but first up judiciary committee member congressman eric swalwell. congressman, thank you for being here tonight. so,. >> of course. >> with regard. >> good evening, martha. >> martha: good to have you. with regard to the timing, you heard the reporting in the open about what nancy pelosi reportedly said to the leadership. that there is no time for any more court proceedings that this vote needs to happen. when do you think that will be? >> >> we put pressure on ourselves to move fairly and to move fast. and i think we have moved fairly fast. and so we will receive the report from the intelligence committee next week and i will leave it to the speaker and the chairs to decide, you know, an exact date. >> martha: do you think it's going to happen before christmas? >> i don't want to put an artificial date on it but there is an urgency to secure upcoming elections, voting starts in iowa and new hampshire within 60 days. and this president on the july 25 call invokes one of his potential political opponents when he asked a foreign government to involve

that's eric swalwell saying that. >> he does not.ber devin nunes, there's nothing that suggests anything improper at all, having looked at call records before, someone would have had to tell his staff to go through hundreds of pages of records and pick out a number that very few people other than the democratic numbers woul mems would know. this is a calculated decision to engage in a mccarthy style drive-by shooting against ranking member nunes who is coincident we had very good days going against chairman schiff. liz: and there's a privilege possibly with rudy giuliani and jay? >> depending on what was produced, yes. >> the new york times and wall street journal reporting that the house intelligence impeachment report says adam schiff put out its erroneous and they got it wrong, they claim rudy giuliani was talking to the omb but the wind be phone number is a general white house switchboard number, who knows who he was talking to in the media asking why the media was talking to rudy giuliani and then indicted him. you see this deba

and then also eric swalwell is also on this committee. so, hopefully, they watched the intelligence committee do, i thought, a very good job of sticking to the facts, and i don't think our side will be frankly helped if we try to go tit for tat with the crazy bomb-throwers on the republican side. >> her words, not mine. let's take a break. she mentioned eric swalwell. he is standing by to talk with us after this. our coverage. we'll have a brief break. we'll continue right after this. k we'll continue right after this. >>> are you aware of yesterday's "daily beast" story reporting the indicted ukrainian parnas has been working with ranking member devin nunes on nunes' overseas investigation? >> i am not aware of that. >> mr. chairman, you've been falsely accused throughout the proceedings by the ranking member as being a quote/unquote fact witness. now, if this story is correct, the ranking member may have actually been projecting, and in fact, he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation.

both sides of "the story" here tonight democratic congressman eric swalwell and devin nunes. trey gowdy here on the big picture in all of this. new polling spells trouble for democrats in 2020. donna brazile responds to the new polls about head to head with president trump and those running. exclusive interview this evening in new york. u.s. ambassador to germany ric grenell is joining me as well. we start tonight with the big story impeachment, democratic congressman eric swalwell member of both the house intel and judiciary committees joins me this evening. ministry can, thank you very much. good to have you with us this evening. >> of course. good evening, martha. >> martha: what do you make of those heated interactions that you are seeing in some of these 31 swing districts and also adam schiff got some backlash in his district as well? >> with it, shows the courage that my colleagues have brought to decision-making process. i have heard republicans accuse democrats, in fact, ranking member doug collins for hours today in the rules committee said all the democrats are doi

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democratic congressman eric swalwell sitting on the jshd and intelligence committees.do you think was accomplished today or hope accomplished today. >> well the american people saw, anderson, serious scholars lay out the president's abuse of power by using his office your taxpayer dollars to ask a foreign government to help him cheat in an election. and we're not helpless to that. in a kingdom you might be helpless. in a dictatorship you might be helpless. but our framers of the constitution gave us the remedy of impeachment. >> and to the point that professor tur canny made and he is respected and not a supporter of the president. he said basically because of how grave a charge impeachment is, you know, why not give the inquiry more time why not at least try to get the additional evidence that's been withheld. >> well and professor turly, perfect world, the president is an honest broker and he would not invoked an upcoming election where the clock is running. and would abide by court rulings. he is neither of those. we have overwhelming evidence right now. and it woul

