belief that there is a need for human in that. ais more like a tool to complete the finished product in a proper placement. >> there's obviously no way i stop gap right now. like, oh i will do the job while they are picketing. >> i've been asked by a couple of people, i think that is highly unlikely. >> given your insights? >> at least a few months. what people are talk to think that the studios have already basically pivoted off of the rioters because you have two other guilds, the directors guild and actors guild where they have contracts coming up. i think the

listen to eric schmidt warning about this for a while. this is what he thinks about government interference. >> it is too new, too hard. not the expertise. no one in the government who can get it right. the industry can roughly get it right and the government can put a regulatory structure around it. >> dana: i'm not sure if government can get it right. i think i agree with him there. is the tech industry willing to do it on their own? >> i'm hopeful. in the banking industry we have self-regulating organizations, a group of insiders come together and propose best practices. you still have oversight by regulators but that's where it takes all the burden off the regulators themselves. i would love to see a sam altmann and elon musk propose best practices and what regulations are good enough without stifling innovation and an oversight body oversee and enforce some of those rules. they are the smartest people in the room. let's have them come up with something. i do like they are talking about guardrails while the risk is low. you don't want

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dershowitz and judith sheindlin, otherwise known as judge judy from corporate leaders, such as google's eric schmidt and caterpillar's doug over hillman, poets such as collins and kevin stein. sailors from the uss abraham lincoln. and musical and visual artists such as pete seeger. and annie. pete seeger sent us the gettysburg address, written out in his own hands. in a different format. and he said, you know, i'm 94, so i'm not going to be composing anything right now. but i'm going to write it out for you. the gettysburg out for you. the way i've helped people over the years learn to recite it. and so that's what he sent us. and annie leibowitz. sent us. she said, well, you know, i'm not a writer. i do photograph. so she sent us some photo essays that we included in the book particularly the one of daniel chester french, who was the sculptor for the lincoln memorial. and she was at his studio. and so she a picture of of the model and that's what we have the book but many of our other essays spoke of their own personal experience pieces and their family heritages and julian bond, the late julian bo

we talked to a lot of different people, bill gates, eric schmidt, but we also want to learn how people get up the mountain, as we called it, up the proverbial summit. that means checking in with people we haven't heard of in industries that might not be front and center. video games for me, could be engineering for someone else. really interesting to hear him discuss how he built up value and took an industry that appeals to many, 3 billion people, obviously includes a lot of different people, and yet at that leadership level, as he said, was still largely closed off. again, thanks to reginald cash. you can find that at msnbc.com/ari. you can also always find me at @arimelber on social media. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. >>> tonight on "the reidout" -- >> my heart is with this 8-year-old little boy. i don't care if he was here legally. i don't care if he was here illegally. he was in my county. five people died in my county, and that is where my heart is. >> yet another gun rampage. this time in texas. governor greg abbott, who has done much to boost the nra culture of guns

the governor was there watching a former google head eric schmidt and also reid hoffman from linkedinalking about this issue, and we asked him about it as well. here's what he had to say. are you scared of artificial intelligence? because there's a lot of folks that are. what's your message to those? they say fear is nothing but false evidence that appears real. so it's in the absence of knowing yeah, i'm a little fearful. in the absence of evidence to suggest otherwise. here's my biggest concern, though, is that we can tend to overcompensate. through neglect and naivete and try to shut something down before we even understand it. so that's the dialectic. i mean, that's the balancing act that we have to go. how do we be nimble and flexible, but not overcorrect where we can stifle innovation, imagination and fundamentally lose our advantage. another big issue we talked about was senator dianne feinstein future of course, she's right now in the bay area, still recovering from shingles unclear when or if she will return to washington if she is unable to return. uh gavin newsom would then

and eric schmidt's calling on leaders in washington to figure out how to regulate ai content.ut he says it's key to do that in a way that protects free speech for humans, but not for robots. a former apple engineer is facing federal charges on stealing trade secrets. a justice department strikeforce unsealed an indictment today against 35 year old wei bao wong, accusing him of stealing information used in autonomous systems, including cell driving cars and attempting to sell it to chinese companies. authorities say wang fled to china shortly after the investigation began in 2018. he faces six felony counts and could receive ten years in prison if convicted. ferris they're a common sight in the bay, becoming a bigger part of our commute every day. and now that commute could become greener than ever. take a look at this. we're talking about going electric here. a european company has opened an office here in the bay area hoping to help lead the way. and as abc7 news anchor liz kreuz reports, they're building a zero emission ferry and you see how high this is. it essentially flie

