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. >> joining me now are congressman lauren underwood a democrat from illinois and congressman eric swalwell, democrat from california. thank you for being here. i'm eager to get your thoughts. first, eric, let me start with you, congressman, is the government going to shut down gotomorrow night? >> eric, please. it better not because the people who i represent, people who rely on va benefits, social security benefits, small business loans, just fiwant us to work together anand look out for them, and wh they're seeing right now is this brologarchy, this group of donald trump boys that donald ttrump has brought into government are the ones calling the shots. if elon musk and vivek want to make the government more ke efficient, that's great, my constituents want that more, anthere's no one who hates government waste more in my town than me. if this is the way to cut social security and medicare i promise you my colleagues and i will walk through hot coals and fire to stop t what we're sending tonight is a message and you heard it brilliantly from leader jeffries is that republicans are fightin

eric swalwell, anthony coley, thank you. i appreciate you. >>> we are going to talk about the drones. everybody has questions and theories. trump of weighed in today and lawmakers are demanding more answers. i have the perfect person to talk to about that. my conversation with john kirby is coming up. . if you're living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills. ♪♪ good to go binge-watch. ♪♪ good to go out even later. ♪♪ with cabenuva, there's no pausing for daily hiv pills. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it's two injections from a healthcare provider, as few as 6 times a year. don't take cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients, or taking certain medicines, that may interact. serious side effects include allergic reactions or rash, post-injection reactions, liver problems, and depression. if these occur, get medical help right away. tell your doctor about your medicines or supplements, medical conditions, liver o

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in addition to the two lawmakers we already knew about, adam schiff and eric swalwell. i have to say, the inspector general was very clear today, he did not find this was done out of a political motive, this was done out of career prosecutors and that is actually what was a bit alarming about it. the attorney general at the time, jeff sessions, was not even told that happened, and that raises a lot of separation of powers questions, because when the department of justice is investigating congressional staffers and they are getting their phone records, they might see, for example, that there is a whistleblower from inside the doj, calling the judiciary committee. they are not supposed to see that. so, there is some issues here and there should be some guardrails. there are, now. there is a that wasn't in effect back then that says a prosecutors would have to inform senior officials at the doj before they issue this kind of secret subpoena, by the way. secret, because they send it to apple, or verizon, or whoever, and they accompany it with a gag order saying they cannot

he did it with incredible head wind and adam schiff and eric swalwell fighting him every single day.t they also didn't lift a finger to expose this hoax called russian collusion kash did. kash will be a lot more fairer to his critics than they were to him. >> and obviously, gowdy was very critical of the matt gaetz choice. robert, what do you think so far and how that might go counsel up on the hill? >> you know, bret, i'm supportive of what started in 1976, that the fbi was supposed to be nonpartisan and not loyal to either side and they would have a 10-year term. i like that president trump, when he brought on christopher wray continue with christopher wray. christopher wray has three more years. i think he -- -- he will either resign or be fired. whether kash patel gets the nomination passed, i think anyone should go through the background check and be a real advise and consent program. and if he gets the fifth-plus votes, then he will be in. but, i like what was started in 1976, and i wish we stayed with that concept. >> bret: yeah, guy? >> well, i think a lot of republicans and

we had eric swalwell on in the last hour and he said democrats have pulled us across the finish lineant were not even that significant, just the order of operations in terms of the legislative branch. democrats have saved the day, we are not going to do it again. they are barreling towards a real problem, including the immediate issue, which is that we are entering the peak holiday season and they may shut down the federal government if they don't get their act together by tomorrow night. one of the things that i think is so distressing about this is you have a bunch of millionaires, but the tech breaux and jd vance, elon musk, the world's richest man, donald trump, real estate tycoon and that is being generous, he has a lot of money, they don't understand what it is like to not get a paycheck during the holidays. they don't understand what it is like to fly commercial airlines and deal with tsa agents who aren't being paid and the chaos that ensues when you have the infrastructure of transportation derailed by a nonfunctioning government. and these are the people who ultimately hold