joining me now, eric swalwell, member of the house judiciary committee.arkup is a washington speak term. congressman, for basically editing a bill before you send it to the floor. what's there to edit? what's there to edit, sir? what -- what -- what words would you like to change? what do you expect to happen here? or do we kind of thing the -- you know, this first draft, maybe there's a period a a semicolon you're going to add and that's about it? >> let's hope that's not what's taking place, chuck. good evening. you're not going to see editing on the part of democrats. we feel comfortable we've made the case. the president abused his office to cheat an election and jeopardized our national security and democracy while doing that. republicans have an opportunity, though, to offer amendments. the president would have an opportunity to also be a part of this inquiry. and he's chosen not to. but it's important that the facts not only be powerful. but the process behind it as far as fairness is powerful, too. >> in an op-ed back in july, you thought two days

joining us now here on set is the eerily prescient congressman eric swalwell.ir, it's good to have you here. >> yeah, same here, thanks for having me back. >> i mean, as you noted in that little bit of sound that i just played and in the report, it's clear and there's no equivocation about the fact that the president doesn't have to have committed a crime in order to be impeached. why is it, therefore, important to spell out that, in your view, and in the committee's view, he did commit crimes? >> well, his conduct, you know, as it relates to abuse of power also matches up with, you know, multiple criminal statutes, and our job as i pointed out, we're to protect the constitution. criminal prosecutors one day may look at what the president has done and we also think it's kind of a circular argument for republic b cans to say he cant charged with a crime so you can't impeach him when the president won't allow his own department of justice to charge him with a crime, but if you want to go through the crimes we believe in his abusing, you know, his office by asking

as eric swalwell said, there is an urgency, right, to prosecute this. and i think we have to break it into three pieces to allow this to be aired out in the way the american people deserve. first as we focus on the crimes. you heard a lot about that from congressman swalwell a few minutes ago. the president broke election laws and cheated in 2016 and got caught. he then obstructed in 2017, 2018. cheated in 2019. got caught. he obstructed again. there's a pattern. we've got to really help the american people understand the severity of what we're dealing with. second, though is that part of what happened is that there were dozens of people involved in this conspiracy to break american election laws, to commit bribery and extort the ukrainian government. they need to be brought to justice, too. we can't just look the other way. i think a process has to be put into place to bring the co-c co-conspiratco-co co-conspirators -- pence and barr and everyone else involved in this. and there's a process in place that we can already build on which is fdny and fbi h

>> it was with eric swalwell asking him about this abrupt decision to end the hearing. here's what he said. he said i don't understand their complaints, the republicans complaints we heard, especially doug collins at that microphone. they think we should vote in the dead of night. they want people to see what we're doing. it's a vote from impeachment. they do not want to have the headline that in the dead of night, late hours, no one watching, they took this historic vote. they want to do this during broad daylight. it's interesting that we've heard for days now republicans complain about the process being too quick. now they're saying it's too slow. we've seen them complain about not having enough say during these hearings and not having enough people watching and engaging and here they're saying we're going to do this in front of everybody, front of the the american people during daylight hours when people are paying attention. why would republicans be against that? >> let me ask devil's advocate. i know you're not their spokesperson, but why does it take your text fr

>> it was with eric swalwell who is a member of the judiciary committee asking him about this abruptecision to end the hearing. here's what he said. he said i don't understand their complaints, the republicans complaints we heard, especially doug collins at that microphone. they think we should vote in the dead of night. we want people to see what we're doing. it's a vote on impeachment. so i think here from eric this real sentiment they do not want to have the headline that in the dead of night, late hours, no one watching, they took this historic vote. they want to do this during broad daylight. it's interesting that we've heard for days now republicans complain about the process being too quick. now they're saying it's too slow. we've seen them complain about not having enough say during these hearings and not having enough people watching and engaging and here they're saying we're going to do this in front of everybody, in front of the american people during daylight hours when people are paying attention and awake. why would republicans be against that? >> let me ask devil's adv