we talked to a lot of different people, bill gates, eric schmidt, but we also want to learn how peoplefront and center. video games for me, could be engineering for someone else. really interesting to hear him discuss how he built up value and took an industry that appeals to many, 3 billion people, obviously includes a lot of different people, and yet at that leadership level, as he said, was still largely closed off. again, thanks to reginald cash. you can find that at msnbc.com/ari. you can also always find me at @arimelber on social media. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. >>> tonight on "the reidout"

you make of this, and it happened today at "the wall street journal" conference in london where eric schmidtexistential risks. we've heard that before. but he also said it could harm or even kill people. as someone who is helping fund the industry, do you know what he's talking about? do you agree with that? >> i think he was specifically talking about security in the sense that, you know, with a.i. it will be a lot easier to create fake content. we just saw a video this week about a fake explosion at the pentagon which for a quick moment kind of crashed the market. this is just the tip of the iceberg. i think that we're going to see a lot more of that, and i think that's what he's referring to. and if you consider that we are going to have a presidential election next year, if we don't get our arms around this and are able to identify fake content much faster, then, yes, there'll be -- whether this will kill people, i think it might be a little hyperbole. liz: i agree with you on that, deep fakes could cause deep problems. eric, good to see you. >> nice to be here, thanks. liz: thanks so mu

i don't think read hoffman, or eric schmidt will either.ple i talked to in, and around entertainment feels like a i will have impacted the beginning, and the end. you're coming up with an idea for a movie, or a tv show, you have a couple of words, you toss it into chatgpt and it will spit out a pressey. your filming, you want to film a teaser for a meeting to pitch the idea. you can use a eye to make, instead of people. i don't think you will see studios have a high full screen place. there's still a belief that there is a human for that. a.i. is like a tool, to complete the finished product, rather than replace it. >> there is obviously no stopgap right now. this idea that a i will do the job while they're picketing. >> i have been asked that by few people, and i think it is highly unlikely. >> how long do you think this will last? i know we don't know for sure, but give us your insights? >> at least a few months. most people i talked to think that the studios have, already, basically, pivoted off the rioters. you have two other big guilds

cyberespionage and the importance of outcompeting china in emerging technologies former google ceo eric schmidtms to achieve global dominance through supremacy, the ccp. >> this is my opinion for the rest of our lives we're going to be dealing with this i want us to win >> joining us now is congressman gal galloway welcome to you gentlemen, are you guys like finishing each other's sentences on this? there's no difference, i don't think, there's not a lot of difference between the two sides of the aisle on what the problem is in how to deal with it? is there, congressman, gallagher in. >> i think we have a shared sense of the threat and shared concern about growing economic and technological aggression by the china communist party. some things i think are obvious and areas where we can have bipartisan cooperation i think there's a shared sense that we don't want to be in the business of funding our own destruction and that there needs to be some guardrails on outbound capital flows to china. for companies that trying to beat america in this a.i. race which has profound implications that you hear

now, senator eric schmidt that the misinformation oh, it may be about hunter. well, they knew rudy giuliani, trump's attorney , had a copy of the laptop. of course, it was going to be leaked. now, meanwhile, in very defensive public statement, the biden white house accused republicans of floating an anonymous innuendo and quote, when comes to president biden's personal finances, anybody can take a look. he has offered an unprecedented level of transparency, not quite so in the spirit of unprecedented, transparent, let's say perhaps the white house should call on the fbi to release the document in question. right now, if the whistleblowers allegations are just baseless and politically motivated, attacks, as the white house is claiming, and i don't think that will be a problem. but don't hold your breath. house oversight committee chair colmer has already subpoenaed the document in question, but don't expect the oh so transparent white house to lend a helping hand . in fact, don't expect biden to be transparent in any way, either or honest for that matter. you kn

we know henry kissinger and eric schmidt or a book about the dangers of a.i.. and the possibility of global conflict comes from the fake a.i., or chatgpt. we know that. we have to come up with responsible things, we have to come up with responsible things to make sure people, so we can have a solid social security, a solid health care system. i am looking to find those people who can operate in the middle across the lines, who can say let's look at these problems, let's recognize them and work together to try to fix them. that is what i like about this deal. and i call it transformational, that is how they sell a package. i had to sell a package, turn out what i was selling worked out to be pretty good, but you always have to sell it, right? you have to sell your show, we have to sell things. let's not get too carried away about what all of the impact is about this. >> so the studies that have been done since work requirements were put in, let's put this in the context of 2020, three of the three and a half percent unemployment rate in this country. everybody w

