what did we learn from eric snowden? guest: a lot of things. there were documents that did not get as much attention as the surveillance, the phone surveillance programs that were very telling. we wanted to learn how the nsa has been intersecting its computers around the world with what is called spyware, so that you can monitor them and control those computers. it is classic straightforward hacking. we learned a lot about the systems and the global nature of how the nsa does that. there were blueprints for exploits, which you might think of as cyber weapons that were leaked out as well, published overseas. what we got is a glimpse into how systematic cyber operations have become for the intelligence community and how central hacking is to both the intelligence gathering mission of the nsa but also the mission to go out and try and disrupt and penetrate adversary networks. the united states was responsible for knocking north korea offline, the expertise to do that resides in the nsa. those are the people you would task to execute that mission.

what did we learn from eric snowden? guest: a lot of things. there were documents that did not get as much attention as the surveillance, the phone surveillance programs that were very telling. we wanted to learn how the nsa has been intersecting its computers around the world with what is called spyware, so that you can monitor them and control those computers. it is classic straightforward hacking. we learned a lot about the systems and the global nature of how the nsa does that. there were blueprints for exploits, which you might think of as cyber weapons that were leaked out as well, published overseas. what we got is a glimpse into how systematic cyber operations have become for the intelligence community and how central hacking is to both the intelligence gathering mission of the nsa but also the mission to go out and try and disrupt and penetrate adversary networks. the united states was responsible for knocking north korea offline, the expertise to do that resides in the nsa. those are the people you would task to execute that mission.

snowden gave. >> it would be very interesting to see what happens with david boyce and whether they take legal action and whether that legal action goes anywhere. it's a really interesting topic, ericardener, thank you. >> that's it for "consider this." we'll take you to the most sacred places on earth. and america takes on i.s.i.l, the growing religions in iraq and syria. we'll be joined by the only member of the yazidi group. we'll see you next time. a >> small, medium, large... cluster oysters and white tablecloth half shell oysters. for nearly a century, oysters have been harvested here in drakes estero. seven years ago kevin lunny bought the floundering farm here and turned it into a 1.5 million dollar annual business, but some environmentalists say he has outstayed his welcome and it is time for the farm to stop production. >> but it is fundamentally incompatible with a national park wilderness area to have a commercial, private oyster operation... it just doesn't fit. >> lunny insists he is a responsible steward of the land and exemplifies sustainability. lunny says if the lower court ruling against him stands, the community may gain a quiet estuary, but some of their cultur

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eric efforted the encryption on the data centers. i am curious, did you do that in response to snowden's disclosures? referring to is increasing data, it goes from one google data center to the other google data center. some of you may particularly recall the stories about the collection of data from between those data centers. mentioned, during the aesentation, that was shocking moment that we learned it was happening. >> what was your personal reaction? that personal reaction was it was pre-shocking to receipt -- it was pretty shocking to see this was happening. i know what that front door is, i man that front door. it would have been nice if they had used the legal but -- legal mechanisms that are available. my reaction is, what is this about? it was somewhat confusing. i know leadership in the company was flat on outraged by it. google actually started about a year before, including the data between the data centers. of thisuse they knew particular kind of collection that was going on, but because it was the right thing to go -- to do. you try to secure your data, where are the vulnerability poin

eric mentioned the encryption effort on the data centers. i'm curious, did you do that in response to snowden'sisclosures? >> what i was referring to is that goes from one google data center to the other google data center, and you may recall stories about collection of data from centers.hose data and as eric mentioned during aat presentation that was pretty shocking moment when we learned from the press that that was happening. was your preferred reaction? reactionmy personal shockingit was pretty to see that this was happening. i guess my personal reaction was a front door at google for the government to ask us for data. is,ow what that front door i man that front door, and it would have been nice if they e if nayta from going could use the legal mechanisms that are available through the door. so my reaction was what is this about, it was somewhat confusing. leadership in the company was outraged by it. started about a year before encrypting the data between the data centers, and knew of thishey particular kind of collection but because it was the right thing to do. you look at your network a

eric holder error does not plan to prosecute them as co-conspirators in leaks cases. and that brings us up to date in the travel through the world's. we are familiar enough with the ed snowden case that i don't have to go over the history of it. i would be happy to it everybody wants a quick review. >> we are talking in cases of law and that. most americans think of the people involved in this as either heroes, patriots, or villains and traders. i am sure you have your own opinions of these cases. i would like to go to jean and talk about the first amendment as well. >> i am glad you didn't in the down to one of those. let me take a slightly different tack and follows the history and definitions and this tension that i think has always existed our society between a free press and legitimate national security concerns of the government and foremost, the american public. we saw from the beginning of the republic, even before there was a republican terms of what was being disclosed about the operations of the colony. the reported incident in which there was a direct challenge to a reporter in disclosing the source of information was 1848 when a reporter for the new york herald

contractor edward snowden talks about his disclosure of government surveillance practices and recommendations for privacy protections. ater, executive chair eric schmidt of google discusses data collection by private companies. >> welcome to "newsmakers." with the release of the senate intelligence committee's report on enhanced interrogation techniques of terrorism suspects and c.i.a. chief john brennan's response, lots of discussion in this town and >> he wrote legal opinions that affirmed use of certain tactics. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> he covers washington. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> we are very pleased to welcome our guest, john yoo. he joined the bush administration. thank you for joining us from berkeley, where your teaching now. let me introduce you chart to reporters. eric lichtblou works for the new york times. he is also written two books that deal with the cia, including the most recent "the c."s next door to her next to him is dan lamothe. would you tell us a little bit more about your arguments? >> ok, sure. thanks for the opportunity. i'm sorry to say is biased. a

eric garner. then larry pratt talks about gun rights. bring you the justice for all march in washington, organized by civil rights, labor, and church groups. 11:30 a.m.e live at next, edward snowden talking about government surveillance medicaid oh cato institute conference. then representative mike rogers. then a discussion of reining in surveillance programs. "q&a" political reporters share stories of being on the campaign trail with senator mitch mcconnell. >> this started right after what he saw happen in the primary for rand paul. rand paul beat mcconnell's handpicked guy. he realized, i have to recalibrate everything i know about republican politics in my home state. he started to build this very sophisticated infrastructure, knowing this would be the most difficult race in the campaign. >> they had watched the obama campaign in 2008 and 2012. they watched harry reid's reelection in 2010. would go that this from a 2008 race where he beat democrat roos lunsford, a very tough race. he was going to have the most thorough campaign ever -- >> [indiscernible] alexei he probably got there. >> sunday night at 8 p.m. eastern and pacific on c-span's "q&a." our 10thrk anniversary, we

snowden. he'll be appearing via satellite from an undisclosed location as our live coverage ontinues here on c-span. in the meantime more from the surveillance conference from earlier today. a conversation with eric schmidt who is executive hairman at google. >> thank you all for coming. thank you to our tv audience on c-span. this is an incredibly impressive group of people the cato institute put together today. some of the most august minds in the legal policymaking journalistic circles. so i am very honored to be here and very pleased that dr. schmidt has agreed to find some time for us in his very busy schedule to talk about surveillance. >> thank you guys for having me and this incredibly important conversation. >> great. just so you know i'm going to ask a few questions. about half way through i'm hoping to open up the floor to questions so if there is something you've been dying to ask eric schmidt for many years this is your opportunity. for now, i'll start off here. when "the washington post" first learned that the n.s.a. was tapping the links between data centers for google around the world, some of our reporters showed a diagram of how this worked. your engineers responded with a fusel