eric swalwell of the east bay tweeted, quote, "it's been a 14- hour plus day of impeachment inquiry debate. tomorrow we will take votes in the light of day for the american people to see." lauren blanchard tells us it was a day of bitter partisan argument. >> reporter: despite repeated pushback from republicans, the two articles of impeachment are expected to be adopted. >> the committee is in recess. >> reporter: a marathon day at the capitol. yet no vote thursday night on the two articles of combeem. abuse of power and obstruction of congress. >> i want the members on both sides of the aisle to think about what has happened over these last two days and to search their consciences before we cast our final votes. >> reporter: a decision which didn't sit well with republicans. >> this is the kangaroo court that we're talking about. >> reporter: with the democratic majority in the committee, the draft articles are expected to be adopted once they vote. following that, it'll head to the house floor for a full vote, likely next week. >> reached out to a foreign power in an attempt to drag them

joining us now democratic congressman eric swalwell of california. he's a key member of both the intelligence and judiciary committees. congressman thanks for joining us. in your lengthy report, 300 pages, it says this and i'll put it up on the screen, the president placed his own personal and political interest above the interest of the united states and sought to undermine the integrity of the u.s. presidential election and endangered u.s. national security. so what do you believe the consequences, congressman, would be of not impeaching the president following that conclusion in your report? >> he gets worse. and, wolf, if we do nothing, we lose our ability to hold any president accountable in this congress and every future congress. but with this president, the fact that this phone call to president zelensky was made the day after bob mueller testified shows how emboldened he could feel that he could abuse his power and we want to show him, one, that he can't do that, and two, actions like this have consequences. >> have you personally decided to

joining me now is eric swalwell on both the house judiciary committee and intelligence committee.ters concerns, in over two hours you'll be in debate over the articles of impeachment. what are you expecting in do you think it will be contentious, i assume. >> we'll lay out that this president abused his office and asked the foreign government to cheat and jeopardized national security and the integrity of our elections and he like anyone who did that should be held accountable. that may come with heated moments, but i think you'll see passion and conviction on our side to hold him to account. >> you heard congresswoman slotkin talking about the flood of calls from both sides about impeachment. your california colleague gil cisneros told cnn there might be a lot of blow back in his district for supporting impeachment. do you worry about how impeachment will affect these vulnerable democrats or colleagues of yours next november? >> well, many of the vulnerable democrats like mr. cisneros and slotkin who served in the military and intelligence community who came forward saying this w

, your fellow california democrat. >> who also went to the university of maryland, eric swalwell did. >> swalwell trivia. why are lawful subpoenas allowed to be ignored without consequence and what steps will the congress take related to the impeachment investigation? >> as you see, when we have issued the subpoenas, the president, they have obtainject and taken it to court. we have won, as i mentioned earlier, at every level in the courts. now we're waiting for some decisions from the supreme court as to whether they're going to take up these cases or not. the deutsche bank case with the president's financial statements, the mazars case, the mcgahn case. article 3 of the nixon impeachment was that he did not respect the subpoenas of congress. so the president in some ways is self-impeaching because he is obstructing justice by not honoring the subpoenas. but that is what is -- this is such an important question, because congress, the system of checks and balances, the oversight that congress has as a check and balance on the executive branch, is manifested in oversight. when that ove

congressman eric swalwell of california. senator schumer told nbc news earlier today he's onboard with speaker pelosi if she decides to delay in sending those articles of impeachment to the senate. he said if the speaker wants to hold onto them, it's fine with us. and he blasted mitch mcconnell on the senate floor for daring to block witnesses with knowledge of the president's conduct from even testifying in the trial. >> is the president's case so weak that none of the president's men can defend him under oath. if the house case is so weak, why is leader mcconnell so afraid of witnesses and documents? i have yet to hear one good argument why less evidence is better than more evidence. >> i'm joined right now by senator chris coons of delaware. thank you, senator, for joining us. what do you make of this back and forth tonight between the speaker of the house and the senate majority leader over whether there will be a senate trial even of the president. it seems like the senate republican leader is saying we really don't wan

