joining me now via skype from bahrain is "new york times" reporter eric schmitt. so, eric, what do we know about the details of this operation? >> well, overnight friday's, early morning in yemen, about three dozen special operations forces, including navy, seal team 6, swept into a small village in southern yemen with the object of trying to free luke, the american photojournalists who was being held hostage there. they came in on osprey helicopter, osprey aircraft, and approacheapproached on foot to e compound and got to within 100 yards of the compound, when somehow they were detected by the armed gunmen inside holding the hostages. a gun battle broke out. and before the commandos could get inside the compound, both hostages had been shot, as the militants fled. the commandos hurried to get both00s, luke, and a south african, aboard of aircraft out to the navy ship which had launched the mission. unfortunately, one of the00s died en route. the other died on the ship itself. >> sreenivasan: and this wasn't the first time we tried to rescue mr. somers, right? >> n

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