company and both myself and my younger sister both perform and my sister also plays the cymbals in the eric strastra. >> is it technical to do the dancers? >> quite a bit. even to learn it many students start when they are seven or eight and it takes about 8-10 years before you are considered ready to do a solo debut. at that point you have learned all the pieces that are required for a soloist. that debut is what we consider to be a beginning. oh after eight years, you only begin to become an zblaurt it's like being a doctor. >> definitely. the greatest thing there is no age whether to perform this. you keep evevolng and some of the best practitioners are in the 60s and 70s. >> julie, have you seen changes in this? >> all the time. and the piece they are doing this could year in the festival is breaking all kinds of boundaries. its collaboration and i've never seen anything like it. it's beautiful. >> i never would have imagined how well the two forms fit together and create a new look how would you describe it. >> it's very percussive and that is what we sought to the highlight in this piece.