>> yes, and the way that it gets fleshed out in the house, i had eric swalwell talking about the length of that debate and how long they're going to go until they get the floor vote down. the question of how substantive that's going to be and how compelling as a public matter, that's potentially going to be important in terms of the way the public views this process. if the senate doesn't pick up what they're going to do, they're part of trial part of this until january, that's aways off and things happen fast. i feel like this is a live, still-evolving issue. rules committee at 11:00 a.m., finally a civilized hour as i can also tape it for you if you need to go later. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks, casey lawrence. >>> history has been marching steadily toward impeachment for the last 90 days, and this week it is sprinting toward impeachment with a vote tomorrow in the rules committee and a vote on the house floor on impeaching the president of the united states. along this road to impeachment we have seen many things that we've never seen before, including the attorney general willia

joining us now is eric swalwell, a democrat on the house judiciary and intelligence committees.im if his work on impeachment will be done after this in a moment. after the action it moves to the senate. chuck schumer released a list of witnesses he would like to see. mick mulvaney, john bolton, and a couple officials who work in omb or for mulvaney robert blair and michael duffey. what's significant about this request and do you think it's smart? >> certainly smart. i believe we have enough to show abuse of power just from the, you know, 17 depositions we took and the 12 public hearing witnesses we had. but if there are gaps in what we know, it's because witnesses like mick mulvaney and john bolton were told by the president to not come in. if the senate could get them and we couldn't, i think that would be dpragreat for the american pe to fill in the blanks because of the president's obstruction. >> mitch mcconnell has suggested or senate republicans have suggested maybe they don't want any witnesses. do you think democrats should be willing to strike a deal saying you give us

>> it was with eric swalwell asking him about this abrupt decision to end the hearing. here's what he said. he said i don't understand their complaints, the republicans complaints we heard, especially doug collins. they think we should vote in the dead of night. we want people to see what we're doing. it's a vote from impeachment. they do not want to have the headline that in the dead of night, late hours, no one watching, they took this historic vote. they want to do this during broad daylight. it's interesting that we've heard for days now republicans complain about the process being too quick. now they're saying it's too slow. we've seen them complain about not having enough say during these hearings and not having enough people watching and engaging and here they're saying we're going to do this in front of everybody, front of the the american people during daylight hours when people are paying attention. why would republicans be against that? >> let me ask devil's advocate. i know you're not their spokesperson, but why does it take your text from eric swalwell to g

eric swalwell. thank you. you on monday of next week. >> sandra: update on that situation this morning. an active shooter situation that came to an end with the shooter dead at naval air station pensacola, florida. we're getting word from one of the area hospitals after we confirmed with the navy two fatalities other than the shooter. as far as the injuries up to 11 injured we just got word from baptist hospital that they've received eight pash frents the shooting. they do not have any conditions on the patients to report at this time. the teams are treating the patients and working with navy personnel to communicate with family members. that's an update from one of the area hospitals. another area hospital took in patients from that shooting as well. we'll have an update for you. we're told to expect an update, a news conference any moment on the ground in pensacola, florida. when it begins we'll bring it to you live. stay tuned and we'll be right back. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to a

joining us now is democratic congressman eric swalwell.tee and the intelligence committee. both your committees that have a role on monday. counsel for both committees will appear and make what i think is meant to be a closing argument, really, laying out the evidence of impeachment. what do you think the key points that will be hit in monday are? >> good morning, john. it's important that the american people get a summation of what we heard from the live witnesses. the key point is this. the president of the united states used the highest office in the land and nearly $400 million in your taxpayer dollars to ask a foreign government to help him cheat an election. the challenge will be for us to relate that to everyday americans so they understand why that affects them. and that's what you'll start to see on monday. >> how much of a role is the phone call? the transcript of the phone call? one thing republicans say is there's no direct evidence here that everyone agrees on. there aren't agreed upon facts and clinton, everyone knew what hap

. >>> i want to bring in congressman eric swalwell, democrat from california, member of the judiciary committee and intelligence committees. congressman, thank you for being with us. >> of course. >> and just in the interest of transparency, it's possible that senator mitch mcconnell is going to be speaking on the senate side. i want to be sure to have a conversation with you and we're going to listen in live to what he has to say, potentially to senator schumer. i've got to get your reaction to rudy giuliani claiming yovanovitch obstructed justice and claims she enabled ukrainian collusion. he says that she perjured herself before your committee. what say you? >> rudy giuliani is the president's lawyer and the president and rudy giuliani cleared and smeared ambassador yovanovitch so that the president could cheat an election using your taxpayer dollars for his personal gain. that's abuse of power and that's why we're voting this week to impeach the president. >> do you believe that the way giuliani is conducting himself is helpful to president trump? >> no, but it also demonstrates t