we have democratic congressman eric swalwell with us now. he was one of the lawmakers whose records were obtained. sir, thanks for being with us. sources telling cnn, i should mention it's not mentioned in the report here, but sources tell cnn you were one of two members of congress targeted. do you know why i was a critic of the trump administration, one of the leaders of the investigations into him from the intelligence and judiciary committee. >> and it doesn't surprise me at all that they would so recklessly go after me and my colleague, mr. schiff. >> yeah. and they also targeted kash patel not in the same circles as you. i wonder what you make of them targeting kash patel and you. why target him? clearly he's a trump firebrand, not a critic of the administration. >> so there are about 20 republican staffers and 20 democratic staffers that kash patel was among who were investigated. but only two members of congress. >> and that was mr. schiff. >> all right. i think we lost our connection there to congressman swalwell. we're going to try

joining us now is democratic congressman eric swalwell of california.congressman, thanks so much for making time for us. we appreciate it. what is your sense of it right now? do you agree with that? that assessment coming out of the white house, that yes, there are a lot of these drones. people might be concerned about them, but they don't pose a threat. >> well, i think this should have come a lot sooner. >> frankly, jim, the american people are trusting people and they want to believe the best in their government. but when it seems like they're not getting the complete picture, that's when, you know, speculation, misinformation and disinformation can fill a void. so if these are airplanes, helicopters, law enforcement, drones and personal commercial drones, that's great. just tell the american people that. and i think the failure here has led to all of this speculation. one other issue, and i'm working with my republican and democratic colleagues on this, is that if there are drones that pose a threat to public safety or national security, law enforce

congresswoman, in the last hour we had your colleague on homeland security committee congressman eric swalwell us and asked if you have received a classified briefing and he said you had not and anticipated that would come on monday when you returned to the hill. what questions will you have, specifically as you attempt to assess whether or not hts is moderating as they say they are. >> yeah, i think it is going to be important for us to get a briefing on what knew and when we knew it. who the leadership is and what their backgrounds are. it is important for us to unpack this so that we are engaging with as much intelligence as possible. and, again, looking at how the congress can bolster the work that has to come out of the executive branch in order to make sure that there is stability going forward. so it is challenging. there is no doubt about it. but that is our role in the world and i think that we need to maintain that integrity. >> congresswoman, let' bring the questions closer to home, a little bit more in your backyard. you are prepared to assume the leadership of the black caucus as

>> joining me now are congressman lauren underwood, a democrat from illinois and congressman eric swalwell. thank you for being here. i'm eager to get your thoughts on a lot of this. first eric, let me start with you. is the government going to shut down tomorrow might? >> eric, please. it better not because the people i represent who rely on va benefits, social security benefits, small business loans, just want us to work together and look out for them. and what they are seeing now is this broligarchy. this group of billionaire boys donald trump has brought in to government are the ones who are calling the shots. and you know what? if elon musk and vivek want to make the government more efficient, that's great. my constituents want that as well. no one hates goth hates government waste in my town more than me but if is a way to cut social security and medicare, my colleagues will walk through hot coals and fire to stop it. and so what we are sending tonight is the message and you heard it brilliantly from leader hakeem jeffries. republicans are fighting for the rich. we are for the rest.

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i truly appreciate people like eric swalwell standing tall. they are standing tall. lot of people out there that are afraid right now. i believe with donald trump's rhetoric why shouldn't they be? they should take that serious. i think that is very disingenuous to dismiss anybody's concern about being afraid about what he might do for retribution or revenge. we need to take that seriously. >> i want to get on what this looks like with both of you. i have to sneak in a break. can you stick around? >> yeah. >> we will all be right back. r you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean. not spreadsheets... you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. our matching platform lets you spend less time searching and more time connecting with candidates. visit indeed.com/hire ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ woah, limu! we're in a parade. everyone customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. customize and sa— (balloon doug pops & deflates) and then i wake up. and you have this dream every night? , evernight! hmm... i see. (limu squawks) only pay for what