did you happen to read very long and insightful piece by henry kissinger and eric schmidt, the googlefounder, senior and mighty professor, did you read that? >> i know what you 're talking about. it's in this online pile. i apologize. >> i would strongly recommend taking a look. such a big topic. there's a whole focus on it. these great opportunities. henry kissinger still going at it. he turned a hundred or will turn a hundred very soon, incredible mind. he brings some insights that are very chilling to the uses of ai and what it could mean particularly on the national security front. what would be good for you to do a deep dive on this committee, we are trying to figure it out, tech companies saying the best thing since sliced bread, other people saying it is going to doom the world. .. people say it's running the world. putting the tech companies fully in charge don't think that's a good idea either. we really need your guidance and i think it would be good if viewed come back to that topic and take a look at that. it's really it's really well written and pretty scary, to be honest

did you happen to read the very long and insightful piece by henry kissinger and eric schmidt, the googleunder, and a senior mit professor on ai? did you read that? >> i know exactly what you're talking about and it's on my pile, but i have not yet read it so i apologize. >> i would strongly recommend, take a look. i think such a big topic the economist has a whole focus on it today. there's all of these great opportunities, you know, henry kissinger, still going at it, and i think he is a 100, or turning 100 soon and incredible mind. he brings some insights and chilling to the uses of ai and what it could meap mean particularly on the national security front and i think it would be good for you to do a deep dive and then come back. and some are says best thing since sliced bread and others are saying it's going to doom the world, but i think that putting the tech companies fully in charge, i don't think that's a good idea either. so we really need your guy's insight and i think it would be good if you'd come back to the committee classified or unclass on that topic. take a look at that p

. >> we should note on the missouri race that eric schmidt won in 2022 by 13 points, and donald trump2020 there by 15. certainly, a tough hill to climb, even if you have don draper helping out with the ads. gene, let's hear about your column. you looked at ron desantis' would-be campaign, and your thought it might be short lived. tell us about it. >> well, it's just that he has such a thin skin and such a long memory, he holds grudges. that's the opposite of most really good politicians i know who have very short memories and very thick skin. because today's adversary might be tomorrow's ally. but you look at desantis, you look at his crusade against walt disney world. you know, he's fighting to defeat the magic kingdom. against bob iger, good luck. you look at his -- at what he has done in florida in this attempt to not be outflanked on the right. he has gone so far to the right that he's made himself potentially, and i think actually toxic to those suburban women voters that the republican party needs to win back. they lost in 2020, they need to win it back in 2024. you look at the

department, i got a report that he in a hot tub in palo alto with helmut schmidt and this was this was you know, at a critical time as eric was saying. but we we're in the process of trying to implement the famous double track decision trying to get, you know, missiles deployed in europe and and arms control negotiation underway with the soviets and and the germans were in the very middle of this and were critical for. and so here's a guy who parachutes into the state department and he's he's meeting with probably most influential and best informed you know german in the world. and then i remember very shortly and i'll stop i promise right now but it don't scare shortly after after i got into the into the european job, i got a summons to go to the seventh floor and see the secretary and and at time i was the assistant secretary state for european affairs. just, just european. and he said, rick, what's what's going on in the relationship with canada and remember, i tried to deploy in europe. i'm to deal with a pipeline problem and dispute with margaret thatcher and, helmut kohl and my jaw dropped. and i said, mr. secretary

eric schmidt, american technological leadership. dr. many submit serves as ceo and chairman of a small tech company called google and parent company, alphabet. his most recent initiative, however, is a bipartisan, nonprofit initiative with a clear mission to strengthen america's long-term competitiveness. welcome to all of our witnesses. thank you for being here. if you'd please stand and raise your right hand, i will now swear you in. >> do you swear or affirm under penalty of percentage that the testimony you're -- perjury that the testimony you're about to give is true so help you god? 4re9 the record show that the witnesses have answered in the affirmative. ambassador lighthizer, you may begin. >> chairman gallagher, ranking member, members of the committee, i would like to thank you for inviting me to to testify here today. i would also like to thank house leadership for establishing this important committee. and all of you for serving on it. i believe that china is the most dangerous threat that we face as a nation. indeed, it may