joining our conversation democratic congressman eric swalwell.essman, what is happening with donald trump's impeachment? >> he wants an immediate trial, but he wants to be assured of the outcome and he wants to be assured that no witnesses will come forward. that's just not how it works in america. there's been a lot of polls, you know, thrown around in the last few weeks, and, you know, impeachment and removal is around 50%. the one that is so striking is that 70% of americans believe that the president should allow the witnesses he is blocking to come forward and testify. that's because they know these witnesses are critical to this investigation. and i think that's a lot of what this is going to center around in the next coming days. >> and that number includes 64% of republicans who would like the president and mitch mcconnell to clear the way for first hand witnesses. could you imagine sort of somebody who's a vulnerable republican, say smrenator gardn or senator collins. how would you like to say i would like to get to acquittal but i can't

. >> congressman eric swalwell in today's first formal impeachment hearing before the house judiciary committee. it has been a long, long day in the judiciary committee, but representatives jayapal and swalwell join us now. thank you both for being here. i'm sure there are lots of places you would both rather be, many of which might involve an easy chair. thanks for making time. >> thank you. >> let me ask you both this first question. it's actually about a little bit of breaking news. cnn is reporting this evening that your committee might be announcing as soon as tonight what comes next. next impeachment hearings maybe as soon as next week. can either of you speak to that at all? >> well, i think what we know is that we will have presentations from the intel committee both the majority and the minority. we'll have the opportunity to come and testify before us, and that should probably be early next week. and then we really have to sit and decide exactly where we're going from there. >> in terms of that presentation from the intel committee, obviously you received the written report.

. >> congressman eric swalwell of california. let me ask you this question. i hear this fatalistic view from democrats. because president trump will likely be acquitted by the senate, what was the point of all of this politically? how do you respond to this? >> we've learned standing up to the president stops his corruption. only once dr. fiona hill and lieutenant colonel vindman went to the lawyers did it put into motion this whistle-blower complaint. we found out what happened and ukraine got the aid. the president got caught and got the aid. if they had not stood up to him, the ukraine would probably still not have the aid and russia would advance on ukraine. the message i take from that, when you stand up to the president and show courage, you can extinguish his corruption. >> a process question. you heard republicans and they still say they deserve their day to be in the driver's seat to call their own witnesses and direct their own line of questioning. why shouldn't they have that? it seems in the interest of fairness, seems like a reasonable thing to d

california congressman eric swalwell serves on the judiciary and intelligence committee and joins me, congressman, thank you very much. >> of course, good afternoon, andrea. >> we had eight hours of hearings yesterday. let's talk about what happened with the speaker today, she was really angry that her faith, her conviction and her motives for impeachment were being called into contention by the reporter, quoting a republican, doug collins. >> i've had an opportunity for the last few years to sit next to her, you know, as the chair of the steering and policy committee every week, i'm on the leadership team, i've seen her assist the process with the intelligence committee and the judiciary committee. and she has been anything but eager to do this. i've seen, you know, a reluctance just because of what it means for the country. but a recognition that the president has taken us here and it's our duty to the constitution to carry out this process. but to suggest that it's anything other than that i think, you know, justly deepens the partisanship here in washington. >> what about the pres

i'm joined by eric swalwell. betsey woodrough swan, ben rhodes, and peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." i'm holding the report here, congressman. is this how it's going to read? i'm asking this dead seriously. what's it going to be in the history books for all-time? this is the report that's going to say why trump faced impeachment, right? >> this report will stand the test of time, chris. it's just a question will my republican colleagues stand the test of courage. >> let me ask you about this rudy giuliani role, the fact that giuliani was on the phone with the omb, that controls the funds to ukraine, what does that tell you? >> rudy giuliani is trump's lawyer. so we proved in our case donald trump is rudy and rudy is donald trump. and they are inp inseparable, but lawyers act on behalf of their clients and almost everyone that knew of this relationship said rudy was asking as trump's guy. and donald trump told them talk to rudy, he's my guy. >> are you surprised as the ranking