adam schiff and eric swalwell. department would have to be notified if something like that happened, but the ig found that later under bill barr, the policies were violated when it grabbed up the same from reporters at "the new york times" and "washington post." there's now a policy in place that says that can't happen anymore. the doj will not subpoena records except in emergency circumstances. but that's just a policy. that can be rolled back by the trump attorney general. that's the real warning not here that this report the finding. >> who was the gentleman when it first started? >> jeff sessions, but he was recused. he was not found to have been involved. that's the bizarre thing about this. the subpoenas to the members of congress and staffers were done by line prosecutors, sort of the work a day mechanisms of the justice department without real consideration that this is a separate branch of government. they could have whistleblowers calling them about the department of justice and maybe the doj shouldn't ha

all right out front now, democratic congressman eric swalwell. all right. so you you voted for this bill. do you think it was better than the original? >> i did. >> no, but my prerogative was to make sure that the hard working employee who serves our veterans or keeps our airports safe, you know, with the tsa, or is monitoring air traffic as an air traffic controller that they get paid for the work that they do. >> this wasn't perfect. this was completely unnecessary, sarah. and what concerns me is that house republicans, you know, they have like a 5 or 6 seat margin right now. and they allowed musk to completely own them. what's going to happen when their margins narrow in two weeks and they're not going to be able to really lose anyone on their side. and so i just worry that we're descending into chaos here and whatever they thought the message was from this past election, this isn't it. people wanted lower costs, wanted more security at the border, lower crime for us to be strong in the world. and this this wasn't it. to to put people in so much fear abo

. >> i mean, we've previously heard from adam schiff and from eric swalwell, two representatives. schiff is about to be a senator of california, and we had heard them publicly discuss that they had been notified by their providers, by their service providers, that their records had been seized by the justice department earlier. now, this is a set of leak investigations that happened beginning in 2017, went for about 2 to 3 years. and so, again, we'd heard from those two members what we did not know, pam, is that there were 43 staff, both democrats and republicans. as a matter of fact, there were about 20 republicans and 2020 or so democrats who were whose records were seized. and among those was kash patel, who was at the time a staffer for devin nunes, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. now, one of the things that this report says, that there was no indication that partisan politics played a role in the in the targeting of these people. but a key part of these, non of these of these investigations of these tactics, right to seize these records is that the justice d

as the action of our nation's chief executive unwise other others, like democratic congressman eric swalwell, are defending biden saying, and i'm quoting him now, if you defended the 34 count felon who committed sexual assault, stole national security documents and tried running a coup in on his country, you can sit out the hunter biden pardon discussion so what is the split? split among democrats say to you? >> i'm not surprised that people are i think some republicans would say even joe manchin who was independent, recently, said he's a father. he would do that. >> i think the rub is that he said he wouldn't, and he said he wouldn't. so many times i think he should have said from the beginning, if hunter is convicted, would i pardon him? yes. and i think the american people would accept that because for so long, when hunter was facing criminal charges, people understood why his father was standing by him because that's what a father does, is they stand by their son. i understand democrats might be split on this. i don't know if it will be the biggest blemish on joe biden's tenure, because

eric swalwell is putting together his own deep state sleeper cell to the agents that the fbi and the doj prosecutors. >> i say this i was a prosecutor once. you know, i had an oath to upkeep to the constitution and to the court. and you're not helpless. you do not have to follow illegal orders. >> the fbi let swalwell off the hook for sleeping with a chinese spy. so he's got to be a good little boy with the amount of dirt they have on him over at langley. they're getting a little antsy to rfk jr. s lobbying trump to put his daughter in law at the cia. he thinks the agency assassinated his uncle and probably his dad, and wants to get to the bottom of it. and remember, trump promised he'd release the jfk files. the government's been abusing its power for decades. we're old enough to know the truth. some democrats are saying, count me in, john fetterman just joined truth social. his first post railing against the deep state for weaponization of the judiciary, said the cases against trump were bs. over on the republican side, most of them are on board to, i think all of trump's nominees

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