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evidence that the preside used his office to ask for howard the chief election california congressman eric swalwell this relates h commtees, yes to ukraine. >>but have got a pretty good sense of the president's. behavior as it relates to using. the office, yoknow it in the russia investigation that we conducted democrats s the evidence he's unctested facts are clear we know that the president the is overwhelming evidence that he has abused. >>this power from republicans thughout the impeachment hearings thus far we've heard a number of different defenses of the president but thugh all of it one theme has remained constant the first cas for his impeachment came for the democrats within days of 2016 electionepublican congressman tom mccntock echo his fellow reblicans arguing democrats have headed out for the president sinc the d he won the election they have been casting around for one pretexafter another fact-fnding of both in and outside the hearing ro lawmakers from both parties are sticking to heir familiar talking points, hoping to win over the public in washington, i'm joe khaleel. >>coming up

we will hear from congressman eric swalwell a little bit later in the hearing. meanwhile, republicans, as you heard a minute ago, continue to slam the process and the speed and defended the president. this hearing will continue, as we mentioned, into tomorrow. that is one members on the judiciary committee can offer various amendments. we are expecting to see a lot of procedural maneuvering during that phase, but with the democrats controlling this committee passage out of the committee is all but certain. >> natalie brand in washington, thanks. this just in the house has passed a historical bill. the annual defense bill. as a provision it'll provide all federal workers with 12 weeks of paid parental leave. that is for the first time ever. the provision was added after a big push by democrats. the $738 billion package also has more than 3% pay raise for military personnel. it is expected to reach the president's desk, but unclear if he will sign off on it. >>> happening right now, president trump and the first lady hosting a hanukkah reception at the white house

including congressman eric swalwell. we will also have to see whether the articles of impeachment are actually withheld before being transmitted to the republican- controlled senate. there is a small group of members and potentially a growing group of members including bay area congresswoman jackie spear who think perhaps the article should be withheld to try to push for a more what democrats would see as a more fair trial in the senate. because right now we are hearing some senate republicans say they would like to see a very short trial. the senate minority leader chuck schumer has called for additional witnesses to testify during a senate trial. including white house officials senate majority leader mcconnell shut that down this week. there are some negotiations underway. among party leaders for what a senate trial could look like. in one potential strategy that the house could use is whether or not they actually delay transmitting the articles of impeachment over to the senate. that is something that the house leader

lasted around seven hours, wrapping after all judiciary committee members, including the bay area's eric swalwell, got a chance to ask their questions of the legal experts called to testify, including the stanford law professor. while this was an academic legal debate, it was one that fell along party lines. >> if what we are talking about is not impeachable, then nothing is unbeatable. >> reporter: the house judiciary committee question four law professors to discuss whether president trump's actions rise to the level of an impeachable offense. >> the president pattern of behavior becomes clear. president trump welcomed foreign interference into the 2016 election. he demanded it for the 2020 election. >> reporter: the three legal experts called by democrats backed impeachment. >> if we cannot impeach a president who abuses his office for personal advantage, we no longer live in a democracy. >> reporter: jonathan turley, a cbs news contributor was the only witness for the republicans. >> this is the narrowest impeachment and history. >> reporter: while he did not excuse the president's behavior,

other members, including the bay area's eric swalwell have said they want to keep this simple in scope. >> we will all be watching very closely. natalie brand life for us on capitol hill. we appreciate it, thank you. >>> still ahead on kpix 5 and streaming on cbsn bay area, the search for a motive behind a deadly shooting at pearl harbor. what we have learned about the sailor who gunned down two people just days before the anniversary of the infamous japanese bombing. california takes action to stop insurers from dropping policies and wildfire zones, the new relief for homeowners. >>> coming up at 5:30, ever imagine you could find everlasting love on bart? a bay area couples incredible story of their commute connection. on the economy, a unique leader. mike bloomberg's created over 400,000 jobs. as president, an opportunity economy that works for us. tax fairness -- where the wealthy pay their fair share. education .. affordable college and high skill vocational training so people can succeed in the new economy. economic security .. lower cost health care and affordable middle-class ho

had to pick a favorite thing, it would be a tie between leggings becoming acceptable as pants, eric swalwell, and honorable mention goes to steve harvey crowning the wrong miss universe. greg: i think if you put it all together, swalwell and leggings farting would probably be an amazing moment. do you like the odd years or even years, tyrus? >> what the hell? what is xexistential? do i like the odd or even numbers? i'm going to go with even. >> me too. greg: i do too. >> i like to be equal. i like an equal question. greg: okay. what is your take on the year, the decade? >> every month of this decade was the end of the world, especially during the trump presidency. breaking news, trump did some [ bleep ] and there's an asteroid coming to get us right now. every week it was the end of democracy. greg: right. >> north korea was going to bomb us. syria was going to bomb us. greg: yeah. >> at the end of every show, you just didn't know. greg: exactly. >> then you would wake up and you would be like that movie sucked. you would go through the anticipation, excited, fired up, going to be the scarie

>> just a note this is the same argument that congressman eric swalwell, and someone came in with a raincoat that's wet and boots that are wet and an umbrella that stripping, can you come to the conclusion that it's raining outside? and and it's the same kind of thing. andy is exactly right on the bias question, on the launching across of our hurricane, and horowitz says we didn't find document documented or -- explanations to why these things were happening along the way. and dianne feinstein goes down the road of what you did you hear from the attorney general bar, and john durham, the u.s. attorney, did they say they had problems? that's the opening of the investigation which may have political bias. did they tell you anything that changed your mind and that's where the democrats are kind of pump coming on it. >> it was in the very first few minutes of chris wallace, that michael horowitz, lindsey graham complained to michael horowitz that the trump campaign never received extensive -- and this ultimately ended in horowitz saying no, the campaign was not notified. >> was there ever a defe

hair ball with this sort of bizarre circumstance where just weeks ago, it was jerry nadler and eric swalwelling things like nothing could be more urgent than this impeachment, swallow called it a crime spree in progress, and noe articles of impeachment like soe demented, nonsanta claus, not delivering the kids to the children. it's strange to observe. >> mark: it's weird, isn't it? the president had a good point in his tweet, because according to jerrold nadler, donald trump is a threat to national security and needs to be removed from office. so why stick it in the bottom drawer and do nothing about it? >> well, it demonstrates that this was a political process from the beginning. we are about to turn over a new year, a new decade, but we continue to see the same politics, just by new means. what democrats have done as they are really cheap impeachment process to any disagreement about the utilization of presidential power, or any disagreement, a president's different type of approach to a particular problem set come all of a sudden becomes impeachable. when they say in their court filings

. >> here's how eric swalwell tried to walk that line. watch this. >> i do think we should send over our best. i'm going to continue to do what helps my constituents and helps the congress hold the president accountable, and poppy, that's truly the speaker's call, and i'll do whatever i'm asked because i really do believe that no one is above the law. i made that case 36 times in a courtroom and i got 36, you know, verdicts that held people accountable. when i was a prosecutor, and i feel like i've been part of a time that makes that case in the congress. >> that's subtle, so subtle. >> perfect. >> obviously the senators are the most important audience. but i also don't think that we can lose sight of the fact that public opinion on -- pelosi's choice in this is really important in who can craft the case that actually does get people to start paying attention again to impeachment and potentially persuade some of those voters in the middle that this really is a stain on his presidency, that might make them think twice before they vote for

perhaps recognizing he wasn't going to change any minds and the committee, california democrat eric swalwellhe camera to make this appeal. >> the present was never interested in fighting corruption in ukraine. it was only interested in weaponizing corruption in ukraine for his own personal benefit. >> republicans took aim at gordon sondland who frequently said he doesn't remember, doesn't know, or isn't sure. >> you're basing impeachment on ambassador sondland's testimony, the guy who presumed there was a quid pro quo, the guy who had to file an addendum to his deposition testimony. >> they don't like him now because he clarified his testimony to say there was definitely a quid pro quo at the heart of this whole thing. now of course they turn on the president's own ambassador. >> pressure is building on 31 moderate democrats who represent districts president trump won in 2016. of them, only two, jeff andrew of new jersey and collin peterson of minnesota voted against the impeachment inquiry. this could have a major impact on their political futures in november. >> the folks who will be regre

if it's a little bit bizarre to hearken back to a few weeks to that when eric swalwell called the presidents conduct a crime spree in process. if nothing was more urgent then nancy pelosi is just sitting on the impeachment articles in the egg that she's waiting to hatch at any moment. >> ed: if there's a crime spree, why have the articles not been sent to the senate so the president can be brought to a trial? >> that's all beasley the contradiction that we can see from the democrats, and it's hard to take fiercely as he pointed out and you had democrats with rachel maddow trying to read the into a dossier that we've been telling the american people was false. the democrats and the allies and immediate were wrong on two fronts. if one, the underlying veracity or truth of the dossier and that steals some sort of sources and that's not what we tell them, wide did not end up in a document? the dossier was used, you have rachel maddow, adam schiff, saying the fbi did nothing wrong to leave followed the pfizer process and we see that dossier was central part. >> ed: one thing for the media to be c

republicans, not all but most republicans not referring to any of the facts of the case, congressman eric swalwell used his time to remind the republicans of the facts of the case. let's listen to what congressman swalwell had to say. >> the facts here are not in dispute. donald trump abused his power by putting his pure personal gain over our country. here are the facts. donald trump directed rudy giuliani to smear his political rival. donald trump fired an anti-corruption ambassador who stood in his way. donald trump withheld $391 million in aid that was essential to ukraine. and donald trump withheld a white house meeting unless ukraine's president would do him a favor. in this scheme donald trump was not an incidental player. he was the central player. and anything we don't know about what donald trump did is donald trump continues to this moment to block us from knowing. donald trump used his office to abuse his power to re-elect himself. >> barbara mcquade, what did you make of that summary of the case against donald trump? >> i thought congressman swalwell did an excellent job of summarizin

. >> gregg: you know, jeffrey eric swalwell who ran for president and dropped out the next day, i thinkow, he was on twitter blaming donald trump for the attack. completely ignoring that donald trump is actually been a very strong supporter of the jewish community as well as israel. >> yes, that is absolutely right. let's remember in 2012, the democratic convention balked for a considerable over recognizing israel and jerusalem as the capital of israel. they didn't want to do it. they finally did it, and it is remarkable turnaround in a party where president harry truman was the president who initially gave american recognition to israel. this is long gone, this is a serious problem for president from the get-go and 100% right. this is very, very dangerous. it's not a subject to be fooling around with. >> gregg: in the meantime my played a clip of chuck todd, meet the press, who received a backlash for dismissing religios beliefs as fairy tales, and pork is not only christian story, but a jewish faith story as well as muslim stories. >> and you don't attack people's faith. you don't cal

eric swalwell by the way did try to defend what schiff was doing. let's watch. >> no member of congress, no stat, and no journalist had their call records subpoenaed. it happened that people who did have their call records subpoenaed were talking to devin nunes. it looks like devin nunes may have been a part of the presidents conspiracy. you are talking to an event indicted songs and you don't end up on call records for that's kind of what happens. >> the american people should be so angry about this. any constituent who called him, any doctor, another lawyer, other journalist. believe me, rudy wasn't just talking to john solomon who was my colleague, he was talking to a number of journalists, even on "the washington post" and at "the new york times." this is ridiculous. look, as long as we get records -- >> laura: this is a shot across the bow. >> libertarians would be up in arms about this pair this is what the church earrings were all about when they talked about the expense of the nsa. >> i don't like the surveillance state. i know we have to ha

way, he's running his own full schiff show and he said there was collusion in plain sight pit or eric swalwell. a great newsroom for the presidency, saying the president acts on russia's behalf. maybe it was hillary who bought the russian dossier. nbc news chief conspiracy theorist braswell area 51 rachel maddow calling trump -- are you hearing this? they are all lying to their teeth. they have smeared, slandered, this parchment for this is who they are, this is what they do. four separate investigations, zero russia collusion. zero. zip. huge blow to impeach the president. they thought mueller would get them to the finish line. instead of apologizing for years and putting the country through hill, they moved to plan b. let's move through a new conspiracy theory. and now the election fast approaching. democrats have nothing to waste now, they can't rely on the american people to do their bidding. take a look. >> we cannot rely on election to solve our problems with the president threatens the very integrity of that election. so with a heavy heart, with clear and mine the duty to our country, i